# Are Wardecs always going to be broken? Is a fix even possible? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [January 8, 2025, 2:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-wardecs-always-going-to-be-broken-is-a-fix-even-possible/473516 "2025-01-08T02:17:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 35
**Author:** ![Bakster\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bakster_kane/32/460913_2.png) [@Bakster\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bakster_Kane)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2025, 3:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-wardecs-always-going-to-be-broken-is-a-fix-even-possible/473516/695 "2025-02-07T15:36:07Z")
Fear monger of the year award goes to @QuakeGod even tho its Februrary ---
**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2025, 3:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-wardecs-always-going-to-be-broken-is-a-fix-even-possible/473516/696 "2025-02-07T15:36:54Z")
What fear mongering? That is exactly what would happen. There are already mining bots and market bots as it is. Take away the threat of PvP and that would increase a thousand fold… ---
**Author:** ![Bakster\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bakster_kane/32/460913_2.png) [@Bakster\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bakster_Kane)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2025, 3:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-wardecs-always-going-to-be-broken-is-a-fix-even-possible/473516/697 "2025-02-07T15:38:38Z")
An area with no PVP will not ruin the game ---
**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2025, 3:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-wardecs-always-going-to-be-broken-is-a-fix-even-possible/473516/698 "2025-02-07T15:39:48Z")
The only way that it would not affect the market or the rest of the game is if there were absolutely no resources available in that space. No mining, no missions, nothing. You want to play with your pretty space ship and station in peace? Fine, but you aren’t going to be making billions unscathed doing it… ---
**Author:** ![Bakster\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bakster_kane/32/460913_2.png) [@Bakster\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bakster_Kane)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2025, 3:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-wardecs-always-going-to-be-broken-is-a-fix-even-possible/473516/699 "2025-02-07T15:40:03Z")
Wrong ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2025, 3:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-wardecs-always-going-to-be-broken-is-a-fix-even-possible/473516/700 "2025-02-07T15:40:10Z")
> [@QuakeGod](#): > > Yes, I do. EVE is a game of competition and destruction. If you’ve set up an Athanor on a valuable moon, and another group comes along and they want that moon, you’d better be prepared to defend it. Or abandon it. I can begin anchoring a new Athanor in another system long before you blow up that one. And no- you’re not going to just warp to the new one and blow it up too because it won’t be anywhere nearby. Athanors aren’t worth defending. They’re disposable. No amount of posts on this thread will ever change the fact that they are just not worth defending. ---
**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2025, 3:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-wardecs-always-going-to-be-broken-is-a-fix-even-possible/473516/701 "2025-02-07T15:40:53Z")
On that we can agree. Athanors, as far as structures go, are dirt cheap and easily replaceable. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2025, 3:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-wardecs-always-going-to-be-broken-is-a-fix-even-possible/473516/702 "2025-02-07T15:41:44Z")
> [@Bakster\_Kane](#): > > no PVP Sure but you can earn nothing of value in those areas to maintain the risk vs reward balance. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Bakster\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bakster_kane/32/460913_2.png) [@Bakster\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bakster_Kane)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2025, 3:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-wardecs-always-going-to-be-broken-is-a-fix-even-possible/473516/703 "2025-02-07T15:41:47Z")
Resources available in areas with low risk will be abundant on the market assuming they arent rare. Low ISK / Hour ---
**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2025, 3:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-wardecs-always-going-to-be-broken-is-a-fix-even-possible/473516/704 "2025-02-07T15:43:08Z")
Yes, and players and mining bot fleets would be mining untold amounts of said material in perfect safety, placing those materials on the market, and crashing their price down to nothing… ---
**Author:** ![Bakster\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bakster_kane/32/460913_2.png) [@Bakster\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bakster_Kane)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2025, 3:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-wardecs-always-going-to-be-broken-is-a-fix-even-possible/473516/705 "2025-02-07T15:43:33Z")
Fear mongerer ---
**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2025, 3:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-wardecs-always-going-to-be-broken-is-a-fix-even-possible/473516/706 "2025-02-07T15:44:54Z")
Again, that is exactly what would happen. If I have 1 unit of Unobtainium, it’s priceless. But if there are 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 units of it on the market, it becomes all but worthless… ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2025, 3:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-wardecs-always-going-to-be-broken-is-a-fix-even-possible/473516/707 "2025-02-07T15:45:21Z")
> [@Kezrai\_Charzai](#): > > that CCP pointed out in CSM 13 Which was 2018. That’s 7 years ago…when CCP said the issue "may be discussed further by CCP at a later date " _Seven years_ to have a further discussion on an allegedly urgent issue ? I’m pretty sure if there _had_ been major further discussion since, you wouldn’t keep referring to 2018. ---
**Author:** ![Bakster\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bakster_kane/32/460913_2.png) [@Bakster\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bakster_Kane)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2025, 3:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-wardecs-always-going-to-be-broken-is-a-fix-even-possible/473516/708 "2025-02-07T15:45:49Z")
Why would Unobtanium spawn in low risk areas @QuakeGod ---
**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2025, 3:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-wardecs-always-going-to-be-broken-is-a-fix-even-possible/473516/709 "2025-02-07T15:46:23Z")
In CCP’s defense, it took them 15 years just to fix the tutorial to where new players would stop asking “How do I mine Tritanium?” ten thousand times a day in Rookie Help chat… ---
**Author:** ![Bakster\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bakster_kane/32/460913_2.png) [@Bakster\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bakster_Kane)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2025, 3:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-wardecs-always-going-to-be-broken-is-a-fix-even-possible/473516/710 "2025-02-07T15:47:41Z")
Any resource that spawns in abundance in a low risk area will be common on the market. There is nothing wrong with that ---
**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2025, 3:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-wardecs-always-going-to-be-broken-is-a-fix-even-possible/473516/711 "2025-02-07T15:47:41Z")
That would apply to common ores like Veldspar as well… ---
**Author:** ![Bakster\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bakster_kane/32/460913_2.png) [@Bakster\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bakster_Kane)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2025, 3:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-wardecs-always-going-to-be-broken-is-a-fix-even-possible/473516/712 "2025-02-07T15:48:32Z")
PVP is not the only risk in the game ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2025, 3:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-wardecs-always-going-to-be-broken-is-a-fix-even-possible/473516/713 "2025-02-07T15:48:34Z")
This below is the perfect ore to be allowed for mining in `no PvP areas`. 😉 > **[Fools Crokite | EVE Ref](https://everef.net/types/26851)** > > Crokite is a very heavy ore that is always in high demand because it has the largest ratio of nocxium for any ore in the universe. Fools Crokite on the other hand is infamous for making inexperienced 😊 ---
**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2025, 3:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-wardecs-always-going-to-be-broken-is-a-fix-even-possible/473516/714 "2025-02-07T15:49:11Z")
Let me give you a little class in Economics 101. The more you have of something, the less it is worth. That’s why the United States is experiencing record amounts of inflation because the Fed keeps printing out trillions of dollars out of thin air and placing it into the economy. When you do that, it de-values the currency… [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-wardecs-always-going-to-be-broken-is-a-fix-even-possible/473516.md?page=34) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-wardecs-always-going-to-be-broken-is-a-fix-even-possible/473516.md?page=36)