# Are Navy ravens still used? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [April 10, 2021, 5:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-navy-ravens-still-used/304968 "2021-04-10T17:49:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2021, 12:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-navy-ravens-still-used/304968/43 "2021-04-11T12:02:52Z")
The post you replied to as clearly indicated by the forum, perhaps read it before you further embarrass yourself as you just admitted you don’t even read the posts you are replying to with completely unrelated comments. This gets better with each of your posts. 😂 ---
**Author:** ![JiggaTheWigga\_Malik](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jiggathewigga_malik/32/259492_2.png) [@JiggaTheWigga\_Malik](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JiggaTheWigga_Malik)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2021, 12:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-navy-ravens-still-used/304968/44 "2021-04-11T12:05:34Z")
yes it gets better and shows with you throwing garbage around where you latch on to threads like a disease and wont get lost and derail peoples posts and threads and stop people from learning or gaining knowledge. if anyone is embarrassing them selves is yourself with your behaviour. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2021, 12:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-navy-ravens-still-used/304968/45 "2021-04-11T12:07:11Z")
No argument just completely unrelated and unfounded nonsense. I accept your self-admission and surrender. :dealwithitparrot: ---
**Author:** ![JiggaTheWigga\_Malik](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jiggathewigga_malik/32/259492_2.png) [@JiggaTheWigga\_Malik](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JiggaTheWigga_Malik)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2021, 12:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-navy-ravens-still-used/304968/46 "2021-04-11T12:08:57Z")
no no please don’t surrender you won with your fancy deal with parrot emoji, that’s the ultimate last say post. its all over I will leave and sorry for even making a post here. Would just like to say thank you to everyone who contributed positively much appreciated keep up the good work you are an asset to the forums and knowledge of eve. I was able to dissect some builds and make a build which I am testing and is working great, I come to realise there are better ships than a raven navy but being away 15 years and returning i want to have a play with all the ones i have missed and see what the difference are while testing physically and not just by writing notes. Once again a big thank you for the positive contributors. Kind regards Jigga ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2021, 12:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-navy-ravens-still-used/304968/47 "2021-04-11T12:09:42Z")
> [@JiggaTheWigga\_Malik](#): > > why the unnecessary replies and jokes where they are not needed? > The hypothetical person lacking a sense of humour would likely find the behaviour inducing it to be inexplicable, strange, or even irrational. > **[Humour](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humour)** > > Humour (Commonwealth English) or humor (American English) is the tendency of experiences to provoke laughter and provide amusement. The term derives from the humoral medicine of the ancient Greeks, which taught that the balance of fluids in the human body, known as humours (Latin: humor, "body fluid"), controlled human health and emotion. > People of all ages and cultures respond to humour. Most people are able to experience humour—be amused, smile or laugh at something funny (such as a pun or ... ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2021, 12:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-navy-ravens-still-used/304968/48 "2021-04-11T12:11:23Z")
@Anderson_Geten Nice try but it seems obvious he doesn’t have a sense for it so most likely he won’t be able to recognize it even if you explain to him what humor is. ---
**Author:** ![JiggaTheWigga\_Malik](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jiggathewigga_malik/32/259492_2.png) [@JiggaTheWigga\_Malik](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JiggaTheWigga_Malik)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2021, 12:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-navy-ravens-still-used/304968/49 "2021-04-11T12:11:37Z")
Kindly please try not to disguise your snarky troll posts remarks with humour and try to justify your behaviour, your not fooling anyone. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2021, 12:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-navy-ravens-still-used/304968/50 "2021-04-11T12:13:57Z")
Remember kids: ■■■■-fit Ravens are srs bsnss ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2021, 12:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-navy-ravens-still-used/304968/51 "2021-04-11T12:16:38Z")
> [@JiggaTheWigga\_Malik](#): > > Kindly please try not to disguise your snarky troll posts remarks with humour and try to justify your behaviour, your not fooling anyone. Which troll post remark ? which conclusions ? You are the one jumping to conclusions. People gave troll fits (with the cloak), as a joke I believe(I hope) so I gave another joke . And you think it was a “snarky remark” ? You are the one insulting me, making me write things I did not write. YOU are the one trolling here. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2021, 12:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-navy-ravens-still-used/304968/52 "2021-04-11T12:21:29Z")
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**Author:** ![Xanthellus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xanthellus/32/253691_2.png) [@Xanthellus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xanthellus)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2021, 1:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-navy-ravens-still-used/304968/53 "2021-04-11T13:43:20Z")
Terrible posters being terrible posters, per usual. Incapable or unwilling to be helpful and useful, if just for once. Not all but some. OP: if a fit doesn’t have damage application mods or rigs it’s going to be a bad fit as you lose quite a bit of actual damage without them. A partial solution to that would be rapid heavies but even there you want some application, also those come with their own bunch of issues one of them being limited clip potential which more of an issue if ship bonuses are based on rate of fire Instead of damage. And the raven gets a rof bonus making it less ideal for rapids. The navy version doesn’t get a damage bonus at all which is kinda meh but makes it “ok” for rapids. Beyond that ships that are specifically used to complete missions (mostly lacking in tank to completely clear pockets, only hit mission objectives) don’t necessarily give you the most income as a large portion of your income is loot&salvage. So a Raven, or any other missile ship, that doesn’t have guidance computers with precision scripts or a full set of rigor&flare rigs is going to be slow and bad. Unless it uses rapids but then you still want _some_ application. ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2021, 1:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-navy-ravens-still-used/304968/54 "2021-04-11T13:56:23Z")
