# Asset safety and the ability to go on hiatus

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/asset-safety-and-the-ability-to-go-on-hiatus/484643>\
**Category:** Assembly Hall\
**Created:** [April 29, 2025, 6:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/asset-safety-and-the-ability-to-go-on-hiatus/484643 "2025-04-29T06:26:52Z")\
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**Author:** ![Elathy\_Maricadie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elathy_maricadie/32/379496_2.png) [@Elathy\_Maricadie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elathy_Maricadie)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2025, 4:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/asset-safety-and-the-ability-to-go-on-hiatus/484643/21 "2025-05-04T16:40:16Z")

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Lessons learned I guess…

1. Don’t leave Assets in Structures if you cannot afford to pay reclaim fees, should assets end up in Asset Safety.
2. If you’re planning on taking a break from EVE move everything to an NPC station close by or in lowsec where assets may be more easily sold.

Common causes for Assets ending in Assets Safety:

1. Destruction of the Structure where assets are located.
2. Structure enter Low Power mode - possibly leads to 1.
3. Structure is taken down by Owner.
4. You manually put them in Asset Safety to safely move your assets, within 2 days of doing so assets may be moved to station within same system and reclaimed at 0.5% fee.

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**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2025, 5:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/asset-safety-and-the-ability-to-go-on-hiatus/484643/22 "2025-05-04T17:36:40Z")

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which of note, neither of us mentioned, OP has titans, titans can’t be docked in NPC stations.

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**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2025, 6:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/asset-safety-and-the-ability-to-go-on-hiatus/484643/23 "2025-05-04T18:03:01Z")

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Sit in it, log out. where is the problem?

Tbh this whole topic is like a super rich Ferrari collector complaining that he gives up his car-galeria in Monaco and to have all his million dollar assets safely stored and conserved without him moving a finger someone _really_ dares to ask for a payment…

The OP is _obviously_ rich enough to pay whatver asset safety fees CCP demands for “remote magic securing” all his stuff, the alternative is to save money and move these things manually ouf ot nullsec, find secure docking stations or logging them out on the chars who are supposed to fly these ships anyway. They even have large enough hangar bays to store a lot of other stuff in them that he might want to keep for a later rejoin.

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**Author:** ![Wachutu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wachutu/32/410262_2.png) [@Wachutu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wachutu)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2025, 10:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/asset-safety-and-the-ability-to-go-on-hiatus/484643/24 "2025-05-04T22:25:38Z")

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Freeport keeps in Ama, Oijanen and Turnur exist.

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**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2025, 11:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/asset-safety-and-the-ability-to-go-on-hiatus/484643/25 "2025-05-04T23:45:26Z")

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> [@Rain6637](#):
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> This just reallllly feels like the old medical clone fees.

Unlike medical clone fees these asset safety fees make sense.

If asset safety were without meaningful cost people would abuse it much more to teleport items for free to safety of a PS station from anywhere in NS space.

People already do so often while the cost is only 15%, but would abuse this feature even more if asset safety cost were less.

Asset safety cannot get cheaper than this without undermining the gameplay of hauling. People would simply abuse it for easy logistics.

Again, if you wish to safely store your ships, even supers and titans, you should park them in a Keepstar in a system with a station within the same system so you can asset safety for only 0.5% cost.

That’s pretty much free.

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**Author:** ![Mephiztopheleze](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mephiztopheleze/32/381036_2.png) [@Mephiztopheleze](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mephiztopheleze)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2025, 7:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/asset-safety-and-the-ability-to-go-on-hiatus/484643/26 "2025-05-05T07:01:30Z")

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I’ll be taking a short break later in the year.  
Before leaving, I’ll be packing up all the stuff in my C5 bearhole.  
Capitals will be full of battleships.  
!PANIC! freighter full of stuff.  
Characters sitting in useful evac ships should the wormhole get evicted while I’m away (webber, probers, rolling Praxii etc).  
I’ll wear the cost of new rigs for a bunch of ships that will have to be repackaged.  
Prior to going afk, I’ll shift as much PI materials and various other bits to Jita.  
I have the luxury of being able to plan for this short break and some corpmates i share the bearhole with to keep an eye on it while I’m gone.

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**Author:** ![Harley\_Quinzels](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/harley_quinzels/32/464403_2.png) [@Harley\_Quinzels](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Harley_Quinzels)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2025, 11:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/asset-safety-and-the-ability-to-go-on-hiatus/484643/27 "2025-06-15T11:59:34Z")

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I feel the 15% is what ever but having that percentage go down over time would make sense. 15% going down to say 3-5% incrimentally over a year. If you attempt to abuse the system it costs you if you take a break for a good while welcome back you can reclaim your stuff fir 3-5% of value. It prevents outright abuse of the system without abusing players.

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**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2025, 2:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/asset-safety-and-the-ability-to-go-on-hiatus/484643/28 "2025-06-15T14:19:13Z")

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> [@Harley\_Quinzels](#):
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> if you take a break…

…you bring your stuff to an NPC station  
…firesale most of the things you won’t need for a new start later  
…repackage/compress/refine your stuff and put it into freighters, which you can log off  
…donate stuff to your corp  
…give your stuff to some friend to sit it for you while you are absent

And last but not least: Stop caring so much for assets in a game you are about to leave so completely, that you won’t even be able to log in and evac your stuff on an discord-alert-ping that says “Station is under attack, get your stuff out!!!” (which still leaves you a multiple day window to evac/log off).

