# Auto-abbandon of wrecks **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [January 18, 2018, 4:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/auto-abbandon-of-wrecks/51875 "2018-01-18T16:52:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2018, 10:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/auto-abbandon-of-wrecks/51875/101 "2018-01-19T22:53:05Z")
Yeah, after browsing the forums here, I noticed you do it in almost every single thread. Do you even play the game? ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2018, 10:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/auto-abbandon-of-wrecks/51875/102 "2018-01-19T22:54:01Z")
@Ramona_McCandless Same. Though it is not surprising nor rare that people label the opposing opinion or someone who points out flaws as troll, basically if someone disagrees with them it is labeled a troll. I think the term that describes this method is called demagogy though other terms may also exist. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2018, 10:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/auto-abbandon-of-wrecks/51875/103 "2018-01-19T22:54:25Z")
Yes, thats why I have grounds to call stupid ideas stupid when Ive played long enough to know. Honestly, you seriously think this is a good idea? To force the ownership of wrecks from those who earned them to the general public? ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2018, 10:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/auto-abbandon-of-wrecks/51875/104 "2018-01-19T22:55:26Z")
Yeah. Its acommon problem in GD. IF you disagree for any reason, it makes you a troll. Good way to force out dissent. If being called names actually meant anything. Facts, jokes or gtfo. ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2018, 10:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/auto-abbandon-of-wrecks/51875/105 "2018-01-19T22:56:03Z")
And just exactly how long have you been playing Eve? ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2018, 10:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/auto-abbandon-of-wrecks/51875/106 "2018-01-19T22:58:37Z")
Slightly longer than the age of the alt you are using, why? Just exactly why is that relevent? ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2018, 10:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/auto-abbandon-of-wrecks/51875/107 "2018-01-19T22:59:14Z")
Now I know you’re just talking crap ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2018, 10:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/auto-abbandon-of-wrecks/51875/108 "2018-01-19T22:59:57Z")
How so? And you seriously think this is a good idea? To force the ownership of wrecks from those who earned them to the general public? ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2018, 11:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/auto-abbandon-of-wrecks/51875/109 "2018-01-19T23:01:40Z")
Because this is not an alt character, this is my main and I started playing in June 2008 ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2018, 11:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/auto-abbandon-of-wrecks/51875/110 "2018-01-19T23:02:18Z")
Btw if you read all my posts in this thread you can see that none of my posts are trolling and all of them are detailed and explaining the reasoning well for my decision not to support his idea and can also see that he completely ignored most of it in his responses and was the one who resorted to actual name calling and such. So as those are the facts kinda irrelevant if someone labels it differently just to support their narrative and/or to shift the subject as that won’t make facts go away and someone paying attention can see that. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2018, 11:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/auto-abbandon-of-wrecks/51875/111 "2018-01-19T23:03:09Z")
Whatever you say, market alt. I dont see how that invalidates my experience, or how it supports giving loot rights away to everyone by default. If youd like to return to the topic, and stop derailing, that would be a classy move. ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2018, 11:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/auto-abbandon-of-wrecks/51875/112 "2018-01-19T23:06:29Z")
> [@Drago\_Shouna](#): > > So here’s my thoughts. > > Leave the original timer as is, but add 1hr, that 1hr will turn the wrecks blue so anyone, including the guy who cleared the anom can claim them… and make them scannable. That’s the best compromise to the topic that I’ve seen in this thread. Also there’s a difference between being helpful with constructive criticism and just constantly pointing out aspects that you don’t like about the idea. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2018, 11:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/auto-abbandon-of-wrecks/51875/113 "2018-01-19T23:10:04Z")
I was in total support of the suggestion that either they appeared on Dscan if blued or a beacon could be dropped. Both are in control of the wreck owner and both do not change the dynamics of looting and wrecks elsewhere. ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2018, 11:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/auto-abbandon-of-wrecks/51875/114 "2018-01-19T23:11:28Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > Whatever you say, market alt. > > I dont see how that invalidates my experience, or how it supports giving loot rights away to everyone by default. > > If youd like to return to the topic, and stop derailing, that would be a classy move. lol, market alt, best troll remark yet. Try doing some research before you open up your mouth and stick your foot down your throat. As for getting back to the thread topic, I never left it. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2018, 11:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/auto-abbandon-of-wrecks/51875/115 "2018-01-19T23:13:32Z")
Why do you keep avoiding all direct statements and questions regarding the topic? I dont particularly care about the status of that character. Its irrelevent as is mine. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2018, 11:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/auto-abbandon-of-wrecks/51875/116 "2018-01-19T23:13:57Z")
Funnily enough same here: > [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#): > > On the other hand I agree with your suggestion, scanning blue wrecks would greatly help salvagers AND those who want to share the salvage. So +1 for that concept I can get behind that. > > And for the same reason +1 to the beacon idea as well which would make it even easier and efficient to share loot. I think the beacon idea would be the better solution. 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2018, 12:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/auto-abbandon-of-wrecks/51875/117 "2018-01-20T00:27:03Z")
> [@Drago\_Shouna](#): > > A) Leave the original timer as is, but add 1hr, that 1hr will turn the wrecks blue so anyone, including the guy who cleared the anom can claim them… and make them scannable. So after an hour I can steal some miners jetcan without going suspect? ---
**Author:** ![Drago\_Shouna](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drago_shouna/32/350651_2.png) [@Drago\_Shouna](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Drago_Shouna)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2018, 12:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/auto-abbandon-of-wrecks/51875/118 "2018-01-20T12:55:36Z")
> [@Ima\_Wreckyou](#): > > So after an hour I can steal some miners jetcan without going suspect? Sorry, we’re on about mission/anom wrecks left unclaimed, not jet canning 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2018, 2:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/auto-abbandon-of-wrecks/51875/119 "2018-01-20T14:06:51Z")
As you should know jetcans and lootcans are the same thing and would be equally affected by this. As would pvp wrecks. ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2018, 9:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/auto-abbandon-of-wrecks/51875/120 "2018-01-20T21:07:59Z")
> [@Drago\_Shouna](#): > > Sorry, we’re on about mission/anom wrecks left unclaimed, not jet canning 🙂 Yes, I’m quite aware of the one-dimensional thinking of carebears when it comes to suggesting a change to the game mechanics. that’s why I asked the question. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/auto-abbandon-of-wrecks/51875.md?page=5) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/auto-abbandon-of-wrecks/51875.md?page=7)