# Are Polygamous Marriages Recognised in your Culture? **URL:** \ **Category:** Intergalactic Summit\ **Created:** [October 29, 2023, 2:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-polygamous-marriages-recognised-in-your-culture/425465 "2023-10-29T14:06:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 1:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-polygamous-marriages-recognised-in-your-culture/425465/22 "2023-11-01T13:12:34Z")
> [@Synthetic\_Cultist](#): > > Are such things Allowed in your Culture ? Are they Common ? How do such Arrangements Function ? > [@Synthetic\_Cultist](#): > > Politics. Looks like your question was answered. ---
**Author:** ![Che\_Biko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/che_biko/32/500836_2.png) [@Che\_Biko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Che_Biko)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 1:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-polygamous-marriages-recognised-in-your-culture/425465/23 "2023-11-01T13:33:01Z")
In Origin (which is as much a mix of cultures as a culture of its own) these things are allowed, and they are quite common. I can only really answer how my own polygamous marriage works: There are two households. Both my wives are friendly to each other. Now I think about it, I guess there’s not much of a difference with monogamous marriages, apart that I have two of them. There is something I have done to make it work a bit better, but it’s not quite legal (outside of Origin), strictly speaking, so I won’t mention that here, even if it’s a bit of a public secret. I do not understand why the rights of child A1 are unclear if those for child B! and B2 are obvious. > [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#): > > It’s hard enough to have one significant other. Why add a second? I agree with it being hard enough. For me, it was not a choice. I did not go looking for a second significant other, but I fell in love with another one, and my love endures, despite the added difficulty. > [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#): > > Having one, and being committed to only one is a sacrifice that says, I care only for you, and no one else, in an intimate fashion. It’s a gift and demands self control and discipline. I feel like there is some contradiction in this. If you only care for one and no one else, then I think there is no sacrifice, and it does not demand self control and discipline. ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 5:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-polygamous-marriages-recognised-in-your-culture/425465/24 "2023-11-01T17:16:25Z")
> [@Che\_Biko](#): > > I feel like there is some contradiction in this. If you only care for one and no one else, then I think there is no sacrifice, and it does not demand self control and discipline. Really? Didn’t the eggheads say: > [@Malak\_Starfire](#): > > Biology actually more supports having multiple partners to have offspring with. More offspring with varying genetic makeups (different partners) means more chances at survival as a species. That means that we are biologically wired to sleep around. It’s easy to give into temptation. It take sacrifice and dedication to not to. Lest we become just like animals. ---
**Author:** ![darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darkestkhan_eriker/32/390091_2.png) [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/darkestkhan_Eriker)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 9:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-polygamous-marriages-recognised-in-your-culture/425465/25 "2023-11-01T21:00:37Z")
Last I checked we are animals. Just because we can (and should) control ourselves doesn’t mean we aren’t animals. ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 9:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-polygamous-marriages-recognised-in-your-culture/425465/26 "2023-11-01T21:21:38Z")
No, we are more than animals. Sure, biologically, but cognitively? Nope. ---
**Author:** ![Anders\_Om](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anders_om/32/389209_2.png) [@Anders\_Om](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anders_Om)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 10:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-polygamous-marriages-recognised-in-your-culture/425465/27 "2023-11-01T22:20:56Z")
Cognition is an aspect of our biology. It’s simply more evolved than in other animals. But it’s still a naturally evolved trait. ---
**Author:** ![Anders\_Om](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anders_om/32/389209_2.png) [@Anders\_Om](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anders_Om)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 10:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-polygamous-marriages-recognised-in-your-culture/425465/28 "2023-11-01T22:28:08Z")
> [@Yuu\_Sharisa](#): > > Putting aside religion, law and tribal nonsense, polygamy is just gross. No. There is nothing _inherently_ gross about polygamy. That’s sneaking in “religion, law and tribal nonsense” again. ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2023, 12:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-polygamous-marriages-recognised-in-your-culture/425465/29 "2023-11-02T00:07:16Z")
> [@Anders\_Om](#): > > Cognition is an aspect of our biology. It’s simply more evolved than in other animals. But it’s still a naturally evolved trait. Thanks for making my point. Yes, we are more evolved than other animals. > [@Anders\_Om](#): > > No. There is nothing _inherently_ gross about polygamy. That’s sneaking in “religion, law and tribal nonsense” again. Yes, it is gross. I can’t imagine the mental and emotional agony it does to each member in the relationship. All vying for each other’s attention. The jealousy it brews. The backbiting. The cuckolding. I’d also bet you’re into “open” relationships as well. ---
