# Are Any Forms of a Lottery Permitted Now? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [September 24, 2024, 8:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-any-forms-of-a-lottery-permitted-now/462354 "2024-09-24T20:32:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Barota\_Gogiko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/barota_gogiko/32/425501_2.png) [@Barota\_Gogiko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Barota_Gogiko)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2024, 8:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-any-forms-of-a-lottery-permitted-now/462354/1 "2024-09-24T20:32:04Z")
Can we use 3rd Party websites or Apps to conduct a lottery for an in-game item? HyperNet Relay is terrible. đŸ€ą ---
**Author:** ![James\_Bohd](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/james_bohd/32/431694_2.png) [@James\_Bohd](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/James_Bohd)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2024, 9:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-any-forms-of-a-lottery-permitted-now/462354/2 "2024-09-24T21:07:02Z")
I don’t see why not. Make sure you demand PLEX as entry fee. ---
**Author:** ![Anataine\_Deva](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anataine_deva/32/373865_2.png) [@Anataine\_Deva](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anataine_Deva)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2024, 9:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-any-forms-of-a-lottery-permitted-now/462354/3 "2024-09-24T21:36:41Z")
Sorry but that’s against the EULA. > 
You may not use, transfer or assign any game assets for games of chance operated by third parties
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**Author:** ![Barota\_Gogiko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/barota_gogiko/32/425501_2.png) [@Barota\_Gogiko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Barota_Gogiko)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2024, 9:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-any-forms-of-a-lottery-permitted-now/462354/5 "2024-09-24T21:39:37Z")
Trading in-game assets for other in-game assets
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**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2024, 9:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-any-forms-of-a-lottery-permitted-now/462354/6 "2024-09-24T21:39:54Z")
Lotteries happen, but youd have to see how they run things. In particular the BIG Lottery ---
**Author:** ![Sara\_Seraph](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sara_seraph/32/495525_2.png) [@Sara\_Seraph](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sara_Seraph)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2024, 9:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-any-forms-of-a-lottery-permitted-now/462354/7 "2024-09-24T21:42:55Z")
before starting something like this
 I would definitely get an official response from CCP not a bunch of sea lawyers. ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2024, 9:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-any-forms-of-a-lottery-permitted-now/462354/8 "2024-09-24T21:43:43Z")
> **[Lotteries Growing in Popularity](https://universe.eveonline.com/interstellar-correspondents/lotteries-growing-in-popularity)** > > by ISD Angelus Faust Over the past few years lotteries have gradually become increasingly popular throughout New Eden. Recently, however, the industry has exploded with an estimated 50,000 pilots partaking in lotteries such as SOMERblink, Ships of... > [@(#558) The BIG Lottery - Win 1B ISK and MUCH more](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/558-the-big-lottery-win-1b-isk-and-much-more/461639): > > [[image] ](http://biglottery.big-eve.com/images/rec-header.jpg)[[u]The BIG Lottery[/u]](http://biglottery.big-eve.com/) EVE’s Premiere Lottery - Non-Stop since May 2003 Round #558 : 2024/09/16 - 2024/09/29 Prizes: 1,000,000,000 ISK Dramiel (fitted) (\*1) Stratios and Astero (\*2) (\*1 and \*2) In-channel-participation only prizes. (\*1) Sponsored by KongGal (\*2) Sponsored by Macabre Devil Win more ISK!!! Put a “The BIG Lottery” link into your bio - Exact text! Make sure it links to “[http://BIGLottery.BIG-EVE.com](http://BIGLottery.BIG-EVE.com)” If you have it,
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**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2024, 9:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-any-forms-of-a-lottery-permitted-now/462354/9 "2024-09-24T21:45:29Z")
That’s about a decade old. ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2024, 9:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-any-forms-of-a-lottery-permitted-now/462354/10 "2024-09-24T21:45:47Z")
Yea still big lottery still happens I was looking for proof that lotteries are not totally against the rules but that also the BIG lottery still exists as thats a most recent forum post for it ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2024, 9:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-any-forms-of-a-lottery-permitted-now/462354/11 "2024-09-24T21:47:24Z")
