# \[ARC\] Semiosis

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-semiosis/147507>\
**Category:** Intergalactic Summit\
**Created:** [March 20, 2019, 8:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-semiosis/147507 "2019-03-20T20:22:38Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![dfase\_Anninen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dfase_anninen/32/131710_2.png) [@dfase\_Anninen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/dfase_Anninen)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2019, 7:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-semiosis/147507/914 "2019-05-09T19:11:38Z")

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HFN3 says about the entosis of multibody tracking cladepylon. Has anyone tried entosis in the abyss?

> Paramount Technical Troika of Gromovi Subclade of Perun Clade reported to the Convocation of Triglav Outside the Struggle the entosis and corruption of multibody tracking cladepylon

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**Author:** ![Uriel\_Paradisi\_Anteovnuecci](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_paradisi_anteovnuecci/32/388691_2.png) [@Uriel\_Paradisi\_Anteovnuecci](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_Paradisi_Anteovnuecci)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2019, 7:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-semiosis/147507/915 "2019-05-09T19:21:20Z")

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The Trigs use “entosis” in their syntax to denote penetration of an external thing a into thing b - our"entosis links" perform such an action with an infomorph link, but the datastream you’re talking about is in fact describing Nation forces boarding a clacepylon.

That’s not to say we haven’t tried entosis extensively, however 🙂

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**Author:** ![dfase\_Anninen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dfase_anninen/32/131710_2.png) [@dfase\_Anninen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/dfase_Anninen)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2019, 7:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-semiosis/147507/916 "2019-05-09T19:23:01Z")

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> [@Uriel\_Paradisi\_Anteovnuecci](#):
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> That’s not to say we haven’t tried entosis extensively, however

And the entosis gave nothing. I’m right? In general, it is a pity that entosis works only with observatories.

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**Author:** ![Uriel\_Paradisi\_Anteovnuecci](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_paradisi_anteovnuecci/32/388691_2.png) [@Uriel\_Paradisi\_Anteovnuecci](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_Paradisi_Anteovnuecci)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2019, 7:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-semiosis/147507/917 "2019-05-09T19:23:45Z")

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Sadly, yeah - we’ll see if it comes into play any time in the future~

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**Author:** ![Annisir\_Kaugan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/annisir_kaugan/32/388372_2.png) [@Annisir\_Kaugan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Annisir_Kaugan)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2019, 7:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-semiosis/147507/918 "2019-05-09T19:27:46Z")

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I think if you can get close enough, its been entosised, and we still try, just in case.

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**Author:** ![Aiden\_Vayle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiden_vayle/32/208691_2.png) [@Aiden\_Vayle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiden_Vayle)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2019, 7:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-semiosis/147507/919 "2019-05-09T19:28:25Z")

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Well, if we do see the Xordazh come to Eden, let’s see what an Entosis Link can get out of it.

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**Author:** ![Annisir\_Kaugan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/annisir_kaugan/32/388372_2.png) [@Annisir\_Kaugan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Annisir_Kaugan)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2019, 7:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-semiosis/147507/920 "2019-05-09T19:29:05Z")

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I’ve even entosised Uriel when he wasn’t looking, in case, for reasons.

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**Author:** ![Evi\_Polevhia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/evi_polevhia/32/501296_2.png) [@Evi\_Polevhia](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Evi_Polevhia)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2019, 9:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-semiosis/147507/921 "2019-05-09T21:35:57Z")

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Outside of the proving conduit, hmm?

I do hope they find goodies on par with Prosper Vault’s riches.

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**Author:** ![Siegfried\_Tahl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/siegfried_tahl/32/377209_2.png) [@Siegfried\_Tahl](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Siegfried_Tahl)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 9:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-semiosis/147507/922 "2019-05-11T09:57:31Z")

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> [@Valerie\_Valate](#):
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> If the Triglavians invade, we shall solve a great mystery:
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> What kind of trousers they wear with those bioadaptive coats.

> **Bioadaptive Full Suit**
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> ![51794402_540214696469150_6447606002585379405_n](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/8/48cf7063aace779ca368ee1efec637a75cc5dac9.jpeg)
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> Three stripes - Tri-glavian! How very becoming!

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**Author:** ![Valerie\_Valate](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/valerie_valate/32/386231_2.png) [@Valerie\_Valate](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Valerie_Valate)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 11:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-semiosis/147507/923 "2019-05-11T23:30:35Z")

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> [@Siegfried\_Tahl](#):
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> > [@Valerie\_Valate](#):
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> > If the Triglavians invade, we shall solve a great mystery:
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> > What kind of trousers they wear with those bioadaptive coats.
> 
> > **Bioadaptive Full Suit**
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> > ![51794402_540214696469150_6447606002585379405_n](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/8/48cf7063aace779ca368ee1efec637a75cc5dac9.jpeg)
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> > Three stripes - Tri-glavian! How very becoming!

Well that’s convincing.

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**Author:** ![Baron\_Redwolfe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/baron_redwolfe/32/474918_2.png) [@Baron\_Redwolfe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Baron_Redwolfe)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2019, 7:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-semiosis/147507/924 "2019-05-15T19:11:46Z")

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If they are Controlling the Rouge Drones, then wouldn’t that no longer make them Rouge? I assume you mean they have worked out a deal that says they are friends and not enemies to Rouge Drones, which would imply that while allied to them, they are not permitted to use Drones as that might be considered offensive to the Rouges. It would be like a free man working next to a guy who has his brother as a slave to fight for him.

