# Attention PvErs that have been abused by suicide ganks, and war decs! **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [April 22, 2019, 4:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/attention-pvers-that-have-been-abused-by-suicide-ganks-and-war-decs/154385 "2019-04-22T16:43:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2019, 5:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/attention-pvers-that-have-been-abused-by-suicide-ganks-and-war-decs/154385/21 "2019-04-22T17:15:58Z")
He made a new thread. > [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#): > > would be a deity whose priesthood think that burning a child at the stake is a decent tribute. He really is a terrorist, isn’t he? ---
**Author:** ![Taloris\_Aldercain](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/taloris_aldercain/32/317529_2.png) [@Taloris\_Aldercain](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Taloris_Aldercain)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2019, 5:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/attention-pvers-that-have-been-abused-by-suicide-ganks-and-war-decs/154385/22 "2019-04-22T17:23:04Z")
@ISD_Dorrim_Barstorlode, wouldn’t this be something for the CSM section? Then again, that thread there was already locked. @Noori_Naarian So are you a supporter for the Holy Amarr Empire or a Blooder pretending to be a supporter of the Empire? ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2019, 5:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/attention-pvers-that-have-been-abused-by-suicide-ganks-and-war-decs/154385/23 "2019-04-22T17:23:39Z")
> [@Solecist\_Project](#): > > He really is a terrorist, isn’t he? I wouldn’t go that far, extremist in his views (when compared to the norm in Eve) is a yes though. He needs to step away from the keyboard and relax else, metaphorically speaking: ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/d/5/d565d22b42fdc96677da8508693451f22d54709e.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Maekchu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/maekchu/32/178692_2.png) [@Maekchu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Maekchu)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2019, 5:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/attention-pvers-that-have-been-abused-by-suicide-ganks-and-war-decs/154385/24 "2019-04-22T17:30:35Z")
Seemed pretty relevant. Thank you youtube subsciption feed. ---
**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2019, 5:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/attention-pvers-that-have-been-abused-by-suicide-ganks-and-war-decs/154385/25 "2019-04-22T17:33:21Z")
Considering _everything_ we know about him and how he fits the description pretty much perfectly, I don’t really think that the slight difference matters. ---
**Author:** ![Trevor\_Dalech](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/trevor_dalech/32/410287_2.png) [@Trevor\_Dalech](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Trevor_Dalech)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2019, 5:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/attention-pvers-that-have-been-abused-by-suicide-ganks-and-war-decs/154385/26 "2019-04-22T17:39:05Z")
> [@Noori\_Naarian](#): > > Tell me your experience, about how you were abused. About six years ago, I got suicide ganked for the first (and only) time: > **[Sigil | Trevor Dalech | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/32180791/)** > > Trevor Dalech (CandyMan Cartel) lost their Sigil in Isanamo (Lonetrek) Total Value: 334,951,693.09 ISK I figured out where the tornado pilot’s safe was and used the opportunity to excercise my kill right: > **[Tornado | mclawton | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/32183648/)** > > mclawton (Apex Clan) lost their Tornado in Isanamo (Lonetrek) Total Value: 66,143,143.30 ISK twice! > **[Tornado | mclawton | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/32184183/)** > > mclawton (Apex Clan) lost their Tornado in Isanamo (Lonetrek) Total Value: 66,152,341.22 ISK This was my first true taste of PvP in EVE and it set me on the path of becoming a feared pirate myself. It turned EVE from a mere hobby into a serious addiction where I dream each night of my next kill. Gankers, give me my life back! I feel like something has been stolen from me! ---