This is my Raven fit that my former boss for USIA put me on blast about, which i still occasionally use if i’m not blitzing for the USIA. > **Rayven** > > [Raven, Rayven] > Ballistic Control System II > Damage Control II > Ballistic Control System II > Ballistic Control System II > Signal Amplifier II > > Gist C-Type Large Shield Booster > Adaptive Invulnerability Field II > Cap Recharger II > Shield Boost Amplifier II > Adaptive Invulnerability Field II > Cap Recharger II > Target Painter II > > Cruise Missile Launcher II > Cruise Missile Launcher II > Cruise Missile Launcher II > Cruise Missile Launcher II > Cruise Missile Launcher II > Cruise Missile Launcher II > Drone Link Augmentor II > > Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst II > Large Capacitor Control Circuit I > Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst II ---
**Author:** ![Giddy\_McFee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/giddy_mcfee/32/375711_2.png) [@Giddy\_McFee](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Giddy_McFee)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2021, 4:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-navy-ravens-still-used/304968/55 "2021-04-11T16:00:31Z")
Intresting fit, no prop mod at all, also why a drone link to increase drone range, i thought drone range was already quite decent and cruise missiles reach out a long way anyway. Surely better of losing the drone aug and having an extra launcher no? ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2021, 4:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-navy-ravens-still-used/304968/56 "2021-04-11T16:02:36Z")
I don’t use drones anymore, but I just never updated that fit from another thread. If I have long missions, I’ll trade the tp for an ab. I just like to relax when I run missions in this ship, take my time, kill everything and pick up the mtu when I’m done ---
**Author:** ![Giddy\_McFee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/giddy_mcfee/32/375711_2.png) [@Giddy\_McFee](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Giddy_McFee)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2021, 5:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-navy-ravens-still-used/304968/57 "2021-04-11T17:45:10Z")
same, although both my Raven NIs are collecting dust atm as I am in npc null. Ishtars seem to be king out here ---
**Author:** ![Spruillo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/spruillo/32/399314_2.png) [@Spruillo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Spruillo)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2021, 7:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-navy-ravens-still-used/304968/58 "2021-04-11T19:40:32Z")
> [@Daichi\_Yamato](#): > > I’ve never owned a navy raven but i know they should always be bling fit and no tank is necessary because they are so awesome. You’re one of these guys that fits up the most awesome fit ever on the most awesome ship ever and jumps right into the middle of an unfamiliar DED/Anom/LVL4 and WTFPWNBBQ’s away ina pod aren’t you. Not that Ive ever… ---
**Author:** ![Doctor\_Mabuse](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/doctor_mabuse/32/266587_2.png) [@Doctor\_Mabuse](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Doctor_Mabuse)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2021, 8:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-navy-ravens-still-used/304968/59 "2021-04-11T20:08:47Z")
> [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#): > > 🤭 > > it is literally too late for the guy to delete his post to remove his fit as I’ve quoted it in my post thus it is there for everyone to see forever. 🙂 Oh, that fit has been around for a long time: [https://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=680281](https://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=680281) It’s even immortalised in the ‘Ship Fitting Guide’ item. No need for me to remove anything 😀 ---
**Author:** ![Hidden\_Markov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hidden_markov/32/260260_2.png) [@Hidden\_Markov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hidden_Markov)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2021, 12:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-navy-ravens-still-used/304968/60 "2021-04-12T00:33:08Z")
Yep. that build relies on range tanking. Except for missile chuckers like gurista you just keep on hitting MJD off cooldown to never really get hit. Usually by the time in gun range your MJD should be off cd. ONly gurista will tag at 100km’s. For them I’d pull a cap mod and second computer for a basic shield booster/hardener combo. Gurista makes that easy. Kinetic. MWD pulses after the MJD can keep on pulling range as well. Rigors give the boost to applied damage from max range. MJD gives some downtime but once you know a mission you learn spots to take to offset. Useful skill to pick if going to torps. Works the same as a blaster boat. MJD in, and blow crap up fast. BUt the MJD placement has to be good imo. Torp fits…meh I never really liked torps. I prefer a blaster boat for that. Even null ammo gives satisfying blap moments lol. ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2021, 12:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-navy-ravens-still-used/304968/61 "2021-04-12T00:59:47Z")
guristas will tag out to 300km even. ---
**Author:** ![Hidden\_Markov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hidden_markov/32/260260_2.png) [@Hidden\_Markov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hidden_Markov)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2021, 2:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-navy-ravens-still-used/304968/62 "2021-04-12T02:28:38Z")
Had a brain fart taking my new kronos on a shake down runs this weekend. Got worlds collide which I wanted. This and the extravaganza’s were eluding me to see my kronos run them. Hit gurista side room after the gate unlock for landing room and popped mjd since alot of ships there out of instinct. Realized after I did this oh yeah…they hit real good at 100+ at this range. Oh well…this just got longer for blaster test run lol. Side note of for some of the buffers fits above…gurista hurt more. Buffer fits are right up their alley. If used…I’d find a way to put in SPR’s. You will take many hits you might want recovered faster. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-navy-ravens-still-used/304968.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-navy-ravens-still-used/304968.md?page=4)