The BIG is free to participate, basically it is a random giveaway among people who sign up each month. That is why it is legal as the person running it earns nothing, just gives away stuff. The “lottery” in its name is from old times when paid participation lottery was still allowed (as far as I recall). ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2024, 9:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-any-forms-of-a-lottery-permitted-now/462354/12 "2024-09-24T21:48:06Z")
> [@Barota\_Gogiko](#): > > Can we use 3rd Party websites or Apps to conduct a lottery for an in-game item? Why waste your time. Just host an ISK doubling service run by a bot. Best ROI of anything you can do in the game. Mr Epeen đŸ•¶ ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2024, 9:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-any-forms-of-a-lottery-permitted-now/462354/13 "2024-09-24T21:52:06Z")
> [@Mr\_Epeen](#): > > Why waste your time. Just host an ISK doubling service run by a bot. Best ROI of anything you can do in the game. And spam the new player channels
 đŸ˜± ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2024, 9:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-any-forms-of-a-lottery-permitted-now/462354/14 "2024-09-24T21:53:18Z")
> [@Arthur\_Aihaken](#): > > And spam Inb4 `Read my BIO and win!` 😛 đŸ€” 🙃 ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2024, 9:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-any-forms-of-a-lottery-permitted-now/462354/15 "2024-09-24T21:55:07Z")
> [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#): > > Inb4 `Read my BIO and win!` 😛 đŸ€” 🙃 You’re not kidding
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**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2024, 9:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-any-forms-of-a-lottery-permitted-now/462354/16 "2024-09-24T21:57:51Z")
> [@Arthur\_Aihaken](#): > > not kidding It is an old thing, it was prominent in Jita local even before the new blocking feature was added. 😉 I even have it as part of an illustration for my EVE guide: > **[Steam Community :: Guide :: Quick guide to EVE Online](https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1165272880)** > > A short simple guide to help beginning your journey in New Eden.... ![1165272880_preview_guidelines_trustno1](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/3/e/4/3e4488c4b719cdae577257c35f6a3d2723881c5d.png) 😊 ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2024, 10:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-any-forms-of-a-lottery-permitted-now/462354/17 "2024-09-24T22:02:16Z")
I offer a fun game. Send me one billion isk. I will flip a coin, 50% odds either way. If it’s heads, I send you ten billion isk. If it’s tails, you get your money back. ---
**Author:** ![James\_Bohd](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/james_bohd/32/431694_2.png) [@James\_Bohd](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/James_Bohd)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2024, 10:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-any-forms-of-a-lottery-permitted-now/462354/18 "2024-09-24T22:11:17Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > Send me one billion isk. The “princess of highsec” turns out to be just another scammer
 I might’ve known. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2024, 10:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-any-forms-of-a-lottery-permitted-now/462354/19 "2024-09-24T22:11:43Z")
It’s not a scam. It’s a giveaway. 10 billion isk to the first lucky winner. ---
**Author:** ![James\_Bohd](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/james_bohd/32/431694_2.png) [@James\_Bohd](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/James_Bohd)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2024, 10:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-any-forms-of-a-lottery-permitted-now/462354/20 "2024-09-24T22:12:25Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > It’s not a scam. > > It’s a giveaway Tell that to the judge, crook. ---
**Author:** ![Anataine\_Deva](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anataine_deva/32/373865_2.png) [@Anataine\_Deva](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anataine_Deva)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2024, 10:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-any-forms-of-a-lottery-permitted-now/462354/21 "2024-09-24T22:29:07Z")
> [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#): > > The BIG is free to participate, basically it is a random giveaway among people who sign up each month. That is why it is legal as the person running it earns nothing, just gives away stuff. The “lottery” in its name is from old times when paid participation lottery was still allowed (as far as I recall). That is correct. Everything else in this thread has already been discussed to death back then when CCP added my first quoted part into the EULA and with that banned any form of “games of chance” that isn’t conducted by CCP themself. If someone gives something to get something in return and is there some form of chance element involved, then it’s in CCP’s eyes gambling and therefore prohibited. If you like it or not. [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-any-forms-of-a-lottery-permitted-now/462354.md?page=2)