# \[ARC\] Semiosis

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-semiosis/147507>\
**Category:** Intergalactic Summit\
**Created:** [March 20, 2019, 8:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-semiosis/147507 "2019-03-20T20:22:38Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Echelon\_Moussou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/echelon_moussou/32/371617_2.png) [@Echelon\_Moussou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Echelon_Moussou)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2019, 5:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-semiosis/147507/934 "2019-05-17T17:47:20Z")

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Hello

Here is a pastebin of all systems containing the station as seen in the triglavian video, which I judged to be this one. [http://games.chruker.dk/eve\_online/item.php?type\_id=1926](http://games.chruker.dk/eve_online/item.php?type_id=1926)

[https://pastebin.com/2dmuehzM](https://pastebin.com/2dmuehzM)

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**Author:** ![Gosakumori\_Noh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gosakumori_noh/32/308623_2.png) [@Gosakumori\_Noh](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gosakumori_Noh)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2019, 5:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-semiosis/147507/935 "2019-05-17T17:51:26Z")

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Am I mistaken in believing that the star system in both transmissions is the same, with same triangular glyph captions, while the right panel differs? That seems rather odd.

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**Author:** ![Siegfried\_Tahl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/siegfried_tahl/32/377209_2.png) [@Siegfried\_Tahl](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Siegfried_Tahl)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2019, 5:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-semiosis/147507/936 "2019-05-17T17:55:08Z")

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I think I know what they are doing!.. they are triangulating!

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**Author:** ![Gosakumori\_Noh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gosakumori_noh/32/308623_2.png) [@Gosakumori\_Noh](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gosakumori_Noh)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2019, 6:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-semiosis/147507/937 "2019-05-17T18:03:06Z")

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Triangulation has come up a few times. It seems like a reasonable proposition. As far as I am concerned there is only one thing in our Cluster worth triangulating for, and that is the EVE Gate. Which would fit nicely with “the star for all Mankind.” However, perhaps the Triglavians are triangulating for whichever rock they first settled. Nostalgia, or something.

What is that bug in the second video? Is that some new thing? It looks like someone shaved a Nation frigate.

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**Author:** ![Annisir\_Kaugan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/annisir_kaugan/32/388372_2.png) [@Annisir\_Kaugan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Annisir_Kaugan)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2019, 6:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-semiosis/147507/938 "2019-05-17T18:05:01Z")

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Sansha Succubus

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**Author:** ![Gosakumori\_Noh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gosakumori_noh/32/308623_2.png) [@Gosakumori\_Noh](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gosakumori_Noh)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2019, 6:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-semiosis/147507/939 "2019-05-17T18:07:38Z")

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That would be the frigate that I thought got shaved. I thought there were more spikes. But if Nation is roaming the systems, that might narrow down Echelon’s list.

Let’s see: Derelik, Devoid, Domain, and Tash-Murkon.

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**Author:** ![Echelon\_Moussou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/echelon_moussou/32/371617_2.png) [@Echelon\_Moussou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Echelon_Moussou)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2019, 6:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-semiosis/147507/940 "2019-05-17T18:31:52Z")

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yeah unfortunately I really don’t see an easy way to write code for that. sorry

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**Author:** ![dfase\_Anninen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dfase_anninen/32/131710_2.png) [@dfase\_Anninen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/dfase_Anninen)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2019, 6:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-semiosis/147507/941 "2019-05-17T18:35:04Z")

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Is it possible to make a selection by star class?

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**Author:** ![Echelon\_Moussou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/echelon_moussou/32/371617_2.png) [@Echelon\_Moussou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Echelon_Moussou)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2019, 6:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-semiosis/147507/942 "2019-05-17T18:36:02Z")

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gimme a sec

EDIT: looks like esi just broke? or maybe they’re fed up with me abusing it lol

EDIT: yes I can. esi break was temporary.

this is the data I can get on a star:

{  
“age”: 4556746951,  
“luminosity”: 0.1915999948978424,  
“name”: “Lossa - Star”,  
“radius”: 299400000,  
“solar\_system\_id”: 30001687,  
“spectral\_class”: “G4 V”,  
“temperature”: 5548,  
“type\_id”: 45036  
}

what do you need?