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**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2019, 12:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-semiosis/147507/925 "2019-05-16T00:18:53Z")

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> [@Baron\_Redwolfe](#):
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> If they are Controlling the Rouge Drones, then wouldn’t that no longer make them Rouge?

Who controls them has nothing to do with what color they are. Also, they’re ‘rogue’ in the eyes of CONCORD, because they’re autonomous… even if they’re taking orders, the ability to decide not to is something CONCORD doesn’t like.

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**Author:** ![Siegfried\_Tahl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/siegfried_tahl/32/377209_2.png) [@Siegfried\_Tahl](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Siegfried_Tahl)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2019, 2:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-semiosis/147507/926 "2019-05-16T02:38:41Z")

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Sentience is a step in evolutionary process. Nobody ever assessed levels of sentince of Rogue Drones, they very well may be superior in some ways to us.

They are clearly self aware, able to communicate in human language. Their communications are more intelligent than what we have with Triglavians so far.

Comparing them to combat drones may be like comparing human or capsuleer to a bacteria, which is inappropriate comparison in my opinion. Combat drones’s control systems only have traces of resemblance with any primitive nervous systems, let alone a thinking mind. I cannot imagine what it took for Hiveminds to emerge.

“Enslaved” is too strong of a term here. I think details of Rogue Drones relations with Drifters and Triglavians might turn out very surprising.

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**Author:** ![Valerie\_Valate](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/valerie_valate/32/386231_2.png) [@Valerie\_Valate](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Valerie_Valate)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2019, 5:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-semiosis/147507/927 "2019-05-16T05:08:34Z")

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The characteristics of rogue drone hives vary considerably.  
Some, particularly those whose ancestry is primarily the Gallente drone-human interface units, are very communicative and can hold a conversation quite well.  
Other hives derive from drone control systems that were never designed to interact directly with humans, which makes communication with them difficult.

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**Author:** ![dfase\_Anninen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dfase_anninen/32/131710_2.png) [@dfase\_Anninen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/dfase_Anninen)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2019, 2:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-semiosis/147507/928 "2019-05-16T14:41:34Z")

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Veles clada

[https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/fiction/eveonline/Triglavian/G45acgr.mp4](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/fiction/eveonline/Triglavian/G45acgr.mp4)

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**Author:** ![Makoto\_Priano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makoto_priano/32/383919_2.png) [@Makoto\_Priano](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makoto_Priano)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2019, 2:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-semiosis/147507/929 "2019-05-16T14:51:28Z")

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Indeed. DIRECTIVE THUNDER, from Veles, direct link [here](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/fiction/eveonline/Triglavian/G45acgr.mp4).

Translation’s complete and will be uploaded momentarily.

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**Author:** ![Annisir\_Kaugan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/annisir_kaugan/32/388372_2.png) [@Annisir\_Kaugan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Annisir_Kaugan)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2019, 3:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-semiosis/147507/930 "2019-05-16T15:23:42Z")

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Translation complete

> RElSRUNUSVZFIFRIVU5ERVI - DIRECTIVE THUNDER
> 
> RAZNABORG 9-TTC-29

> DAZH CAT: V-I

> THERMOKINESIS: 5.7  
> BELO-CHERNO SCALE: 0.31  
> IMMANENCE: WANE  
> PROTIUM TRANSITION: WEAK  
> POREVITIUM TRACE: FAINT STABLE  
> LIMINAL BOUNDARY: 661  
> PROFOUND MATTER: 1.591

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**Author:** ![dfase\_Anninen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dfase_anninen/32/131710_2.png) [@dfase\_Anninen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/dfase_Anninen)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2019, 7:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-semiosis/147507/931 "2019-05-16T19:03:25Z")

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The station is definitely Amarr. It may be Shastal. There is a City of God. But visually, the system is not similar.  
Amarr Civil Service - they have stations like the one in the video

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**Author:** ![Echelon\_Moussou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/echelon_moussou/32/371617_2.png) [@Echelon\_Moussou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Echelon_Moussou)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2019, 3:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-semiosis/147507/932 "2019-05-17T15:35:00Z")

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[http://games.chruker.dk/eve\_online/item.php?type\_id=1926](http://games.chruker.dk/eve_online/item.php?type_id=1926)

this is the station. I’ll try find some way to scrape which systems contain one (or more)

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**Author:** ![Makoto\_Priano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makoto_priano/32/383919_2.png) [@Makoto\_Priano](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makoto_Priano)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2019, 5:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-semiosis/147507/933 "2019-05-17T17:25:12Z")

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Hello, pilots!

Another mail just went out from Svarog Clade, RElSRUNUSVZFIExJR0hUTklORw, [Directive Lightning.](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/fiction/eveonline/Triglavian/maer45va.mp4)

The format’s similar to the other survey series mail.

Transliteration of key points is as follows:

> RAZNABORG 9-TTC-27

> DAZH CAT IV

> Analyzing  
> THERMOKINESIS: 7.0  
> BELO-CHERNO SCALE: 0.79  
> IMMANENCE: PURE  
> PROTIUM TRANSITION: MEDIUM  
> POREVITIUM TRACE: WEAK STABLE  
> LIMINAL BOUNDARY: 869  
> PROFOUND MATTER: 2,782

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