**Author:** ![Maekchu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/maekchu/32/178692_2.png) [@Maekchu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Maekchu)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2019, 5:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/attention-pvers-that-have-been-abused-by-suicide-ganks-and-war-decs/154385/27 "2019-04-22T17:39:28Z")
Narh, he references Islam. This is an article posted by the “Video Game Master” account, he used to post the other article he spammed with on medium. > **[Why Islam Is the True Religion…](https://medium.com/@VideoGameMaster/why-islam-is-the-true-religion-263076a579eb)** > > I have spent a good amount of years, here in this world. So either he is a radical that just talks like this… Or he is a parody of an Islamist radical, which is honestly worse. Wouldn’t surprise me if it is the latter. He seems to be an individual totally lacking of any moral, while simultaneously screaming _“Why don’t we think of the children!?”_. Despicable. I’m surprised this character is not banned yet. Shows how lacks these forums actually are and how much is allowed. I love the eve community, but some apples are truly rotten. ---
**Author:** ![Noori\_Naarian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/noori_naarian/32/261285_2.png) [@Noori\_Naarian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Noori_Naarian)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2019, 5:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/attention-pvers-that-have-been-abused-by-suicide-ganks-and-war-decs/154385/28 "2019-04-22T17:43:31Z")
@ISD_Sakimura Can you please clean up the off-topic posts on this thread? This thread is about the gathering of experiences of abuse from players of new eden. thanks ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2019, 5:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/attention-pvers-that-have-been-abused-by-suicide-ganks-and-war-decs/154385/29 "2019-04-22T17:45:22Z")
Meh, personally I couldn’t care less about which deity of choice people follow, if any. What I do care about is it being shoved down my throat and if he is indeed intent on pursuing a platform based upon his faith then it has no place in Eve. @Noori_Naarian and on topic. I got canflipped on a trail account, shot at the flipper and promptly exploded. I learned enough about aggression mechanics that day to never get flipped, or suspect baited again. ---
**Author:** ![Maekchu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/maekchu/32/178692_2.png) [@Maekchu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Maekchu)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2019, 5:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/attention-pvers-that-have-been-abused-by-suicide-ganks-and-war-decs/154385/30 "2019-04-22T17:47:59Z")
I don’t care either. Which was why I said the parody was worse, since it’s a mockery of a whole world demographic. I was just explaining, that his references to “God be willing” and such, are probably not references to GoT. Anyway, taking these things to the forums are also against the forum rules. This should be a place removed of any IRL politics and religions. ---
**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2019, 5:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/attention-pvers-that-have-been-abused-by-suicide-ganks-and-war-decs/154385/31 "2019-04-22T17:50:34Z")
Man, at least I’m not the only one who understands what the ■■■■ is going on. Thank you! ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2019, 5:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/attention-pvers-that-have-been-abused-by-suicide-ganks-and-war-decs/154385/32 "2019-04-22T17:50:37Z")
lol GoT is about as close to a religion as I get 😃 > [@Maekchu](#): > > Anyway, taking these things to the forums are also against the forum rules. This should be a place removed of any IRL politics and religions. Unless, of course it’s generalised and satirical in nature. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/d/5/d5389a4e27e836d5b8c4350e4871c595d019efd4.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Maekchu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/maekchu/32/178692_2.png) [@Maekchu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Maekchu)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2019, 5:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/attention-pvers-that-have-been-abused-by-suicide-ganks-and-war-decs/154385/33 "2019-04-22T17:53:27Z")
Playing ignorant or dumb, can be fun sometimes for the entertainment value 😃 I just feel that this guy has crossed a line, so I was putting on my serious face there. ---
**Author:** ![Ma\_Baker\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ma_baker_mccandless/32/296015_2.png) [@Ma\_Baker\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ma_Baker_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2019, 6:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/attention-pvers-that-have-been-abused-by-suicide-ganks-and-war-decs/154385/34 "2019-04-22T18:08:19Z")
Ah near plum chortled mahself inter an early grave. Then ah saw him spammin this gospel in Jita, so sounds legit. ---
