# Aset liberated. What will the Republic do?

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/aset-liberated-what-will-the-republic-do/218734>\
**Category:** Intergalactic Summit\
**Tags:** faction-war\
**Created:** [February 10, 2020, 8:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/aset-liberated-what-will-the-republic-do/218734 "2020-02-10T20:36:12Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Komi\_Valentine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/komi_valentine/32/502956_2.png) [@Komi\_Valentine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Komi_Valentine)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 11:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/aset-liberated-what-will-the-republic-do/218734/21 "2020-02-11T11:48:42Z")

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Stop fighting! Every single one of you has blood on their hands. How many stations and ships have you all destroyed? How many lifes taken?  
_looks at @Elsebeth_Rhiannon and @Anna_Stjornauga challenging_

Ushra’Khan isn’t innocent of cruelties, but you are neither. How dare you judge them after all the risks they have taken for the republic?  
It’s hard to accept, but without fighting and the sacrifice of our ancestors we would all be enslaved.

I think Ushra’Khan is strong for admitting their flaws and standing to it. They are sacrificing everything even their sanity (as you can clearly see) to help the republic…

I don’t like the war, but It’s reality! ☹  
I just wish the war could end right now and nobody would waste their lives on such cruelties 😢

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**Author:** ![Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elsebeth_rhiannon/32/418836_2.png) [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elsebeth_Rhiannon)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 11:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/aset-liberated-what-will-the-republic-do/218734/22 "2020-02-11T11:51:41Z")

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> [@Komi\_Valentine](#):
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> Ushra’Khan isn’t innocent of cruelties, but you are neither.

Makes me wish I was still in Gradient so I could just with good grace quote you the original slogan of the organization I represent.

There are shades of grey. Just because I cannot fight a war without casualties does _not_ mean I should accept any and all senseless and useless atrocities against civilians.

And neither should you.

> [@Komi\_Valentine](#):
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> How dare you judge them after all the risks they have taken for the republic?

Just watch me.

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**Author:** ![Pol\_Macsliebh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pol_macsliebh/32/376245_2.png) [@Pol\_Macsliebh](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pol_Macsliebh)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 12:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/aset-liberated-what-will-the-republic-do/218734/23 "2020-02-11T12:40:11Z")

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Diana “Not a leg to stand on” Kim, you are right with one point… No imaginary rights will save my sore ass.

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**Author:** ![Komi\_Valentine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/komi_valentine/32/502956_2.png) [@Komi\_Valentine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Komi_Valentine)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 12:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/aset-liberated-what-will-the-republic-do/218734/24 "2020-02-11T12:46:18Z")

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> [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](#):
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> And neither should you.

I’m not supporting it in any way. I think it’s gross and cruel. I don’t know him, but I fear for the sanity of Harkon Thorson. So should I just stay silent while you’re attacking him or should I step up for a brother?!

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**Author:** ![Anna\_Stjornauga](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anna_stjornauga/32/377304_2.png) [@Anna\_Stjornauga](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anna_Stjornauga)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 12:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/aset-liberated-what-will-the-republic-do/218734/25 "2020-02-11T12:48:25Z")

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> [@Komi\_Valentine](#):
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> How dare you judge them after all the risks they have taken for the republic?

Rather like this:

You are as much a simple-minded fool as Pol is an idiot who lets his bloodlust convince him that he should do stupid things.

Ushra’Khan has taken no risks for the Republic. None. They have taken _some_ risks for the Minmatar _people_, but over the years, one of the things they have been pleasantly consistent about is not giving a fedo fart about the construct of government and laws we call ‘The _Republic_’. After all, they’re the ones who famously put a bounty on the head of the Ray of Matar.

Killing non-combatants is not war, it is murder. It is _cowardice_. And attempting to conflate the actions of desperate, largely destitute slaves during an uprising with those of _capsuleers_, possessing functionally limitless resources as they come down from space for the express purpose of slaughtering unarmed civilians… as I said: you are a simple-minded fool.

