# \[ARC\] Semiosis **URL:** \ **Category:** Intergalactic Summit\ **Created:** [March 20, 2019, 8:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-semiosis/147507 "2019-03-20T20:22:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 35
**Author:** ![Taloris\_Aldercain](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/taloris_aldercain/32/317529_2.png) [@Taloris\_Aldercain](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Taloris_Aldercain)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2019, 6:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-semiosis/147507/687 "2019-04-30T18:01:42Z")
As Anninen mentioned previously, it very much looks as though it’s something to weaponize a sun which was my concern when we first received the survey data. The only other thing I could possibly imagine that being used for, which is more unlikely at this point, is three of those being used as a giant abyssal gate. Regardless, I think I’m going to go assume worst case scenario and try to get some supplies and transport ships ready. Just because. Actually I just thought of something. Where would their destination even be, if they were bringing that ship to New Eden with an already in-use star powering it? ---
**Author:** ![dfase\_Anninen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dfase_anninen/32/131710_2.png) [@dfase\_Anninen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/dfase_Anninen)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2019, 6:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-semiosis/147507/688 "2019-04-30T18:13:18Z")
The name of the ship is an ancient legend about the hidden city. The Invisible Town. Judging by the history, it could be the Talocans who were invaded by those whom we know as Drifter. And they went to the Abyss. Apparently this is a military analogue of the citadel. I found a star ( Astabih, Fovihi - Derelik, B0 - F6 VI, V) with the following description Stars of this type generally show strong non-ionized helium lines and some have a chemistry that results in very strong lines, leading to the designation ‘helium-strong’. It turns out that the conditions are more suitable - В0 ---
**Author:** ![Rose\_Valora](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rose_valora/32/131888_2.png) [@Rose\_Valora](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rose_Valora)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2019, 6:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-semiosis/147507/689 "2019-04-30T18:13:36Z")
Well in order to guess their destination we need to know what they want to achieve. Do they need a new home? Are they trying to take the fight to the Drifter hives? Or maybe they feel like stomping over capsuleers because we invaded their personal space one too many times. ---
**Author:** ![Rhoxy\_Runekin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rhoxy_runekin/32/415798_2.png) [@Rhoxy\_Runekin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rhoxy_Runekin)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2019, 6:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-semiosis/147507/690 "2019-04-30T18:32:31Z")
Porevitium wouldseem to me to mean “surface cohesion” the way it’s measured in stability. Like a containment field. Pore being small surface holes, and Vitium being blemishes. Kind-of makes me think of the stars’ surfaces, a measurement of “sunspots” perhaps? ---
**Author:** ![Taloris\_Aldercain](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/taloris_aldercain/32/317529_2.png) [@Taloris\_Aldercain](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Taloris_Aldercain)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2019, 6:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-semiosis/147507/691 "2019-04-30T18:32:50Z")
The old “we are declaring war on you, and showing you just how screwed you are when we’re done preparing?” At least they gave us time to sit around and not get ready if that were the case. I think I need to go have some tea or… something. ---
**Author:** ![Aiden\_Vayle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiden_vayle/32/208691_2.png) [@Aiden\_Vayle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiden_Vayle)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2019, 6:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-semiosis/147507/692 "2019-04-30T18:40:01Z")
> [@Evi\_Polevhia](#): > > As if they held position over a star and used the sun to power part of their weapons or other systems? Am I the only one who got an image in my mind of a Dreadnought entering Siege Mode… except it was this Super-Titanic monstrosity? I just hope we can figure out where this thing will be emerging from the Abyss. Even if it’s targeting the Drifters… we need eyes on this thing when it goes into action. ---
**Author:** ![Gosakumori\_Noh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gosakumori_noh/32/308623_2.png) [@Gosakumori\_Noh](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gosakumori_Noh)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2019, 6:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-semiosis/147507/693 "2019-04-30T18:44:31Z")
The audio is some version of the “We are the Zorya” at different speeds. It is painful. There may be new information in it somewhere, but ouch. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2019, 6:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-semiosis/147507/694 "2019-04-30T18:45:17Z")
As others have said, that looks more like engineering reports. Power conduits Singularity power source. Entropic weapons systems. Station-keeping thrusters or maybe warp drive. > [@Makoto\_Priano](#): > > Those are the stories, indeed. I think the only instance of a Jovian-style mothership being deployed is Vak’atioth. What I’m thinking is: There’s been a kind of ‘is it a ship or a station? Can those really be engines?’ A lot of the ‘it’s a station’ thinking comes because Uriel’s size comparisons use our modern titans. The original round of titans and the Emperor Ship were on the scale of the worldships. So this looks _about_ right for those. > [@dfase\_Anninen](#): > > Judging by the history, it could be the Talocans who were invaded by those whom we know as Drifter. And they went to the Abyss. From what we know of the Talocan, Second Empire Jovians attacking them would be about like a gnat attacking a titan. > [@Aiden\_Vayle](#): > > we need eyes on this thing when it goes into action. I have a feeling we’ll know where it… they? show up. ---
**Author:** ![Makoto\_Priano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makoto_priano/32/383919_2.png) [@Makoto\_Priano](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makoto_Priano)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2019, 6:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-semiosis/147507/695 "2019-04-30T18:54:44Z")
Increasingly, my take is ‘why not both?’ so far the station-vs-ship question is concerned. It’s certainly large enough to fill the role of a station even if it’s mobile, after all. ---