**Author:** ![Noori\_Naarian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/noori_naarian/32/261285_2.png) [@Noori\_Naarian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Noori_Naarian)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2019, 6:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/attention-pvers-that-have-been-abused-by-suicide-ganks-and-war-decs/154385/35 "2019-04-22T18:30:26Z")
> [@Trevor\_Dalech](#): > > About six years ago, I got suicide ganked for the first (and only) time: Thanks for staying on topic, and posting your experience. I’ll be sure to add it to the list of experiences iv gotten by members of our high sec coalition, and our alliance members experiences. This is an effort to collect evidence for the abuse of high sec against those players less inclined to do pvp. They claim high sec is suppose to be safe, so its time to make it safe. ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2019, 6:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/attention-pvers-that-have-been-abused-by-suicide-ganks-and-war-decs/154385/36 "2019-04-22T18:31:29Z")
> [@Noori\_Naarian](#): > > They claim high sec is suppose to be safe, so its time to make it safe. Where are you getting this from? I’ve been playing EVE for almost 5 years now and never heard the claim that high sec is supposed to be safe. ---
**Author:** ![Leah\_Crowleymass](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/leah_crowleymass/32/131904_2.png) [@Leah\_Crowleymass](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Leah_Crowleymass)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2019, 6:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/attention-pvers-that-have-been-abused-by-suicide-ganks-and-war-decs/154385/37 "2019-04-22T18:39:18Z")
> [@Scoots\_Choco](#): > > I’ve been playing EVE for almost 5 years now and never heard the claim that high sec is supposed to be safe. You didn’t hear? Aww, man- you’ve been missing out! 😆 Oh, wait, no you haven’t. You’re correct, HS is not safe. If only there were some kind of official statement to that effect… > **[CONCORD](https://support.eveonline.com/hc/en-us/articles/203208902-CONCORD)** > >   > CONCORD is one of several policing forces in High Security Space (0.5 to 1.0 security status), tasked with eliminating the ships of players that have illegally attacked other players. Such as att... > While CONCORD forces do react quickly and with force, **they do not have a mandate to protect attacked players** and as such will not necessarily be able to prevent eventual losses if attackers can field sufficient firepower to destroy their targets before CONCORD can intervene. **CONCORD should therefore be regarded as a force of retribution, not one of protection**. Oh. There it is, I guess. ---
**Author:** ![Noori\_Naarian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/noori_naarian/32/261285_2.png) [@Noori\_Naarian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Noori_Naarian)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2019, 6:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/attention-pvers-that-have-been-abused-by-suicide-ganks-and-war-decs/154385/38 "2019-04-22T18:40:48Z")
> [@Scoots\_Choco](#): > > Where are you getting this from? I’ve been playing EVE for almost 5 years now and never heard the claim that high sec is supposed to be safe. The forums. If thats not the case, why is high sec’s income lower then null? Either we remove nonconsensual pvp, or we make it make as much as null, in all activities. let me know when we have a decided answer. ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2019, 6:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/attention-pvers-that-have-been-abused-by-suicide-ganks-and-war-decs/154385/39 "2019-04-22T18:42:40Z")
> [@Noori\_Naarian](#): > > If thats not the case, why is high sec’s income lower then null? Either we remove nonconsensual pvp, or we make it make as much as null, in all activities. let me know when we have a decided answer. I’m at a loss as to where you are getting this idea from. Your argument is “because High Sec’s income is lower than Null’s, therefore, High Sec is supposed to be ‘safe’” (whatever ‘safe’ is supposed to mean anyway). But I must be missing something here, but I don’t know where CCP has stated anything that remotely supports that kind of idea. Would you mind explaining your position a bit more clearly? ---
**Author:** ![Trevor\_Dalech](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/trevor_dalech/32/410287_2.png) [@Trevor\_Dalech](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Trevor_Dalech)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2019, 6:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/attention-pvers-that-have-been-abused-by-suicide-ganks-and-war-decs/154385/40 "2019-04-22T18:42:57Z")
> [@Noori\_Naarian](#): > > Thanks for staying on topic, and posting your experience. It was great fun to be honest, I highly recommend it for everyone! [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/attention-pvers-that-have-been-abused-by-suicide-ganks-and-war-decs/154385.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/attention-pvers-that-have-been-abused-by-suicide-ganks-and-war-decs/154385.md?page=3)