Asset Safety is _completely and ultimately unnessessary in this game_. The people living in WH space for _years_ prove that every day, by running **EVAC concepts** and **asset discipline** and that is a 100% enough, even for larger corps and alliances of hundreds over hundreds of members and stations that have thousands of ships stored. There should not be a magic asset teleporter in the game, it’s the responsibility of the player to make sure not to own anything in places he cannot either defend or evacuate in time.

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**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2025, 2:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/asset-safety-and-the-ability-to-go-on-hiatus/484643/29 "2025-06-15T14:26:09Z")

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> [@Syzygium](#):
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> …

Alternatively:

 ![Trash_it](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/c/b/3/cb338022a895141bf1b2d262bb28568558cc5874.jpeg)

😇

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**Author:** ![Rain6637](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rain6637/32/404316_2.png) [@Rain6637](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rain6637)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2025, 4:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/asset-safety-and-the-ability-to-go-on-hiatus/484643/30 "2025-06-17T16:34:08Z")

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it has been so long that I might have cynoed into Lowsec and attempted to dock.

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**Author:** ![Rain6637](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rain6637/32/404316_2.png) [@Rain6637](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rain6637)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2025, 4:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/asset-safety-and-the-ability-to-go-on-hiatus/484643/31 "2025-06-17T16:35:02Z")

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yep, I was once all about that C5 gameplay. I know that suitcase lifestyle well. Getting evicted was good times.

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**Author:** ![Rain6637](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rain6637/32/404316_2.png) [@Rain6637](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rain6637)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2025, 4:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/asset-safety-and-the-ability-to-go-on-hiatus/484643/32 "2025-06-17T16:39:09Z")

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I get that. There are players who have gigatons of minerals they would probably like to move on purpose, and 15% is an acceptable expense.

I’m sure that I could contact a GM and after looking at my activity, it would be obvious that I just had something come up and I could use some help. iirc, they wouldn’t move supers historically. Maybe my issue could be solved by contacting customer support and they could waive the 15%. I don’t know.

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**Author:** ![Rain6637](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rain6637/32/404316_2.png) [@Rain6637](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rain6637)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2025, 4:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/asset-safety-and-the-ability-to-go-on-hiatus/484643/33 "2025-06-17T16:41:37Z")

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I will say that I’m not very focused on keeping ISK. It just worked out that way with the production costs going up, and my alliance having very good ship replacement programs. With corp and alliance taxes that came out of PVE, there just wasn’t any loss from dying in PVP. 16 years of that and you end up with assets, which is good.

I get you though. This probably won’t get me any sympathy.

The PLEX purchase to get back in for the war in 2020 is a lot. But it looked like everyone wanted to wipe us off the map and at the time it just needed to happen.

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**Author:** ![Rain6637](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rain6637/32/404316_2.png) [@Rain6637](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rain6637)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2025, 4:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/asset-safety-and-the-ability-to-go-on-hiatus/484643/34 "2025-06-17T16:48:26Z")

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Don’t know if I updated this situation, but it has worked out. Things are sold, and there are people watching things for me. Subs are continuing because I must have my SP.

The irl situation turned out well.

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**Author:** ![Boags](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/boags/32/382554_2.png) [@Boags](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Boags)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2025, 10:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/asset-safety-and-the-ability-to-go-on-hiatus/484643/35 "2025-06-22T10:30:16Z")

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Why dont ccp make certain regions in null, have no assest safety. But better sites etc, to make up for the lack of safety

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**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2025, 11:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/asset-safety-and-the-ability-to-go-on-hiatus/484643/36 "2025-06-22T11:00:55Z")

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Because no one in NullSec wants that. Those NullBlocks _genuinely don’t care_ what is good for the game and what isn’t. They care for their position of power within the game and asset safety solidifies their position. With asset safety, it is no longer possible to cut-off someone from his stockpiles, war reserves or even loot significant spoils of war. It makes attacks on them incredibly costly but with little actual reward, so.. unlikely at all. Why risk a fleet in attacking a station, where all the assets can be just teleported away? Why risk defending a station if you can just teleport all assets away? They don’t need to fight any more and they don’t really want to. They want their members to grind all day long, ideally with mass-multibox accounts and bots, so they can get their tax cut that will make the leadership gang rich beyond imagination.

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**Author:** ![Mephiztopheleze](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mephiztopheleze/32/381036_2.png) [@Mephiztopheleze](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mephiztopheleze)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2025, 11:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/asset-safety-and-the-ability-to-go-on-hiatus/484643/37 "2025-06-22T23:59:41Z")

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> [@Syzygium](#):
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> With asset safety, it is no longer possible to cut-off someone from his stockpiles, war reserves or even loot significant spoils of war

See also, the deadzoned station of R3PO-Z in ~2013.  
Such things are just not possible today.  
It took a long time for them to retrieve their assets from that station.

> **[The Cold Battle of I6-SYN Station](https://evenews24.com/2015/01/09/the-cold-battle-of-i6-syn-station/)**
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> The border system of Cache (I6-SYN) saw 1800 pilots collide in dramatic fashion yesterday. The 2 hour long battle featured a cast of rivalries, old and new, but the stakes \[…\]

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**Post date:** [September 20, 2025, 11:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/asset-safety-and-the-ability-to-go-on-hiatus/484643/38 "2025-09-20T23:59:52Z")

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