# Are there any years old unfixed bugs (that are not a feature) left in EVE?

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**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [August 9, 2023, 5:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-there-any-years-old-unfixed-bugs-that-are-not-a-feature-left-in-eve/415342 "2023-08-09T17:11:46Z")\
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**Author:** ![Pariah\_Omen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pariah_omen/32/379143_2.png) [@Pariah\_Omen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pariah_Omen)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2023, 2:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-there-any-years-old-unfixed-bugs-that-are-not-a-feature-left-in-eve/415342/23 "2023-08-15T02:15:09Z")

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Lol. The new ccp doesnt even have the ability to fix old code. This is going to be funny.

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**Author:** ![Mr\_Beardsley](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_beardsley/32/374058_2.png) [@Mr\_Beardsley](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Beardsley)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2023, 6:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-there-any-years-old-unfixed-bugs-that-are-not-a-feature-left-in-eve/415342/24 "2023-08-15T06:12:31Z")

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Doesn’t have the _ability_, or simply doesn’t care because fools will keep paying them either way?

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**Author:** ![Alice\_Saki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alice_saki/32/486142_2.png) [@Alice\_Saki](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alice_Saki)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2023, 6:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-there-any-years-old-unfixed-bugs-that-are-not-a-feature-left-in-eve/415342/25 "2023-08-15T18:57:00Z")

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DOUBLE BUBBLE 😉

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**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2023, 8:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-there-any-years-old-unfixed-bugs-that-are-not-a-feature-left-in-eve/415342/26 "2023-08-17T08:36:19Z")

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Nobody has more bugs? Well I add two more long time bugs that I encountered yet again today.

1. sometimes when you enter system all bookmarks you have in that system are invisible to you in space. (They can still be used by right-click menu)
2. locator agent sometimes takes the money, but never let you know. I don’t think this happened with level 3, but it happened a few times with level 1 to me.

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**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2023, 8:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-there-any-years-old-unfixed-bugs-that-are-not-a-feature-left-in-eve/415342/27 "2023-08-17T08:42:38Z")

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> [@Vokan\_Narkar](#):
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> sometimes when you enter system all bookmarks you have in that system are invisible to you in space. (They can still be used by right-click menu)

Can confirm sometimes happens to me too, though as I barely sign in for like 15 mins a day most cases it was many months ago it last occurred.

Note that sometimes turning off the bookmark indicators then back again in the display settings above your capacitor display can help but not always. Re-docking sometimes also help but also not guaranteed.

> [@Vokan\_Narkar](#):
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> locator agent sometimes takes the money, but never let you know. I don’t think this happened with level 3, but it happened a few times with level 1 to me.

Can also confirm with the same details as the previous one though there seems to be no workaround for this one.

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**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2023, 12:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-there-any-years-old-unfixed-bugs-that-are-not-a-feature-left-in-eve/415342/28 "2023-08-18T12:25:51Z")

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1. Sometimes when you log in, the notification feed shows dozen of new notifications, which you already saw and read. And sometimes it shows no new notifications, when there are unread ones. Happens pretty much every login actually.

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**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2023, 7:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-there-any-years-old-unfixed-bugs-that-are-not-a-feature-left-in-eve/415342/29 "2023-08-18T19:21:02Z")

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1. The initial automatic d-scan that happens when undocking (and having the d-scan open) doesn’t find anything in 90% of times and another manual scan has to be made.

This one became a norm so I didn’t even think of it as a bug lol and that is why I didn’t mention it in my initial post.

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**Author:** ![Dreg\_Apc](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dreg_apc/32/381263_2.png) [@Dreg\_Apc](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dreg_Apc)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2023, 8:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-there-any-years-old-unfixed-bugs-that-are-not-a-feature-left-in-eve/415342/30 "2023-08-20T08:02:27Z")

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> [@(Ammo) Crystal damage - you can NOT see it?](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ammo-crystal-damage-you-can-not-see-it/416580):
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> I noticed (as discussed in other threads) there is No (reasonable) way to see the damage of crystals: not in hangar not in cargo not hovering mouse over it not even RMB info The only way is to load it or to make a contract. Suggestion: do this; [image] The red number could be ‘pulsating’ to draw attention to it since its rather it is rather important. How this got away for 20 years is beyond my understanding. fs o/

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**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2023, 10:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-there-any-years-old-unfixed-bugs-that-are-not-a-feature-left-in-eve/415342/31 "2023-08-20T22:29:27Z")

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There is a difference between a missing feature and bug though.

I add another one.

1. Renaming ship in space sometimes doesn’t work and when you dock it still has old name in inventory.

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**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2023, 9:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-there-any-years-old-unfixed-bugs-that-are-not-a-feature-left-in-eve/415342/32 "2023-08-22T21:16:20Z")

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Here’s a long time bug - Station interior sounds and music. Sometimes they work, sometimes they don’t.

Esc menu has 2 different music options, override Dynamic music with Classic Eve music, one works and the other one doesn’t.

Use ‘Battle’ music option doesn’t work.

Character Customization screen has it’s own music but when that screen is active, the in-station music / sounds are mixed in with it.

