# Are Wardecs always going to be broken? Is a fix even possible? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [January 8, 2025, 2:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-wardecs-always-going-to-be-broken-is-a-fix-even-possible/473516 "2025-01-08T02:17:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 38
**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2025, 5:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-wardecs-always-going-to-be-broken-is-a-fix-even-possible/473516/755 "2025-02-10T17:17:06Z")
> [@Gloria\_Exercitus](#): > > Wardecs without structures could be as simple as naming a _system_ and an enemy corp for your war, paying Concord an exorbitant fee ( two or three billion ) and then you are free to shoot to your heart’s content within that system for 24 hours…but normal Concord rules apply outside of that one system. That’s one way to get rid of war in high sec, but there are less convoluted options. Mr Epeen 🕶 ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2025, 5:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-wardecs-always-going-to-be-broken-is-a-fix-even-possible/473516/756 "2025-02-10T17:45:06Z")
> [@Mr\_Epeen](#): > > That’s one way to get rid of war in high sec, but there are less convoluted options. It is somewhat less convoluted than all the aforementioned war bond stuff. But really, people are trying to square the circle. It is an impossible task to make wars ‘fair’. No system will ever achieve that. ---
**Author:** ![Bakster\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bakster_kane/32/460913_2.png) [@Bakster\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bakster_Kane)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2025, 5:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-wardecs-always-going-to-be-broken-is-a-fix-even-possible/473516/757 "2025-02-10T17:49:53Z")
You would have a pretty fair system if only corps and alliances that hold sov can war dec each other ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2025, 6:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-wardecs-always-going-to-be-broken-is-a-fix-even-possible/473516/758 "2025-02-10T18:47:21Z")
> [@Mr\_Epeen](#): > > That’s one way to get rid of war in high sec, but there are less convoluted options. Yeah, for example imagine if EVE would have star systems for PvP enthusiasts, just a few jumps from all the central trade hubs… where everyone could “shoot their heart’s content” 24/7 even without having to pay anything. And no magic CONCORD NPC police protecting your targets. Wouldn’t THAT be aweseome? Not sure about a name… lets call that… LowSec? NullSec? Well I think CCP will come up with something creative here. ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2025, 7:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-wardecs-always-going-to-be-broken-is-a-fix-even-possible/473516/759 "2025-02-10T19:41:22Z")
> [@Gloria\_Exercitus](#): > > But really, people are trying to square the circle. It is an impossible task to make wars ‘fair’. No system will ever achieve that. Sure there is a way. Just tell everyone that they don’t understand the square or they’re intentionally misunderstanding it. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_Deveron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/max_deveron/32/245870_2.png) [@Max\_Deveron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Max_Deveron)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2025, 2:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-wardecs-always-going-to-be-broken-is-a-fix-even-possible/473516/760 "2025-02-14T14:50:41Z")
This is why star base charters should be used… To make the nullers stay out of HS PoCo ownership…unless they want to grind for those charters instead of playing in nullsec. ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2025, 3:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-wardecs-always-going-to-be-broken-is-a-fix-even-possible/473516/761 "2025-02-14T15:08:02Z")
Null-sec. P\*ssing in everyone else’s pool for over 2 decades… ---
**Author:** ![Bakster\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bakster_kane/32/460913_2.png) [@Bakster\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bakster_Kane)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2025, 4:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-wardecs-always-going-to-be-broken-is-a-fix-even-possible/473516/762 "2025-02-14T16:09:37Z")
there is plenty of null sec alliances to join. anyone can get access to nullsec. so people who started the narrative that null-sec is evil are the actual evil ones ---
**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2025, 4:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-wardecs-always-going-to-be-broken-is-a-fix-even-possible/473516/763 "2025-02-14T16:56:19Z")
The problem isn’t being able to join the large nullsec alliances. The problem is that the players who are complaining all want their own little 3-man corp kingdom and to not get messed with. And that’s not how EVE works… ---
**Author:** ![Bakster\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bakster_kane/32/460913_2.png) [@Bakster\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bakster_Kane)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2025, 5:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-wardecs-always-going-to-be-broken-is-a-fix-even-possible/473516/764 "2025-02-14T17:10:00Z")
I just saw someone blame “null sec” for CCPs design ---
**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2025, 5:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-wardecs-always-going-to-be-broken-is-a-fix-even-possible/473516/765 "2025-02-14T17:15:12Z")
The various nullsec alliances are only that big because everyone else let them get that big. It isn’t CCP’s job to regulate how big an alliance can be or how much territory they can own. If they did that, then EVE wouldn’t be a sandbox. It’s up to the players, not CCP… ---
**Author:** ![Bakster\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bakster_kane/32/460913_2.png) [@Bakster\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bakster_Kane)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2025, 5:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-wardecs-always-going-to-be-broken-is-a-fix-even-possible/473516/766 "2025-02-14T17:32:08Z")
Players only have the tools that CCP make available, we are playing within the limitations of their design, ultimately if something is unbalanced its CCPs fault ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2025, 7:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-wardecs-always-going-to-be-broken-is-a-fix-even-possible/473516/767 "2025-02-14T19:04:40Z")
> [@Glenduil](#): > > You’re intentionally misinterpreting his proposal. Kezrai intentionally misrepresents every argument. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_Deveron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/max_deveron/32/245870_2.png) [@Max\_Deveron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Max_Deveron)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2025, 10:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-wardecs-always-going-to-be-broken-is-a-fix-even-possible/473516/768 "2025-02-14T22:40:26Z")
well if you want to go that route… CCP got rid of watchlists to protect super cap pilots logging in…nullsec CCP added cores to upwells…because of nullsec… CCP did mineral redistribution …because of nullsec having too much fun with caps. CCP temp took away LP transfers…because of nullsecrs going for certain LP store stuff when the angel titan became available. CCP changed prints last year to make certain things easier to build…cause nullsec (mostly) cried and/or stopped playing the game. and those are just the things off the top of my head ---
**Author:** ![Sandi-1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sandi-1/32/378117_2.png) [@Sandi-1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sandi-1)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2025, 7:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-wardecs-always-going-to-be-broken-is-a-fix-even-possible/473516/769 "2025-02-19T19:12:34Z")
> [@Dirk\_Kajhone](#): > > Your thoughts? HEY! YOU WANNA FIX TO YOUR PROBLEM? Since I am such a nice guy, HERE YOU GO: After war declaration, this happens: 1. ALL parties involved in war, AFTER they start shooting and for next 15 minutes after last shoot, are becoming YELLOW and can be attacked by anyone in HS. 2)ALL members of attacking corporation are banned form interacting by ANYONE else in HS and LS. Meaning, they can not sell loot nor buy extra ammo if needed, in HS and LS. They wont be able to do things, while at war. That would remove all serial war decs, that are actually gankers but do not want to get policed when they steal your sht. Why? They would be able to kill your ass( but then become yellow so we can kill them), then they would not be able to enter any stations in HS- so they wont be able to scoop the loot and then just dock back to safety of the NPC station. Then then they can not sell NOR trade the loot they take, in HS nor LS. Locking it to the char that took it AND that ship stays in space, making need to protect that ship and remove it fast from HS into NS a high priority task. High priority task I can use to gank them and steal their ■■■■. ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2025, 7:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-wardecs-always-going-to-be-broken-is-a-fix-even-possible/473516/770 "2025-02-19T19:14:27Z")
> [@Max\_Deveron](#): > > and those are just the things off the top of my head **Null-sec**. Ruining EVE since at least 2015. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2025, 7:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-wardecs-always-going-to-be-broken-is-a-fix-even-possible/473516/771 "2025-05-20T19:14:48Z")
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