# Arrests of Mikramurka Defense Officials

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arrests-of-mikramurka-defense-officials/175436>\
**Category:** Intergalactic Summit\
**Created:** [July 15, 2019, 8:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arrests-of-mikramurka-defense-officials/175436 "2019-07-15T20:39:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Melisma\_Ramijozana](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/melisma_ramijozana/32/168474_2.png) [@Melisma\_Ramijozana](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Melisma_Ramijozana)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 7:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arrests-of-mikramurka-defense-officials/175436/281 "2019-07-31T19:11:42Z")

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> [@Arrendis](#):
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> and goes and fucks the Empress

I fixed it for you.

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**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 7:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arrests-of-mikramurka-defense-officials/175436/282 "2019-07-31T19:22:47Z")

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I always get yelled at when I talk about Shakor being the Empress’ baby-daddy.

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**Author:** ![Melisma\_Ramijozana](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/melisma_ramijozana/32/168474_2.png) [@Melisma\_Ramijozana](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Melisma_Ramijozana)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 8:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arrests-of-mikramurka-defense-officials/175436/283 "2019-07-31T20:14:56Z")

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Then I guess we’re about to be yelled at together, because IT’S THE TRUTH.

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**Author:** ![Arsia\_Elkin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arsia_elkin/32/388703_2.png) [@Arsia\_Elkin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arsia_Elkin)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 8:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arrests-of-mikramurka-defense-officials/175436/284 "2019-07-31T20:48:57Z")

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> [@Arrendis](#):
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> I always get yelled at when I talk about Shakor being the Empress’ baby-daddy.

> [@Melisma\_Ramijozana](#):
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> Then I guess we’re about to be yelled at together, because IT’S THE TRUTH.

Yes, you _are_ about to be yelled at together.

While the fact that Shakor attends high-profile functions with the Empress may very well mean there is foul play on the part of Shakor, I don’t think it’s very likely to mean they’re _together._

I know that if _I_ was trying to keep such a relationship quiet, I wouldn’t be dragging them everywhere causing speculation like that. And well, it seems pretty obvious to avoid such displays. Two intelligent individuals like Empress Catiz I and Shakor would _most likely_ also realize that.

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**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 8:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arrests-of-mikramurka-defense-officials/175436/285 "2019-07-31T20:51:09Z")

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> [@Arsia\_Elkin](#):
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> I know that if _I_ was trying to keep such a relationship quiet, I wouldn’t be dragging them everywhere causing speculation like that. And well, it seems pretty obvious to avoid such displays. Two intelligent individuals like Empress Catiz I and Shakor would _most likely_ also realize that.

Exactly. Which is why it’s the perfect cover! They’re too obvious! Who in their right mind could think they’re really up to something? **Nobody!** So they’ll get away with it…

Now if only we had some pesky kids and a mangy mutt…

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**Author:** ![Melisma\_Ramijozana](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/melisma_ramijozana/32/168474_2.png) [@Melisma\_Ramijozana](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Melisma_Ramijozana)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 9:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arrests-of-mikramurka-defense-officials/175436/286 "2019-07-31T21:04:36Z")

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It’s the perfect arrangement! Just tenuous enough to make loyalists on both sides fall into the trap!

But some of us _know better._

What’s the ship name? Cator? Shakiz?

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**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 9:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arrests-of-mikramurka-defense-officials/175436/287 "2019-07-31T21:06:30Z")

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I refuse to give **Kittens & The Shak-man** a ship-name.

Especially since it’s completely true to point out that _Aldrith Shutaq_ may or may not himself be in an illicit and torrid love triangle with the both of them!

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**Author:** ![Melisma\_Ramijozana](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/melisma_ramijozana/32/168474_2.png) [@Melisma\_Ramijozana](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Melisma_Ramijozana)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 9:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arrests-of-mikramurka-defense-officials/175436/288 "2019-07-31T21:10:56Z")

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Slashfic writers, I summon thee!

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**Author:** ![Kalaratiri](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kalaratiri/32/477189_2.png) [@Kalaratiri](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kalaratiri)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 11:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arrests-of-mikramurka-defense-officials/175436/289 "2019-07-31T23:41:36Z")

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> [@Kril\_Efrit](#):
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> kin-slayers

You and yours would know _nothing_ about that.

> [@Kril\_Efrit](#):
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> There is more to the Tribal Republic than “laws”, for there is also tradition.

Tradition does not _outweigh_ the laws of the Republic.

> [@Kril\_Efrit](#):
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> You have witnessed nothing more or less than the due process of Tribal law _and_ tradition. Yet you have complained and screeched your slanders at every step.

Speaking of tradition, I suppose it’s traditional for you Efrits to declare any questioning of your Tribe’s intentions as “slander”? You’ve certainly got the old man’s style down well.

> [@Kril\_Efrit](#):
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> Tribal sovereignty has been upheld. This is our way.

It has been upheld _despite_ your people’s efforts to disrupt it at every turn.

> [@Kril\_Efrit](#):
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> Those who work to ensure the security of Matar, and all our worlds, are certain that the old ways will see justice done in this matter.

Going to murder some more kin before they can talk huh? And call it “justice”?