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**Author:** ![Elinore\_en\_Divalone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elinore_en_divalone/32/507815_2.png) [@Elinore\_en\_Divalone](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elinore_en_Divalone)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2023, 10:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-there-any-years-old-unfixed-bugs-that-are-not-a-feature-left-in-eve/415342/33 "2023-08-22T22:17:02Z")

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I don’t know if anyone submitted the report for this one. Here goes:  
Star map location markers don’t show beacons when zooming up solar system selected.  
Stumbled on this today when I was searching for potential systems to check if there are Jove Observatories. They show up in overview as beacons.

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**Author:** ![Mr\_Beardsley](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_beardsley/32/374058_2.png) [@Mr\_Beardsley](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Beardsley)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2023, 8:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-there-any-years-old-unfixed-bugs-that-are-not-a-feature-left-in-eve/415342/34 "2023-08-23T20:15:56Z")

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- The titles of some daily challenges for killing drones don’t make it clear these are only _abyssal_ drones.

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**Author:** ![Mr\_Beardsley](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_beardsley/32/374058_2.png) [@Mr\_Beardsley](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Beardsley)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2023, 8:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-there-any-years-old-unfixed-bugs-that-are-not-a-feature-left-in-eve/415342/35 "2023-08-23T20:16:12Z")

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- When attempting to accept an epic arc the agent will sometimes say “I have already offered that to another pilot” or something to that effect. This can go on for weeks until the agent suddenly realizes it can give the mission to more than one person. (I’m guessing its a database error and is checking the wrong player to see if they’ve started but not completed that arc.)

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**Author:** ![Mr\_Beardsley](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_beardsley/32/374058_2.png) [@Mr\_Beardsley](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Beardsley)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2023, 8:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-there-any-years-old-unfixed-bugs-that-are-not-a-feature-left-in-eve/415342/36 "2023-08-23T20:16:21Z")

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- When using the jump/dock/activate gate command, ships frequently fail to jump through a stargate or dock at a station.

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**Author:** ![Akkar\_Kardashev](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/akkar_kardashev/32/514189_2.png) [@Akkar\_Kardashev](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Akkar_Kardashev)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2023, 5:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-there-any-years-old-unfixed-bugs-that-are-not-a-feature-left-in-eve/415342/37 "2023-08-27T17:11:02Z")

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this one is huge for me.

It almost never works and i have to just spam the dock/jump button as the ship drops out of warp.

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**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2023, 7:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-there-any-years-old-unfixed-bugs-that-are-not-a-feature-left-in-eve/415342/38 "2023-09-03T19:27:03Z")

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Doing new activity today reminded me the old bug with filters. Sometimes the overview filter, specifically to not show corp/fleet/alliance members doesn’t work correctly and it shows some of them in tab where they shouldn’t show. So that’s number 16.

I also found a new bug, don’t remember seeing this before but maybe someone also ran into this: I had keep range default value set to 21.000m yet when I clicked on my target my ship was actually keeping range to 1000m instead. Re-setting the keep at range to 21000 didn’t fix it. Had to se to 20000 and then 21000 and now it finally works properly again. I don’t think I changed keep at range with that toon like ever, but maybe I changed it on another toon on the same account some time ago.

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**Author:** ![Elinore\_en\_Divalone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elinore_en_divalone/32/507815_2.png) [@Elinore\_en\_Divalone](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elinore_en_Divalone)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2023, 7:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-there-any-years-old-unfixed-bugs-that-are-not-a-feature-left-in-eve/415342/39 "2023-09-03T19:52:05Z")

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> [@Vokan\_Narkar](#):
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> but maybe I changed it on another toon on the same account some time ago

Yeah it is strange that UI settings are per account and not per character. Sometimes it is handy, like setting up new overview tabs/filters.

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**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2023, 10:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-there-any-years-old-unfixed-bugs-that-are-not-a-feature-left-in-eve/415342/40 "2023-09-03T22:00:36Z")

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> [@Elinore\_en\_Divalone](#):
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> Yeah it is strange that UI settings are per account and not per character. Sometimes it is handy, like setting up new overview tabs/filters.

It could be per ship even…

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**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2023, 1:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-there-any-years-old-unfixed-bugs-that-are-not-a-feature-left-in-eve/415342/41 "2023-09-08T01:27:42Z")

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1. Sometimes when multifitting ships, or maybe fitting them via “fit button” I am not exactly sure when did this happen, the modules’ order is reversed. (And while you might think it is harmless or meaningless, it actually cased me to fail ganks so definitely not meaningless 😉 )

2. Sometimes the fitting window still shows the module after you unfitt and I think it prevents you to fit anything else despite the PG and CPU actually changed. Restarting the fitting window UI solves it.

EDIT oh and I forgot about this one

1. Fitting window likes to jump elsewhere on the screen as if you dragged it there, but you didn’t.

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**Post date:** [September 8, 2023, 7:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-there-any-years-old-unfixed-bugs-that-are-not-a-feature-left-in-eve/415342/42 "2023-09-08T07:23:00Z")

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> [@Vokan\_Narkar](#):
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> It could be per ship even…

Default Orbit distance and default keep at range distance is remembered per ship hull type.

Ex 1: If you hop into a Catalyst, it’ll load the „catalyst default“ for orbit and keep at range, then if you hop into a Tristan it’ll load the „Tristan default“ for orbit and keep at range.

Ex 2: It doesn’t remember for specific ships, so if you have a kite Breacher and a Brawl Breacher, there will only be one default remembered not two (so don’t accidentally „orbit 500“ default with your kiting ship!)

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