# Are Wardecs always going to be broken? Is a fix even possible? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [January 8, 2025, 2:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-wardecs-always-going-to-be-broken-is-a-fix-even-possible/473516 "2025-01-08T02:17:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 33
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2025, 12:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-wardecs-always-going-to-be-broken-is-a-fix-even-possible/473516/655 "2025-02-07T12:06:08Z")
> [@Kezrai\_Charzai](#): > > CCP wants citadels **blown up** , that’s clear. And citadel bashes are already boring enough in various areas. CCP isn’t about to make it even harder to remove them, and easier for groups to ‘own’ space by filling it with strong citadels. I want a source on this. I would like to see the memo from CCP that only you get. Why are you getting these emails from them when no one else is? You seem to have no trouble speaking for the wants and desires of CCP. > [@Kezrai\_Charzai](#): > > Second, your “all citadels can be attacked but suspect timers for everybody” just means someone will put a 200±man fleet together and go around and smash every citadel in high sec. And if any smaller group attacks a citadel anywhere, that same fleet will just show up on the timer and smash them as well. And that’s Eve online. Destruction is Eve Online. I’d rather have this than a bunch of complex rules and punishments and guidelines and required activities that mean absolutely nothing just to avoid penalties. All that crap is not Eve Online. ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2025, 1:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-wardecs-always-going-to-be-broken-is-a-fix-even-possible/473516/656 "2025-02-07T13:51:10Z")
> [@MB\_ThePhotographer](#): > > Do your homework. Sigh. OK…here’s today’s Maths 101 lesson just for you… You commented “The numbers were growing.”. Well of course they were. Unless you’ve suddenly discovered negative people ( though a few on this forum would fit that category ), the numbers CAN only go up from zero. That’ll be 10bn ISK Maths Consultation Fee. ---
**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2025, 2:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-wardecs-always-going-to-be-broken-is-a-fix-even-possible/473516/657 "2025-02-07T14:19:55Z")
While I find all this bickering back forth quite amusing, all things being equal, the simplest solution tends to be the correct one. Don’t anchor what you can’t defend. It’s that simple. Just like you shouldn’t undock in a 6 billion ISK Marauder or a 20 billion ISK cargo jump freighter unless you know what you are doing. EVE is about destruction. Period. Those who are unprepared or refuse to accept the consequences of their choices tend to find that out the hard way… ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2025, 2:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-wardecs-always-going-to-be-broken-is-a-fix-even-possible/473516/658 "2025-02-07T14:23:33Z")
> [@QuakeGod](#): > > Don’t anchor what you can’t defend. Which basically translates into: **Don’t build anything in high-sec**. Because there is always some null-sec alliance with larger pockets that a) doesn’t like anyone else having nice things or b) playing in “their” sandbox. The irony being that they all depend on high-sec to some extent… ---
**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2025, 2:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-wardecs-always-going-to-be-broken-is-a-fix-even-possible/473516/659 "2025-02-07T14:26:31Z")
You can build whatever you want in high, just be prepared to defend it. Case in point, I had one of my Athanors nuked a couple of months ago. Why? Because I’m a genius and left it unattended and unfueled for a couple of months. That’s on me. Other than that, I’ve never had an issue. They didn’t wardec me just to be doing it, they did it to clear that moon for someone who wanted to place an active Athanor there, which is understandable. I was fine with it, didn’t cry about it, and placed another Athanor in the region of space I was currently operating in. ---
**Author:** ![Bakster\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bakster_kane/32/460913_2.png) [@Bakster\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bakster_Kane)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2025, 2:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-wardecs-always-going-to-be-broken-is-a-fix-even-possible/473516/660 "2025-02-07T14:27:37Z")
What is the purpose of wardecs? That is first thing to figure out before trying to fix them imo ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2025, 2:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-wardecs-always-going-to-be-broken-is-a-fix-even-possible/473516/661 "2025-02-07T14:30:57Z")
> [@QuakeGod](#): > > Don’t anchor what you can’t defend. That’s way too much common sense for one day. My brain now hurts and I’m going to have to go lie down. ---
**Author:** ![Bakster\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bakster_kane/32/460913_2.png) [@Bakster\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bakster_Kane)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2025, 2:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-wardecs-always-going-to-be-broken-is-a-fix-even-possible/473516/662 "2025-02-07T14:31:54Z")
Wardecs are there so only mega corps can own structures (in high sec)? ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2025, 2:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-wardecs-always-going-to-be-broken-is-a-fix-even-possible/473516/663 "2025-02-07T14:32:52Z")