> [@Pol\_Macsliebh](#):
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> I personally find these actions peaceful… like a Shepard.

I am no shepherd. When necessary, I am an instrument of my Chieftain’s will. When called upon, I am a killer of _enemies_, not _children_. And when possible, I am a reasonably adept hand at storytelling, as I learn my grandmother’s lessons and wisdom, that they might continue when she is gone. But at all times, I am Stjörnauga. We refuse to give the Amarr the victory of letting them make us into animals. It’s a pity you _wallow_ in being what they _want_ you to be.

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**Author:** ![Komi\_Valentine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/komi_valentine/32/502956_2.png) [@Komi\_Valentine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Komi_Valentine)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 1:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/aset-liberated-what-will-the-republic-do/218734/26 "2020-02-11T13:24:22Z")

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> [@Anna\_Stjornauga](#):
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> Ushra’Khan has taken no risks for the Republic. None. They have taken _some_ risks for the Minmatar _people_

I see no difference in citizens of the republic and Minmatar who are not born with the privilege to live here. Everyone of our blood deserves to be free!

I might be a little naive but I’m not stupid. -\_-

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**Author:** ![Anna\_Stjornauga](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anna_stjornauga/32/377304_2.png) [@Anna\_Stjornauga](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anna_Stjornauga)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 1:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/aset-liberated-what-will-the-republic-do/218734/27 "2020-02-11T13:25:53Z")

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> [@Komi\_Valentine](#):
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> I see no difference in citizens of the republic and Minmatar who are not born with the privilege to live here.

I wasn’t speaking of _citizens of the Republic_. There is a difference between the _people_, and the _political entity_.

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**Author:** ![Pol\_Macsliebh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pol_macsliebh/32/376245_2.png) [@Pol\_Macsliebh](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pol_Macsliebh)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 1:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/aset-liberated-what-will-the-republic-do/218734/28 "2020-02-11T13:30:41Z")

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You fail to see the big picture Anna… we all have our part to play as you play your part now. If you believe I am a simple minded barbaric fool who eats children, and we are on the same “side” of the fence! then my work here is done.

_smiles and turns off Neocom_

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**Author:** ![Anna\_Stjornauga](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anna_stjornauga/32/377304_2.png) [@Anna\_Stjornauga](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anna_Stjornauga)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 1:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/aset-liberated-what-will-the-republic-do/218734/29 "2020-02-11T13:32:43Z")

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I believe you are a hotheaded fool who has let the Amarr make him into a recruiting poster and a justification for ever tighter crackdowns and oppression. Sarum and Chakaid must truly love you.

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**Author:** ![Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elsebeth_rhiannon/32/418836_2.png) [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elsebeth_Rhiannon)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 1:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/aset-liberated-what-will-the-republic-do/218734/30 "2020-02-11T13:36:18Z")

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> [@Komi\_Valentine](#):
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> I don’t know him, but I fear for the sanity of Harkon Thorson. So should I just stay silent while you’re attacking him or should I step up for a brother?!

For the record, I _do_ in fact know Harkon Thorson, and _my_ right to call him “brother” I have earned by more than just sharing tribal blood.

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**Author:** ![Red\_Roman\_Joringer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/red_roman_joringer/32/181976_2.png) [@Red\_Roman\_Joringer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Red_Roman_Joringer)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 1:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/aset-liberated-what-will-the-republic-do/218734/31 "2020-02-11T13:51:31Z")

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Don’t see why we have to put up with every level of ■■■■■■■■ just because someone happens to be born to the same arbitrary genetic ancestors. Tolerating a bunch of blood-guzzling vampires because they’re ‘Matari’ is how you get Blooder highways to Mikramurka in the first ■■■■■■■ place.

■■■■, that’s why most of the Amarr fall all over each other to kill that Nauplius punk.

