# Are “hang-out corporations” a thing?

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**Created:** [January 3, 2018, 9:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-hang-out-corporations-a-thing/49043 "2018-01-03T21:36:54Z")\
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**Author:** ![Kenneth\_Endashi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kenneth_endashi/32/256217_2.png) [@Kenneth\_Endashi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kenneth_Endashi)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2018, 9:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-hang-out-corporations-a-thing/49043/1 "2018-01-03T21:36:55Z")

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I’m not one for taking orders, so I dislike hierarchical corporations and fleet operations. I can’t think of a more boring pursuit than logging onto discord and waiting for some nerd to tell me exactly what to do in a ship he told me to bring. I understand that’s crucial to the game but not my game.

I used to run a successful drug corporation. Then they legalized drugs and it’s neither fun nor profitable anymore. Nice move, CSM!

So now I successfully traffic slaves, and I can do this totally alone; in fact, it’s easier this than delegating or managing wallets others use on my behalf.

Unfortunately this has created a lonesome Eve experience. I’ve been in other corporations and had no use for them since all my profits came from exploration and all my losses came through them telling me when and where to fight. So I don’t need that and I don’t think I’m alone in my play style, either.

My question is, there must be others like me, who aren’t interested in taking orders but still enjoy the social aspect of corporate life - so how do I attract those players to my slave trade corporation? Eve Scout is one example of a great hangout corp but is held back by a restrictive creedo mandating pacifism. I get it. I agree with it, but that’s no fun.

Any of you guys feel the way I do? Anyone here ever join a corporation you didn’t need that didn’t you, but you liked chillin there anyway? I’m prepared for your stupid remarks, so make them anyway. But I’m also looking for real answers. You guys are out there, right?

Surely I’m in the minority, but I know I’m not alone. Peace, and be well.

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