# Aset liberated. What will the Republic do?

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/aset-liberated-what-will-the-republic-do/218734>\
**Category:** Intergalactic Summit\
**Tags:** faction-war\
**Created:** [February 10, 2020, 8:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/aset-liberated-what-will-the-republic-do/218734 "2020-02-10T20:36:12Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Gah\_Matar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gah_matar/32/383620_2.png) [@Gah\_Matar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gah_Matar)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 2:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/aset-liberated-what-will-the-republic-do/218734/41 "2020-02-11T14:35:25Z")

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Harkon, your claim of victory is premature. You hold Aset and Flos now. Good luck keeping them.

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**Author:** ![Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elsebeth_rhiannon/32/418836_2.png) [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elsebeth_Rhiannon)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 2:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/aset-liberated-what-will-the-republic-do/218734/42 "2020-02-11T14:35:37Z")

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> [@Lunarisse\_Aspenstar](#):
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> Not Amarr ones.

Depends on definition of ‘Amarr’, strongly, here.

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**Author:** ![Harkon\_Thorson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/harkon_thorson/32/320172_2.png) [@Harkon\_Thorson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Harkon_Thorson)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 5:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/aset-liberated-what-will-the-republic-do/218734/43 "2020-02-11T17:47:56Z")

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The slavers set a new precident for the warzone and all the proud and brave Amarrians that fought in this campagne have have signed up to it by supporting Sarums actions one way or the other. They might hide behind duty or the greater picture but in the end they all confirmed one rule for everyone:  
**There are no civilians in this war.**  
All Minmatar must be killed or enslaved. There is no honorable surrender. No refugees. Just the dead and the slaves are to remain.  
This truth must dawn on even the most naive Matari. The Ushra’Khan has seen it years ago.

So call me a coward. A terrorist. A madman.  
I am but a man of conviction that will do everything for his people.

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**Author:** ![Cain\_Aloga](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cain_aloga/32/457080_2.png) [@Cain\_Aloga](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cain_Aloga)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 5:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/aset-liberated-what-will-the-republic-do/218734/44 "2020-02-11T17:50:26Z")

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I would go further to say, for those that may be concerned, that there are no reports of Amarrian Civilians on the surface of Floseswin. All Amarr on the planet are combatants.

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**Author:** ![Red\_Roman\_Joringer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/red_roman_joringer/32/181976_2.png) [@Red\_Roman\_Joringer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Red_Roman_Joringer)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 6:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/aset-liberated-what-will-the-republic-do/218734/45 "2020-02-11T18:14:37Z")

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> [@Harkon\_Thorson](#):
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> The slavers set a new precident for the warzone and all the proud and brave Amarrians that fought in this campagne have have signed up to it by supporting Sarums actions one way or the other. They might hide behind duty or the greater picture but in the end they all confirmed one rule for everyone:  
> **There are no civilians in this war.**  
> All Minmatar must be killed or enslaved. There is no honorable surrender. No refugees. Just the dead and the slaves are to remain.  
> This truth must dawn on even the most naive Matari. The Ushra’Khan has seen it years ago.
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> So call me a coward. A terrorist. A madman.  
> I am but a man of conviction that will do everything for his people.

If only someone had been able to look into the future and know that manipulating and enabling a bunch of ■■■■■■■ psychotics to get what everyone wanted was going to probably get a lot of innocent people killed…

[Oh wait.](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/petition-to-the-throne-imperial-majesty-catiz-i/196789)

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**Author:** ![Anna\_Stjornauga](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anna_stjornauga/32/377304_2.png) [@Anna\_Stjornauga](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anna_Stjornauga)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 6:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/aset-liberated-what-will-the-republic-do/218734/46 "2020-02-11T18:26:18Z")

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> [@Harkon\_Thorson](#):
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> The slavers set a new precident for the warzone and all the proud and brave Amarrians that fought in this campagne have have signed up to it by supporting Sarums actions one way or the other. They might hide behind duty or the greater picture but in the end they all confirmed one rule for everyone:  
> **There are no civilians in this war.**

**Only if you sink to their level.** So congratulations, Harkon Thorson, on letting the Amarr remake you in their image. You are a shining testament to their god’s declaration that _all_ shall become Amarr. So, yes, I call you a terrorist, and a coward.

