# Are alphas a sink of some sort? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [October 17, 2017, 10:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-alphas-a-sink-of-some-sort/32234 "2017-10-17T22:20:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 3
**Author:** ![Erethond](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/erethond/32/11049_2.png) [@Erethond](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Erethond)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2017, 10:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-alphas-a-sink-of-some-sort/32234/3 "2017-10-17T22:26:44Z")
TVP should accept them, as they have an entry fit with meta 4 guns and ~2.2M SP required. There really isn’t much T2 that alphas won’t be able to get come the update, and you can always use faction/DED equivalents for the odd thing (like in the unlikely case of them not getting T2 invuls/hardeners). More details: > **[Winter Alpha Skill Expansion](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/winter-alpha-skill-expansion/31525/21?u=erethond)** > > Looking at the TVP Vindicator basic plan (provided here) and applying it to one of my gallente PI alt who has never trained in combat (maybe, a tiny bit in navigation/engineering, but not enough to matter), he needs 2.2M SP more to qualify, or 1.5-2... --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-alphas-a-sink-of-some-sort/32234)._