Basically, yes. At least large structures, POCOs and trading hubs. Pretty sure they’re all null-sec owned/controlled. ---
**Author:** ![Bakster\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bakster_kane/32/460913_2.png) [@Bakster\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bakster_Kane)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2025, 2:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-wardecs-always-going-to-be-broken-is-a-fix-even-possible/473516/664 "2025-02-07T14:35:09Z")
That is silly ---
**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2025, 2:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-wardecs-always-going-to-be-broken-is-a-fix-even-possible/473516/665 "2025-02-07T14:35:40Z")
Just depends on what region of space you’re operating in. If you are around the trade hubs, yeah you’re probably going to get looked at. If you are operating a mini trade hub or Athanor at the ass end of Khanid space, no one cares… ---
**Author:** ![Bakster\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bakster_kane/32/460913_2.png) [@Bakster\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bakster_Kane)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2025, 2:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-wardecs-always-going-to-be-broken-is-a-fix-even-possible/473516/666 "2025-02-07T14:36:08Z")
Small groups should be able to own structures in high sec ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2025, 2:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-wardecs-always-going-to-be-broken-is-a-fix-even-possible/473516/667 "2025-02-07T14:36:26Z")
> [@QuakeGod](#): > > If you are operating a mini trade hub or Athanor at the ass end of Khanid space, no one cares… I suspect that’s true - especially when you look at the different regions of space, ie: Amarr, Caldari, Gallente, Minmatar… ---
**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2025, 2:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-wardecs-always-going-to-be-broken-is-a-fix-even-possible/473516/668 "2025-02-07T14:36:39Z")
They can. I have several. Just don’t leave them unattended, as I found out a couple months back… ---
**Author:** ![Bakster\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bakster_kane/32/460913_2.png) [@Bakster\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bakster_Kane)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2025, 2:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-wardecs-always-going-to-be-broken-is-a-fix-even-possible/473516/669 "2025-02-07T14:38:49Z")
What is the problem then? @QuakeGod ---
**Author:** ![Bakster\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bakster_kane/32/460913_2.png) [@Bakster\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bakster_Kane)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2025, 2:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-wardecs-always-going-to-be-broken-is-a-fix-even-possible/473516/670 "2025-02-07T14:39:58Z")
Imo if you dont hold sov you should not be able to be war decced. And you should not be able to war dec others either ---
**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2025, 2:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-wardecs-always-going-to-be-broken-is-a-fix-even-possible/473516/671 "2025-02-07T14:40:01Z")
In my opinion, there isn’t one. As I said before, don’t anchor what you can’t defend. The war dec mechanic is working as intended. Just be glad it was changed from it’s prior form. Before it was changed, you could war dec anyone, for any reason, whether they owned a structure or not… ---
**Author:** ![Bakster\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bakster_kane/32/460913_2.png) [@Bakster\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bakster_Kane)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2025, 2:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-wardecs-always-going-to-be-broken-is-a-fix-even-possible/473516/672 "2025-02-07T14:40:44Z")
> [@QuakeGod](#): > > don’t anchor what you can’t defend. Do you even know what you are saying? ---
**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2025, 2:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-wardecs-always-going-to-be-broken-is-a-fix-even-possible/473516/673 "2025-02-07T14:42:07Z")
Yes, I do. EVE is a game of competition and destruction. If you’ve set up an Athanor on a valuable moon, and another group comes along and they want that moon, you’d better be prepared to defend it. ---
**Author:** ![Bakster\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bakster_kane/32/460913_2.png) [@Bakster\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bakster_Kane)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2025, 2:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-wardecs-always-going-to-be-broken-is-a-fix-even-possible/473516/674 "2025-02-07T14:44:32Z")
I dont know who thought it would be a good idea to allow players to monopolise resources in high sec in the first place The fix seems to be to allow more than one athanor per moon [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-wardecs-always-going-to-be-broken-is-a-fix-even-possible/473516.md?page=32) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-wardecs-always-going-to-be-broken-is-a-fix-even-possible/473516.md?page=34)