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**Author:** ![Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elsebeth_rhiannon/32/418836_2.png) [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elsebeth_Rhiannon)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 1:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/aset-liberated-what-will-the-republic-do/218734/32 "2020-02-11T13:52:25Z")

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> [@Red\_Roman\_Joringer](#):
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> ■■■■, that’s why most of the Amarr fall all over each other to kill that Nauplius punk.

Not doing to effective job at it though, considering he’s still alive and invited to parties under hospitality.

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**Author:** ![Red\_Roman\_Joringer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/red_roman_joringer/32/181976_2.png) [@Red\_Roman\_Joringer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Red_Roman_Joringer)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 1:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/aset-liberated-what-will-the-republic-do/218734/33 "2020-02-11T13:55:17Z")

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And when are you gonna try to gouge Pol’s eyes out with a ■■■■■■■ spoon at one?

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**Author:** ![Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elsebeth_rhiannon/32/418836_2.png) [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elsebeth_Rhiannon)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 1:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/aset-liberated-what-will-the-republic-do/218734/34 "2020-02-11T13:57:08Z")

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If I ever end up wanting to kill Pol Macsliebh, gods keep me from that Fate, I assure you I will do something completely different than try and attack him with _a spoon_ under _someone else’s hospitality_.

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**Author:** ![Anna\_Stjornauga](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anna_stjornauga/32/377304_2.png) [@Anna\_Stjornauga](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anna_Stjornauga)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 2:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/aset-liberated-what-will-the-republic-do/218734/35 "2020-02-11T14:00:25Z")

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> [@Red\_Roman\_Joringer](#):
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> Don’t see why we have to put up with every level of ■■■■■■■■ just because someone happens to be born to the same arbitrary genetic ancestors.

Because kin is kin, and if yours didn’t teach you that well enough, they failed you.

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**Author:** ![Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elsebeth_rhiannon/32/418836_2.png) [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elsebeth_Rhiannon)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 2:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/aset-liberated-what-will-the-republic-do/218734/36 "2020-02-11T14:01:34Z")

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> [@Anna\_Stjornauga](#):
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> Because kin is kin, and if yours didn’t teach you that well enough, they failed you.

Records show him as an outcast, so likely they didn’t.

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**Author:** ![Red\_Roman\_Joringer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/red_roman_joringer/32/181976_2.png) [@Red\_Roman\_Joringer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Red_Roman_Joringer)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 2:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/aset-liberated-what-will-the-republic-do/218734/37 "2020-02-11T14:04:26Z")

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Well, they’re dead, and our ‘kin’ killed them over some superstitious nonsense, so you’ll have to excuse me if I don’t buy yinz guys’ ■■■■■■■ ■■■■■■■■ for a second.

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**Author:** ![Anna\_Stjornauga](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anna_stjornauga/32/377304_2.png) [@Anna\_Stjornauga](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anna_Stjornauga)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 2:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/aset-liberated-what-will-the-republic-do/218734/38 "2020-02-11T14:09:19Z")

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> [@Red\_Roman\_Joringer](#):
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> Well, they’re dead, and our ‘kin’ killed them over some superstitious nonsense

Then why should I care enough about what you think to not simply block you?

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**Author:** ![Red\_Roman\_Joringer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/red_roman_joringer/32/181976_2.png) [@Red\_Roman\_Joringer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Red_Roman_Joringer)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 2:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/aset-liberated-what-will-the-republic-do/218734/39 "2020-02-11T14:23:01Z")

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The ■■■■ do you pretend you care what I think now? I keep telling you people you don’t want to ■■■■■■■ know what I say. You’ll suck off Diana ■■■■■■■ Kim, but believe me, you don’t wanna ■■■■■■■ listen to me.

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**Author:** ![Lunarisse\_Aspenstar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lunarisse_aspenstar/32/478487_2.png) [@Lunarisse\_Aspenstar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lunarisse_Aspenstar)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 2:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/aset-liberated-what-will-the-republic-do/218734/40 "2020-02-11T14:33:56Z")

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Not Amarr ones.

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