# Asset safety for people who get ganked **URL:** \ **Category:** Player Features & Ideas\ **Created:** [March 12, 2024, 6:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/asset-safety-for-people-who-get-ganked/442696 "2024-03-12T18:16:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Dchill](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dchill/32/408523_2.png) [@Dchill](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dchill)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2024, 6:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/asset-safety-for-people-who-get-ganked/442696/1 "2024-03-12T18:16:18Z")
Hello, i would like to propose asset safety be expanded to cover people who are ganked in high sec. ---
**Author:** ![Dchill](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dchill/32/408523_2.png) [@Dchill](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dchill)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2024, 6:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/asset-safety-for-people-who-get-ganked/442696/2 "2024-03-12T18:36:28Z")
> **Asset safety** is a means of mitigating the risk associated with storing items inside destructible structures > Asset Safety is activated whenever > > - An Upwell structure is destroyed or unanchored [https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Asset\_safety](https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Asset_safety) ---
**Author:** ![Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sasha_nemtsov/32/393707_2.png) [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sasha_Nemtsov)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2024, 6:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/asset-safety-for-people-who-get-ganked/442696/3 "2024-03-12T18:43:47Z")
You’re gonna get chastised, Dchill, if you keep thread-spamming the forum in this way. That’s your business, of course, but your apparent reluctance properly to think through your ideas makes me suspect that you are, at best, a _dilettante_, and at worst, a kind of huckster. All you’re likely to get from it, is attention. O wait… ---
**Author:** ![Dchill](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dchill/32/408523_2.png) [@Dchill](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dchill)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2024, 6:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/asset-safety-for-people-who-get-ganked/442696/4 "2024-03-12T18:45:19Z")
I don’t know what you are talking about, I am interested in the discussion ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Traindriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_traindriver/32/373313_2.png) [@ISD\_Traindriver](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Traindriver)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2024, 6:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/asset-safety-for-people-who-get-ganked/442696/5 "2024-03-12T18:45:37Z")
The [**FORSAKEN FORTRESS**](https://www.eveonline.com/article/q9ayo4/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may) update in May 2020 introduced a new structure state - ‘Abandoned’ - alongside the existing Full Power and Low Power states. This will apply to both standard structures and FLEX structures. Structures will transition from Low Power to Abandoned state if they have not consumed any fuel from service modules for 7 days + 0-24 hours. This means that the structure could transition after a minimum of 7 days, or a maximum of 8 days. When a structure enters the Abandoned state, the following structure abilities will no longer be available to it: - **No [Reinforcement Phases](https://support.eveonline.com/hc/en-us/articles/208289385-Upwell-Structures-Vulnerability-States)** - The structure will have no reinforcement phases, meaning it can be destroyed in one session (_Damage caps will still be in effect. If a structure is currently in a reinforced state at the moment the abandonment timer expires, then that reinforce timer will operate as normal but no new reinforcement phases will be allowed_). - **No [Tethering](https://support.eveonline.com/hc/en-us/articles/207568639-Upwell-Structure-Ship-Tethering)** - The structure will not provide any tethering assistance. - **No [Asset Safety](https://support.eveonline.com/hc/en-us/articles/208289365-Asset-Safety)** - Items will not be put into asset safety when the structure is destroyed (Wormhole located structures will continue to operate with no asset safety for all states). Onlining a service module in a structure that is in the Abandoned state will return it to Full Power, restoring its abilities provided that the structure is not damaged, as service modules cannot be onlined for a damaged structure. If a structure survives through a Hull Vulnerable repair cycle and transitions back to the Shield Vulnerable phase, then the service modules will automatically return to the state they were previously in. This means that if they were previously offline due to any reason, they will be so after the transition. If they were online before the transition, they will be so again. The following Dev Blog contains various useful flowcharts and answers to frequently asked questions regarding the Abandoned state: [**FORSAKEN FORTRESS**](https://www.eveonline.com/article/q9ayo4/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may) Everything there was to discuss on this topic was already discussed more than 3 years ago: > [@Forsaken Fortress – Coming 26 May](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may/235219): > > Greetings Capsuleers, We have just [released a dev blog](https://www.eveonline.com/article/q9ayo4/forsaken-fortress-coming-26-may) outlining upcoming changes to structure vulnerability states! Please use this thread to discuss the update with your fellow pilots. Update: May 8, 2020 There have been a lot of good questions about the mechanics of how this change will work so we have compiled a list of frequently asked questions. Q: Will structures be immediately abandoned as of patch day if they meet the criteria? A: We don’t start the clock on abandoned str… Closed. ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Traindriver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_traindriver/32/373313_2.png) [@ISD\_Traindriver](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Traindriver)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2024, 6:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/asset-safety-for-people-who-get-ganked/442696/6 "2024-03-12T18:45:45Z")