**Author:** ![Che\_Biko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/che_biko/32/500836_2.png) [@Che\_Biko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Che_Biko)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2023, 12:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-polygamous-marriages-recognised-in-your-culture/425465/30 "2023-11-02T00:58:09Z")
Well, I think our discussion may be a bit semantic, but what I’m trying to say is that if you are tempted, than you don’t care for no one else. > [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#): > > I can’t imagine the mental and emotional agony it does to each member in the relationship. All vying for each other’s attention. The jealousy it brews. The backbiting. The cuckolding. I’d also bet you’re into “open” relationships as well. You really can’t. When it comes to the vying for attention, I’ve found an effective solution. The jealousy becomes less of an issue once you learn that even if your significant other has another partner, it does not threaten your relationship. I really doubt my wives are backbiting about each other. Cuckolding does not have to be a part of it. I am into open relatioships, though. ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2023, 1:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-polygamous-marriages-recognised-in-your-culture/425465/31 "2023-11-02T01:07:46Z")
> [@Che\_Biko](#): > > I am into open relatioships, though. Everyone needs a hobby, I guess. I feel bad for you and your wives though. I can’t think of much that is more selfish than sleeping around with whomever, and pretending that everyone is okay with it. “My wives sleep around on me, and it’s perfectly fine! I’m A-Okay, because I can sleep around on them!” This makes my skin crawl. But hey, no worries. What you do in the marriage bed is your business. I honestly can say, that I don’t want to know anymore details. ---
**Author:** ![Aria\_Jenneth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aria_jenneth/32/469792_2.png) [@Aria\_Jenneth](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aria_Jenneth)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2023, 2:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-polygamous-marriages-recognised-in-your-culture/425465/32 "2023-11-02T02:00:46Z")
> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#): > > No, we are more than animals. > > Sure, biologically, but cognitively? Nope. You flatter us extravagantly, Mr. Thorne. Human intelligence and reason is an impressive tool … but that’s all it is. And it’s not like we even really let either of those govern us. Reason, mostly, is a tool we use to justify the decisions we’ve already made. And intelligence mostly helps us efficiently achieve our most elaborate mistakes. We might be the most dangerous fools evolution’s produced to date. So maybe you don’t flatter us, after all. Maybe it’s an insult, saying that we don’t belong in the same category as things that don’t murder solar systems and call it progress. ---
**Author:** ![Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mizhara_del_thul/32/486150_2.png) [@Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mizhara_Del_thul)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2023, 2:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-polygamous-marriages-recognised-in-your-culture/425465/33 "2023-11-02T02:11:50Z")
How do people manage to become capsuleers without fairly basic education? Evolution does not have tiers or ratings or levels of ascension. Our intelligence is a trait that served us well as a species, but is hardly indicative of “more evolved” than anything else. There’s utterly brainless globs with the structural integrity of your average sneeze that’s objectively more successful than us in terms of adaptability, survivability and biome availability and so on and so forth. There’s organisms with vastly more genetic history of adaptation through mutation, which would be another measurable metric of having evolved more than we have. Intelligence isn’t some sort of evolutionary goal. If anything, it looks like it’s something of an anomaly as far as evolution goes. ---
**Author:** ![Aria\_Jenneth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aria_jenneth/32/469792_2.png) [@Aria\_Jenneth](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aria_Jenneth)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2023, 3:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-polygamous-marriages-recognised-in-your-culture/425465/35 "2023-11-02T03:02:01Z")
> [@Anders\_Om](#): > > regulate their emotions accordingly. Ah. Pilot? You realize the reason we’re not allowed to have multiple active instances of a single individual is because instead of all the clones approaching it rationally there’s a strong tendency for it to result in mental illness and eventually progress to … ah … alt-suicide? (Autocide?) Much as we like to act like our emotions are ours to shepherd and train to jump through hoops usually it’s more like the other way around. ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2023, 3:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-polygamous-marriages-recognised-in-your-culture/425465/36 "2023-11-02T03:14:19Z")
> [@Anders\_Om](#): > > _inherently_ gross. Since when does one need to have an argument for a feeling? > [@Anders\_Om](#): > > That sounds like an argument for having only one kid, Gross, you have sex with your kids? Because I’m talking about the consequences of sexual intimacy between multiple adults. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2023, 6:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-polygamous-marriages-recognised-in-your-culture/425465/38 "2023-11-02T06:36:35Z")