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**Author:** ![dfase\_Anninen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dfase_anninen/32/131710_2.png) [@dfase\_Anninen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/dfase_Anninen)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2019, 6:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-semiosis/147507/943 "2019-05-17T18:40:46Z")

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> [@Echelon\_Moussou](#):
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> “spectral\_class”: “G4 V”,

“spectral\_class”: “G4 V” I think we should look for B 0  
, ![9999](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/b/8/b82614e52204f8478725d995d3e913daa2e065a0.png)

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**Author:** ![Echelon\_Moussou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/echelon_moussou/32/371617_2.png) [@Echelon\_Moussou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Echelon_Moussou)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2019, 6:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-semiosis/147507/944 "2019-05-17T18:41:28Z")

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sure. I’ll write something that allows me to filter any type if that happens to change

EDIT: So what do you think the V is? does it matter?

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**Author:** ![dfase\_Anninen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dfase_anninen/32/131710_2.png) [@dfase\_Anninen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/dfase_Anninen)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2019, 6:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-semiosis/147507/945 "2019-05-17T18:44:31Z")

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> [@Echelon\_Moussou](#):
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> So what do you think the V is? does it matter?

No matter. Often where B0, there is a spectral class of the star F

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**Author:** ![Annisir\_Kaugan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/annisir_kaugan/32/388372_2.png) [@Annisir\_Kaugan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Annisir_Kaugan)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2019, 6:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-semiosis/147507/946 "2019-05-17T18:49:35Z")

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There are a few different star classification systems. But from the Triglavians, Belo-Cherno is Luminescence Thermokinesis is temp etc.

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**Author:** ![Gosakumori\_Noh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gosakumori_noh/32/308623_2.png) [@Gosakumori\_Noh](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gosakumori_Noh)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2019, 6:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-semiosis/147507/947 "2019-05-17T18:51:11Z")

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Not to worry, I just alphabetized your list and am comparing it to DOTLAN. Having the list in the first place is a huge step!

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**Author:** ![Taloris\_Aldercain](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/taloris_aldercain/32/317529_2.png) [@Taloris\_Aldercain](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Taloris_Aldercain)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2019, 6:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-semiosis/147507/948 "2019-05-17T18:51:21Z")

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For the Directive Lightning feed… am I the only one that had an asteroid belt or shattered planet come to mind? Only because it looked like those were some kind of rocks.

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**Author:** ![Echelon\_Moussou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/echelon_moussou/32/371617_2.png) [@Echelon\_Moussou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Echelon_Moussou)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2019, 6:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-semiosis/147507/949 "2019-05-17T18:54:53Z")

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oh thats interesting. im still doing the o1 filtering but if there’s any other things u want applied i can do them. probably.

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**Author:** ![Annisir\_Kaugan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/annisir_kaugan/32/388372_2.png) [@Annisir\_Kaugan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Annisir_Kaugan)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2019, 7:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-semiosis/147507/950 "2019-05-17T19:02:18Z")

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I don’t think some of it is accessible. Profound matter could well be a reference to Isogen-5 or even materials unknown to our technology. Protium transition could be a measure of the rate of fusion possibly. We have speculated that Porevitium trace might be related to the difficulty of opening a gate or wormhole. They appear to use their own system of classifying light, in terms of Immanence. I haven’t been able to form a comparison on the Liminal Boundary. To me Liminal means the system itself, possibly the threshold between it an other systems.

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**Author:** ![dfase\_Anninen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dfase_anninen/32/131710_2.png) [@dfase\_Anninen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/dfase_Anninen)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2019, 7:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-semiosis/147507/951 "2019-05-17T19:04:56Z")

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We have 5 star systems. 3 we know. If we find 1 with the station, we will find the last fifth. Soon there will be the sixth star system. And knowledge of these 6 systems can give - the final star system, where the invasion will be. Maybe.

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**Author:** ![Echelon\_Moussou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/echelon_moussou/32/371617_2.png) [@Echelon\_Moussou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Echelon_Moussou)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2019, 7:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-semiosis/147507/952 "2019-05-17T19:06:24Z")

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None of the systems were b0. not joking

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**Author:** ![Echelon\_Moussou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/echelon_moussou/32/371617_2.png) [@Echelon\_Moussou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Echelon_Moussou)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2019, 7:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arc-semiosis/147507/953 "2019-05-17T19:09:30Z")

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i’m going to try the list with

THERMOKINESIS: 5.7  
BELO-CHERNO SCALE: 0.31

assumption that luminescence is unchanged and temperature is in thousands of kelvin.

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