# Are You Planning to Vote for CSM? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Tags:** csm\ **Created:** [October 3, 2025, 4:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-you-planning-to-vote-for-csm/498646 "2025-10-03T16:19:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Drake\_Iddon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drake_iddon/32/412757_2.png) [@Drake\_Iddon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Drake_Iddon)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2025, 10:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-you-planning-to-vote-for-csm/498646/42 "2025-10-06T22:31:28Z")
![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/1/5/e/15e353953b0d2088d1a087ef58dbe0a45f141098.png) thats the spirit ---
**Author:** ![Mark\_Matthew](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mark_matthew/32/461531_2.png) [@Mark\_Matthew](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mark_Matthew)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2025, 10:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-you-planning-to-vote-for-csm/498646/43 "2025-10-06T22:55:40Z")
> [@Drake\_Iddon](#): > > the spirit Working for free? That’s literally the funniest thing I can think of. Good boy. _pats head_ ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2025, 11:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-you-planning-to-vote-for-csm/498646/44 "2025-10-06T23:20:35Z")
So you cheated ? ---
**Author:** ![Malak\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malak_starfire/32/501915_2.png) [@Malak\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malak_Starfire)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2025, 11:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-you-planning-to-vote-for-csm/498646/45 "2025-10-06T23:23:37Z")
Voting with multiple omega accounts is allowed ---
**Author:** ![Mark\_Matthew](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mark_matthew/32/461531_2.png) [@Mark\_Matthew](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mark_Matthew)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2025, 11:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-you-planning-to-vote-for-csm/498646/46 "2025-10-06T23:25:35Z")
> [@Malak\_Starfire](#): > > is allowed Sounds like cheating to me. It’s the opposite of “buying a vote”…and yet, the same. ---
**Author:** ![Malak\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malak_starfire/32/501915_2.png) [@Malak\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malak_Starfire)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2025, 11:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-you-planning-to-vote-for-csm/498646/47 "2025-10-06T23:27:03Z")
You can not like it all you want (I don’t), but the fact that CCP allows it means that it is not cheating as it’s literally in the rules. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2025, 11:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-you-planning-to-vote-for-csm/498646/48 "2025-10-06T23:28:23Z")
Which means that they are only interested in giving a say to those with the most money. ---
**Author:** ![Malak\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malak_starfire/32/501915_2.png) [@Malak\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malak_Starfire)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2025, 11:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-you-planning-to-vote-for-csm/498646/49 "2025-10-06T23:29:36Z")
Considering you can’t vote as an Alpha…yes that is obvious ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2025, 11:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-you-planning-to-vote-for-csm/498646/50 "2025-10-06T23:38:48Z")
Seeing as CCP don’t care who the players want as a CSM, just the richest players, it is clear that the role of the CSM is not to perform a necessary customer service role, but to pander to the whalebears ---
**Author:** ![Malak\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malak_starfire/32/501915_2.png) [@Malak\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malak_Starfire)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2025, 12:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-you-planning-to-vote-for-csm/498646/51 "2025-10-07T00:12:30Z")
> [@Zaera\_Keena](#): > > CSM is not to perform a necessary customer service role Right, CSM does NOT do customer service. They provide feedback to CCP. ---
**Author:** ![Mark\_Matthew](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mark_matthew/32/461531_2.png) [@Mark\_Matthew](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mark_Matthew)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2025, 12:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-you-planning-to-vote-for-csm/498646/52 "2025-10-07T00:39:43Z")
> [@Malak\_Starfire](#): > > They provide feedback to CCP. Even that is a stretch. ---
**Author:** ![Malak\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malak_starfire/32/501915_2.png) [@Malak\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malak_Starfire)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2025, 12:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-you-planning-to-vote-for-csm/498646/53 "2025-10-07T00:46:24Z")
Deny reality all you want, those of us with eyes can see what the last CSM has done. ---
**Author:** ![Mark\_Matthew](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mark_matthew/32/461531_2.png) [@Mark\_Matthew](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mark_Matthew)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2025, 11:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-you-planning-to-vote-for-csm/498646/54 "2025-10-07T11:35:04Z")
> [@Malak\_Starfire](#): > > those of us with eyes can see **Perception** is the process by which each person interprets and makes sense of the world through their own mental “lens.” That lens is shaped by their experiences, beliefs, culture, emotions, and expectations. Two people can look at the exact same situation and see something entirely different because they’re not just seeing with their eyes; they’re seeing through everything that’s ever influenced how they think and feel. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2025, 1:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-you-planning-to-vote-for-csm/498646/55 "2025-10-07T13:08:20Z")