> [@Kril\_Efrit](#):
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> Kril Efrit,  
> Matar Planetary Security

Exactly how deep in the Krusual’s pocket is the MPS? Nepotism is nothing new in the Republic, but appointing an _Efrit_, _now_, to _this_ organisation? That’s some eyebrow raising ■■■■ right there.

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**Author:** ![Kalaratiri](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kalaratiri/32/477189_2.png) [@Kalaratiri](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kalaratiri)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 1:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arrests-of-mikramurka-defense-officials/175436/290 "2019-08-01T13:52:47Z")

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> [@Kalaratiri](#):
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> > Those who work to ensure the security of Matar, and all our worlds, are certain that the old ways will see justice done in this matter.
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> Going to murder some more kin before they can talk huh? And call it “justice”?

Oh how I hate to be right.

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**Author:** ![Samira\_Kernher](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/samira_kernher/32/244840_2.png) [@Samira\_Kernher](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Samira_Kernher)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 1:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arrests-of-mikramurka-defense-officials/175436/291 "2019-08-01T13:59:04Z")

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> [@Kalaratiri](#):
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> Going to murder some more kin before they can talk huh? And call it “justice”?

Called it.

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**Author:** ![Teinyhr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teinyhr/32/374406_2.png) [@Teinyhr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teinyhr)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 2:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arrests-of-mikramurka-defense-officials/175436/292 "2019-08-01T14:46:08Z")

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> [@Kalaratiri](#):
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> Oh how I hate to be right.

Or maybe you were behind the attack? Continuing with the brainstorming, you seem to have switched allegiances conveniently. Maybe you’re going to make the Sundsele Six disappear in null or wherever it is your new home is.

I mean, surely your new assignment is just a coincidence. One of those awfully convenient coincidences, but…

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**Author:** ![Kalaratiri](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kalaratiri/32/477189_2.png) [@Kalaratiri](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kalaratiri)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 2:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arrests-of-mikramurka-defense-officials/175436/293 "2019-08-01T14:49:40Z")

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This is incredibly low effort. Upwell structure logs will happily confirm that I have spent the last 24 hours or so in J133632. My corporation and my _allegiances_ are not the same thing.

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**Author:** ![Teinyhr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teinyhr/32/374406_2.png) [@Teinyhr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teinyhr)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 2:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arrests-of-mikramurka-defense-officials/175436/294 "2019-08-01T14:50:57Z")

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> [@Kalaratiri](#):
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> Upwell structure logs will happily confirm that I have spent the last 24 hours or so in J133632.

I didn’t suggest you were there with an RPG in hand yourself. But you know people who could pull this off. And now you have a place to make people disappear.

> [@Kalaratiri](#):
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> My corporation and my _allegiances_ are not the same thing.

Maybe not. But your allegiances, or should I say, my belief in your loyalty towards your Tribe or the Minmatar as people a has been in question for a long time. You seem to keep “questionable” company a lot. Of course Kahah kill records prove nothing, maybe you were just opportunistically shooting uh, at Elsebeth, among other people.

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**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 3:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arrests-of-mikramurka-defense-officials/175436/295 "2019-08-01T15:21:21Z")

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Stop bickering like siblings who both want the last drumstick.

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**Author:** ![Teinyhr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teinyhr/32/374406_2.png) [@Teinyhr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teinyhr)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 3:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arrests-of-mikramurka-defense-officials/175436/296 "2019-08-01T15:36:19Z")

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But she _started_ it!

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**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 4:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arrests-of-mikramurka-defense-officials/175436/297 "2019-08-01T16:26:18Z")

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IF YOU DON’T BOTH BEHAVE SO HELP ME I SWEAR I WILL TURN THIS FORUM AROUND AND GO HOME.

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**Author:** ![Constantly\_Outraged\_Sebiestor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/constantly_outraged_sebiestor/32/417519_2.png) [@Constantly\_Outraged\_Sebiestor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Constantly_Outraged_Sebiestor)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 5:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arrests-of-mikramurka-defense-officials/175436/298 "2019-08-01T17:55:40Z")

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I was hoping that @Kril_Efrit might have been able to provide some answers to the questions I had asked. Answers that might have reassured our outerworlds clans.

Instead, we learn another group of paramilitaries have staged an attack on Matar security forces. We learn that bands of masked militants seemingly roam the surface of our ancestral world, attacking and killing our kinspeople at will.

Planetary Security ? Planetary Insecurity more like. What is _happening_ down there ?

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**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 6:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arrests-of-mikramurka-defense-officials/175436/299 "2019-08-01T18:03:14Z")

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Shakor’s directly in charge of all Republic Security and Public Order agencies. Ask him.

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**Author:** ![Aeron\_Morningstar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aeron_morningstar/32/140723_2.png) [@Aeron\_Morningstar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aeron_Morningstar)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2019, 9:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arrests-of-mikramurka-defense-officials/175436/300 "2019-08-01T21:08:10Z")

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> [@Melisma\_Ramijozana](#):
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> If this is meant to suggest that Chief Morningstar will lend his support, we’ll be glad to have him.

Is it too much to ask for you to schedule a meeting with us at Rhiannon Spear? I very much to run planetary business on the actual planet and leave capsuleer tools to capsuleer jobs.

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