And _Amarr_.

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**Author:** ![Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elsebeth_rhiannon/32/418836_2.png) [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elsebeth_Rhiannon)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 6:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/aset-liberated-what-will-the-republic-do/218734/47 "2020-02-11T18:31:05Z")

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> [@Anna\_Stjornauga](#):
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> And _Amarr_ .

I think that’s quite enough.

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**Author:** ![Pol\_Macsliebh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pol_macsliebh/32/376245_2.png) [@Pol\_Macsliebh](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pol_Macsliebh)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 6:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/aset-liberated-what-will-the-republic-do/218734/48 "2020-02-11T18:34:51Z")

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This is comical… Attacks and insults from our Brothers and Sisters. The Amarr almost silent, What a farce.

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**Author:** ![Anna\_Stjornauga](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anna_stjornauga/32/377304_2.png) [@Anna\_Stjornauga](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anna_Stjornauga)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 6:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/aset-liberated-what-will-the-republic-do/218734/49 "2020-02-11T18:35:14Z")

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Then you should stop being fools.

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**Author:** ![Pol\_Macsliebh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pol_macsliebh/32/376245_2.png) [@Pol\_Macsliebh](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pol_Macsliebh)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 6:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/aset-liberated-what-will-the-republic-do/218734/50 "2020-02-11T18:36:32Z")

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This here is the Circus… The Clown Show…

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**Author:** ![Harkon\_Thorson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/harkon_thorson/32/320172_2.png) [@Harkon\_Thorson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Harkon_Thorson)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 6:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/aset-liberated-what-will-the-republic-do/218734/51 "2020-02-11T18:46:10Z")

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> [@Anna\_Stjornauga](#):
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> And _Amarr_ .

Thats a new one. Not sure who you are trying to insult more with this: me or the slavers.  
As for me I said I do not care what you call me and stand by it. All you do is make yourself look like an idiot and disgrace your kin.

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**Author:** ![Melisma\_Ramijozana](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/melisma_ramijozana/32/168474_2.png) [@Melisma\_Ramijozana](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Melisma_Ramijozana)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 8:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/aset-liberated-what-will-the-republic-do/218734/52 "2020-02-11T20:01:35Z")

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> [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](#):
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> considering he’s still alive and invited to parties under hospitality.

Let me repeat myself one more godsdammed ■■■■■■■ time so _all_ of you can get this straight:

**I did not invite Nauplius to the roller skating party.** In fact, I requested that he, and several others of his ilk, be barred from attending. In response to my request, I was informed that the venue was neutral territory, and that the owner of said venue insisted that everyone should be able to attend, including Nauplius.

We see how _that_ ended.

Since then, Nauplius has been barred from every event I had even a finger in producing, and I have not worked with that venue again. Not only that, but I have been vocal about not humanizing monsters like Nauplius by allowing them to attend parties–most notably after Diana Kim violated guest right at a party by assaulting a supposed ally.

If you’re going to come after me and mine, make sure it’s for something that I haven’t _very publicly_ disavowed _months_ before. Get off your high horse, Else. It’s unbecoming.

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**Author:** ![Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elsebeth_rhiannon/32/418836_2.png) [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elsebeth_Rhiannon)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 8:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/aset-liberated-what-will-the-republic-do/218734/53 "2020-02-11T20:07:07Z")

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> [@Melisma\_Ramijozana](#):
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> If you’re going to come after me and mine, make sure it’s for something that I haven’t _very publicly_ disavowed _months_ before. Get off your high horse, Else. It’s unbecoming.

You should at some point stop thinking everything is _about you_. It would be _becoming_.

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**Author:** ![Melisma\_Ramijozana](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/melisma_ramijozana/32/168474_2.png) [@Melisma\_Ramijozana](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Melisma_Ramijozana)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 8:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/aset-liberated-what-will-the-republic-do/218734/54 "2020-02-11T20:12:31Z")

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Oh, is there some other party that Nauplius attended that you’re complaining about?

