# Arrests of Mikramurka Defense Officials

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**Category:** Intergalactic Summit\
**Created:** [July 15, 2019, 8:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arrests-of-mikramurka-defense-officials/175436 "2019-07-15T20:39:19Z")\
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**Author:** ![Melisma\_Ramijozana](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/melisma_ramijozana/32/168474_2.png) [@Melisma\_Ramijozana](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Melisma_Ramijozana)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2019, 12:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/arrests-of-mikramurka-defense-officials/175436/179 "2019-07-19T12:43:08Z")

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> [@Teinyhr](#):
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> blah blah blah

You know what? I’m tired of trying to engage you here, and I’m not going to enable your manipulations. I’ve already made my point. You’re the problem.

> [@Seraphea\_Vellastraan](#):
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> This deserves to be said so many times.

I don’t disagree at all. In fact, the points Arrendis made about how the Empire operates serve as a balance to what I said. I suggested that the more openminded Amarr could be a force for change. Taken to its logical endpoint, that’s a change towards democracy.

And if you think that the Republic is any more democratic than the Empire, then you’re in for a surprise. We aren’t. The only difference between them and us right now is that we don’t tie any religion into our government.

> [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](#):
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> Listen, if military reclaiming is off the table and the Mary are staying on their side of the border and being absolutely zero threat, _why are they even mentioned, let alone participating_ in this discussion?

This is a little hypocritical. We pop up in threads about Empire internal affairs all the time, whether to fan the flames or actually engage in rhetoric.

> [@Arrendis](#):
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> Maybe you shouldn’t have publicly done your level best to kowtow to Chakaid time and again.

This is a good point, Newelle. The last time you kissed ass here on IGS, it was so gross that even your peers called you on it. You can’t have this both ways.

> [@Samira\_Kernher](#):
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> The Republic was the first hit by Deathglow attacks,

How much does it matter who got hit first? The end result is, we have a common goal and a common enemy. We ought to make use of that, even if only for efficiency’s sake.

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