> [@Anders\_Om](#): > > > [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#): > > > > Yes, we are more evolved than other animals. > > In this aspect. In others, not so much. No. No we’re not. We’re no more evolved than other animals. That’d imply some animals _stopped_ evolving… and they don’t. Nothing ever stops evolving. As long as organisms exist in an environment, any environment, they’re adapting to its conditions, no matter how little those conditions seem like they’re changing. FFS, this whole nonsense just screams of people with no concept of how evolution actually works. ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2023, 12:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-polygamous-marriages-recognised-in-your-culture/425465/40 "2023-11-02T12:16:58Z")
> [@Anders\_Om](#): > > Take the sexual aspect out of it and we see that the argument doesn’t make sense. Of course you would want to take out the sexual aspect because that’s how you justify your sexual deviancy. Sex changes the dynamics and your trying to create a false equivalency to justify sleeping around and being sexually promiscuous. Who are you really trying to convince here. Me or you? > [@Anders\_Om](#): > > So you admit it’s just subjective, not something inherent and by nature wrong. Playing the supposition game are we? How about this. Deep down in my soul, and my gut, I know it’s inherently wrong, and disgusting, for me. If you want hump the legs of everyone you meet on the street, don’t let me stop you. > [@Arrendis](#): > > That’d imply some animals _stopped_ evolving… and they don’t. Nothing ever stops evolving. No, I didn’t imply that they stopped evolving. You did however. I’m implying that we are on a different branch of the evolutionary tree where we have evolved functions that other animals did not. ---
**Author:** ![Aria\_Jenneth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aria_jenneth/32/469792_2.png) [@Aria\_Jenneth](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aria_Jenneth)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2023, 6:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-polygamous-marriages-recognised-in-your-culture/425465/41 "2023-11-02T18:10:15Z")
> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#): > > I’m implying that we are on a different branch of the evolutionary tree where we have evolved functions that other animals did not. “Bootstrapping tool use,” using tools to make better tools, and then those to make better tools still, and so on. It’s a powerful ability no doubt, but I’m not sure it makes us not-animals any more than key defining traits of other species do. Eusocial insects live radically differently from other, more solitary or even just conventionally social creatures. But eusocial insects are still insects, and insects are still animals. It also seems to me like a lot of the most harmful things people do start with people telling themselves they’re special-- better than other animals, better than other human nations, better than other bloodlines, better than their neighbors. It seems like the end result of this pretty consistently is deciding the world owes them something extra for being so special and therefore they have no qualms about taking it. But probably they can’t help it. It’s in their nature; they’re-- we’re-- just animals, after all. ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2023, 6:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-polygamous-marriages-recognised-in-your-culture/425465/42 "2023-11-02T18:29:48Z")
> [@Aria\_Jenneth](#): > > It’s a powerful ability no doubt, but I’m not sure it makes us not-animals any more than key defining traits of other species do. Eusocial insects live radically differently from other, more solitary or even just conventionally social creatures. But eusocial insects are still insects, and insects are still animals. What does this have to do with sex, marriage and monogamous vs. polygamous relationships? ---
**Author:** ![Aria\_Jenneth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aria_jenneth/32/469792_2.png) [@Aria\_Jenneth](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aria_Jenneth)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2023, 6:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-polygamous-marriages-recognised-in-your-culture/425465/43 "2023-11-02T18:58:25Z")
It has more to do with whether we’re on a different branch of the evolutionary tree. (I won’t argue we’re on our own twig, but so’s everything else.) You might be aware I have some opinions about Caldari marriage customs, Mr. Thorne, but I don’t claim to be representative. (Well-- I might be; it can be a little hard to get an accurate read on public opinion in the State. Probably I’m not, though.) As for polygamy … we mostly don’t do it presently but it’s one of those things where Achura’s kind of a big place actually and there are a lot of different customs, both currently and historically, depending where you go. Usually polygamy starts cropping up wherever “being able to support multiple women” (in a context where the women aren’t expected to support themselves, sigh) becomes a status symbol. ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2023, 10:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-polygamous-marriages-recognised-in-your-culture/425465/45 "2023-11-02T22:22:54Z")
> [@Aria\_Jenneth](#): > > I have some opinions about Caldari marriage customs, Mr. Thorne, Personally, I’m not a fan of the State Matchmaking System. But I do find value and virtue in a monogamous relationship. As I’ve said. Self control, discipline, sacrificial love, devotion to name a few. As for polygamous, forced upon those due to cultural pressures, that gets a bit of a pass. Adhering to family traditions if one can’t break away. But polyamorous and open relationships for the sake satiating one’s own sexual apatite, oftentimes wrapped in a thin wrapper of “love is love, and I love many people” is just….Ick. > [@Anders\_Om](#): > > so I’m going to stop replying here. Nothing of virtue and/or value was lost. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-polygamous-marriages-recognised-in-your-culture/425465.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-polygamous-marriages-recognised-in-your-culture/425465.md?page=3)