Hint: I’ve been to nearly every public party since then.

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**Author:** ![Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elsebeth_rhiannon/32/418836_2.png) [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elsebeth_Rhiannon)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 8:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/aset-liberated-what-will-the-republic-do/218734/55 "2020-02-11T20:15:58Z")

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Yes, there have been parties and there are supposedly civilized channels and virtual spaces that invite him, and let him speak of his atrocities, every day, all around.

The point is not who all made the mistake of inviting him once or twice or five times in the history, though I could name names. The point is that _he remains_. Calling things like the fact that Lord Consort Newelle made a fine show of drama of attacking him with a ■■■■■■■ spoon as some kind of _proof_ of the morality of Amarr in dealing with him is utterly nonsensical.

He’s not been dealt with in any real sense of the word - or if he has, so have Harkon and Pol, now that Anna has stooped low enough to calling them enemy.

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**Author:** ![Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elsebeth_rhiannon/32/418836_2.png) [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elsebeth_Rhiannon)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 8:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/aset-liberated-what-will-the-republic-do/218734/56 "2020-02-11T20:56:14Z")

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> [@Red\_Roman\_Joringer](#):
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> If only someone had been able to look into the future and know that manipulating and enabling a bunch of ■■■■■■■ psychotics to get what everyone wanted was going to probably get a lot of innocent people killed…
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> [Oh wait.](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/petition-to-the-throne-imperial-majesty-catiz-i/196789)

[Indeed.](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/appeal-to-concord-against-house-sarums-illegal-slave-taking/196438)

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**Author:** ![Red\_Roman\_Joringer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/red_roman_joringer/32/181976_2.png) [@Red\_Roman\_Joringer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Red_Roman_Joringer)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 9:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/aset-liberated-what-will-the-republic-do/218734/57 "2020-02-11T21:18:55Z")

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Almost like turning your back on who and how this ■■■■■■■■ gets done and then waving your hands at the casualties is the kind of thing we should be able to ■■■■■■■ predict by now.

You know… not emceeing their ■■■■■■■ pep rallies.

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**Author:** ![Melisma\_Ramijozana](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/melisma_ramijozana/32/168474_2.png) [@Melisma\_Ramijozana](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Melisma_Ramijozana)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 9:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/aset-liberated-what-will-the-republic-do/218734/58 "2020-02-11T21:45:27Z")

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> [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](#):
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> The point is that _he remains_ . Calling things like the fact that Lord Consort Newelle made a fine show of drama of attacking him with a ■■■■■■■ spoon as some kind of _proof_ of the morality of Amarr in dealing with him is utterly nonsensical.

And the point I made is that I’ve made a stand against exactly that. And as far as I’ve seen, others have done exactly the same. If you want it to _stop_, then yes, you’re going to have to name names instead of just throwing shade from your coward corner.

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**Author:** ![Cain\_Aloga](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cain_aloga/32/457080_2.png) [@Cain\_Aloga](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cain_Aloga)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 10:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/aset-liberated-what-will-the-republic-do/218734/59 "2020-02-11T22:22:36Z")

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Elsebeth can be called many things. A ‘coward’ is certainly not one of them.

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**Author:** ![Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elsebeth_rhiannon/32/418836_2.png) [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elsebeth_Rhiannon)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2020, 5:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/aset-liberated-what-will-the-republic-do/218734/60 "2020-02-12T05:02:35Z")

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> [@Melisma\_Ramijozana](#):
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> If you want it to _stop_ , then yes, you’re going to have to name names

I did not bring him up. He was mentioned by another as an example of how the “Amarr are piling up to kill him” and I was asked if I’m going to make an empty gesture like Newelle’s, but against Pol.

I’m not here to “throw shade” or “make it stop”. The “should he not be banned” discussion with specific people does not belong here. My point was to answer the above with “not very effectively, it seems” and “no”.

Not that I think the cases are comparable, anyway. I was just irked by the posturing.

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