**Author:** ![Aiden\_Vayle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiden_vayle/32/208691_2.png) [@Aiden\_Vayle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiden_Vayle)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2019, 7:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-semiosis/147507/696 "2019-04-30T19:01:33Z")
Indeed… If they want to send ships into New Eden or Anoikis (I’m assuming New Eden, since the Xordazh isn’t going to fit through a wormhole of any size we’ve seen), they’ll need a forward operating base. Preferably something that can move if it’s in serious danger, and since the Abyss can be accessed from anywhere in New Eden, that’s not an issue. So… a mobile forward operating base. I think we’re looking at it. ---
**Author:** ![Rhoxy\_Runekin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rhoxy_runekin/32/415798_2.png) [@Rhoxy\_Runekin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rhoxy_Runekin)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2019, 7:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-semiosis/147507/697 "2019-04-30T19:21:38Z")
One has to wonder, what kind of focusing key it would take to open a passage into the abyss large enough for a full station! Maybe they have some way of using multiple keys at once? Do you really think they’ll land in New Eden? ---
**Author:** ![Aiden\_Vayle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiden_vayle/32/208691_2.png) [@Aiden\_Vayle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiden_Vayle)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2019, 7:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-semiosis/147507/698 "2019-04-30T19:24:34Z")
I think New Eden’s Jump-Gate network makes it more easily traversible than Anoikis, so if they’re going anywhere, this is the better place to go. ---
**Author:** ![Rhoxy\_Runekin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rhoxy_runekin/32/415798_2.png) [@Rhoxy\_Runekin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rhoxy_Runekin)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2019, 7:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-semiosis/147507/699 "2019-04-30T19:25:31Z")
Forgive me, I was thinking of the New Eden system. ---
**Author:** ![Annisir\_Kaugan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/annisir_kaugan/32/388372_2.png) [@Annisir\_Kaugan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Annisir_Kaugan)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2019, 7:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-semiosis/147507/700 "2019-04-30T19:29:07Z")
Looking at the ship and what we know of it, it is being prepped so it makes its own gates. From what we can glean it may be that the Triglavians live on ‘the other side of Anoikis’ for want of a better term. ---
**Author:** ![Aiden\_Vayle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiden_vayle/32/208691_2.png) [@Aiden\_Vayle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiden_Vayle)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2019, 7:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-semiosis/147507/701 "2019-04-30T19:35:51Z")
Maybe not “The other side”… but a different side, nonetheless. Adjacent to New Eden and Anoikis both, in some ways. ---
**Author:** ![Gosakumori\_Noh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gosakumori_noh/32/308623_2.png) [@Gosakumori\_Noh](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gosakumori_Noh)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2019, 8:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-semiosis/147507/702 "2019-04-30T20:59:42Z")
It does not become particularly intelligible, but here is a pass at the audio: [Pass At Xordazh Reveal Audio](https://youtu.be/BAN5XwY9u8o) (have volume setting at something moderate) It has been slowed and equalized up the yan jung in an attempt to make listening to it not so awful. Warning: it is still painful. “We are the Zorya collective” is pretty clear. There is also the line about “we are the emanations of” … but the clades sound a bit different. Some of the sections sound reversed, but when I reversed them it wasn’t any clearer. I suspect that different segments are also at slightly different speeds. There is a normal speed speech about “of honor and” … stuff. The slowing and equalizing obliterated that. I think we have two transmissions that have been garbled together. The “of honor” speech does not sound like a Zoryan Accent to me. If anything, it sounds like a Hethian Accent. Is Sansha rallying the troops? For some inexplicable reason, I am unable to type Sansha with the “h” anymore. Addendum: cancel “emanations” - I was projecting off “we are.” Yaaar attuned my ear more to “looking for.” I believe at 1:00 we get “we are looking for the…” and some noise which my subjective bias makes “star of all…” or “start of alll…” ---
**Author:** ![Taloris\_Aldercain](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/taloris_aldercain/32/317529_2.png) [@Taloris\_Aldercain](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Taloris_Aldercain)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2019, 9:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-semiosis/147507/703 "2019-04-30T21:15:27Z")
Also been having issues with trying to clean up the noise and isolate any vocal audio, though this is something I have no experience with. I feel like my ears will give out if I try at this any longer though. ---
**Author:** ![Aiden\_Vayle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiden_vayle/32/208691_2.png) [@Aiden\_Vayle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiden_Vayle)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2019, 9:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-semiosis/147507/704 "2019-04-30T21:19:02Z")
Sadly, this isn’t the sort of audio engineering where my experience lies. I’m curious to see what’s revealed when someone manages to clean things better, though. “We are the emanations of”, by the way… I don’t hear it, but maybe that’s just me. ---
**Author:** ![Yaaar\_s\_Revenge](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yaaar_s_revenge/32/290517_2.png) [@Yaaar\_s\_Revenge](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yaaar_s_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2019, 9:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-semiosis/147507/705 "2019-04-30T21:19:33Z")
At around 17 seconds after audio clearing I managed to distinguish “Looking…for us” very clearly. I can link the cleaned up audio if you want to hear for yourself (Dropbox audio not working for some reason). ---
**Author:** ![Aiden\_Vayle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiden_vayle/32/208691_2.png) [@Aiden\_Vayle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiden_Vayle)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2019, 9:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-semiosis/147507/706 "2019-04-30T21:22:14Z")
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