You are arguing with ChatGPT. Just block it. ---
**Author:** ![Malak\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malak_starfire/32/501915_2.png) [@Malak\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malak_Starfire)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2025, 6:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-you-planning-to-vote-for-csm/498646/56 "2025-10-07T18:32:01Z")
Amazing how you can see 16 pages of changes that got pushed through by ONE CSM member in almost a year and say that it’s nothing. You may not like the changes, but we are not debating that. We are talking about if the CSM does anything. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2025, 5:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-you-planning-to-vote-for-csm/498646/57 "2025-10-10T17:11:13Z")
If it does not benefit me , it is nothing. Before pushing anything through , the CSM should consult **Zaera** ![bored](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/4/5/f/45fba527ed06dd87a6992be56beb9bd07906864b.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Rocket\_Hellfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rocket_hellfire/32/396905_2.png) [@Rocket\_Hellfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rocket_Hellfire)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2025, 7:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-you-planning-to-vote-for-csm/498646/58 "2025-10-10T19:03:53Z")
No. It’s always SSDD. Nothing changes except for the big blocs who mass vote for their own to push their own agenda. CSM is meaningless. Make all the claims you want, it’s true. You know it, I know it, EVERYBODY knows it. ---
**Author:** ![Malak\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malak_starfire/32/501915_2.png) [@Malak\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malak_Starfire)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2025, 7:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-you-planning-to-vote-for-csm/498646/59 "2025-10-10T19:36:06Z")
> [@Rocket\_Hellfire](#): > > Nothing changes except for the big blocs who mass vote for their own to push their own agenda. Nothing stops people in High sec doing the same, if you can’t get votes, you don’t get elected. ---
**Author:** ![Aallin\_Gicquet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aallin_gicquet/32/510703_2.png) [@Aallin\_Gicquet](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aallin_Gicquet)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2025, 7:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-you-planning-to-vote-for-csm/498646/60 "2025-10-10T19:59:50Z")
[quote=“Rocket Hellfire, post:58, topic:498646, username:Rocket\_Hellfire”] It’s always SSDD. Nothing changes except for the big blocs who mass vote for their own to push their own agenda. [/quote] To echo Malak. Highsec needs to get together and back a candidate. That is the way it works. Currently the best one, strictly my opinion, is Mike. > [@Rocket\_Hellfire](#): > > You know it, I know it, EVERYBODY knows it. That is a pretty broad stroke of the brush. If you want change as in anything in this game. Work towards it. Yes, Goons elect their own. He has done a good job of trying to keep highsec from being forgotten, but he needs help. Yes the big alliances do have the numbers. The problem with highsec more than low or null is that there is not a unity. A lot of casual player, new players, and players like yourself that fail to understand. If you think something is useless. It becomes that. Apathy is what the low and nullsec alliances depend on to push their candidates through. But if highsec flips the script and actually a lot more vote. People such as Mike gets in. Mike has been on the CSM before. He has shown it is possible. But apathy is not going to get anyone anywhere. I am not saying it would be easy or that simple, but working towards it. Can increase the odds and pay dividends. As other candidates realize that Highsec does have muscle. And highsec suddenly become important and gets the same love. But apathy is guarantee of being self fulfilling prophecy. Why bother and so no one does. Highsec becomes even more of an after thought. We have a problem with new player retention. Apathy is going to make that worse. We need a candidates like Mike in their pitching for highsec. We need candidates that do more than give lip service to highsec. Then forget highsec once on the CSM. I am not saying every candidate does that, but enough apparently have at one time or another. Mike might just be the candidate that makes the devs sit up and take notice. At the same time we have to manage expectations. If Mike gets on the CSM or he and I do next year. Change is going to be slow. It is not going to happen as fast we would like. But the shifts have to start somewhere. This election could start to see that shift start with Mike being elected. But apathy will guarantee that nothing changes. I find that unacceptable. ---
**Author:** ![Anabella\_Rella](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anabella_rella/32/515671_2.png) [@Anabella\_Rella](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anabella_Rella)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2025, 1:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-you-planning-to-vote-for-csm/498646/61 "2025-10-11T01:21:32Z")
Even though I have very little faith in CCP listening to the CSM’s input and I hate that the panel is dominated by the big null blocs, I am planning to vote. Hope springs eternal. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-you-planning-to-vote-for-csm/498646.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/are-you-planning-to-vote-for-csm/498646.md?page=4)