# Avatar Gameplay Polls and Discussion - WiS & Beyond **URL:** \ **Category:** Player Features & Ideas\ **Created:** [January 27, 2019, 8:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/avatar-gameplay-polls-and-discussion-wis-beyond/136294 "2019-01-27T20:43:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 4:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/avatar-gameplay-polls-and-discussion-wis-beyond/136294/21 "2019-01-29T16:09:15Z")
You can just edit the initial post, mate. ---
**Author:** ![Veskin\_Sentinel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/veskin_sentinel/32/506480_2.png) [@Veskin\_Sentinel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Veskin_Sentinel)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 4:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/avatar-gameplay-polls-and-discussion-wis-beyond/136294/22 "2019-01-29T16:11:39Z")
Once the poll is created I can edit it, but I got to insert a code which I am not familiar with. So let’s start anew. ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 4:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/avatar-gameplay-polls-and-discussion-wis-beyond/136294/23 "2019-01-29T16:12:14Z")
You could just ask how it works, but hey … sure! Good Luck! ---
**Author:** ![Veskin\_Sentinel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/veskin_sentinel/32/506480_2.png) [@Veskin\_Sentinel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Veskin_Sentinel)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 4:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/avatar-gameplay-polls-and-discussion-wis-beyond/136294/24 "2019-01-29T16:14:30Z")
If you know how it works in detail, please send me an EVE-Mail with instructions and I will see what I can do to make the previous polls public. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 4:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/avatar-gameplay-polls-and-discussion-wis-beyond/136294/25 "2019-01-29T16:17:44Z")
BTW, wasn’t Project Nova canceled? ---
**Author:** ![Veskin\_Sentinel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/veskin_sentinel/32/506480_2.png) [@Veskin\_Sentinel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Veskin_Sentinel)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 4:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/avatar-gameplay-polls-and-discussion-wis-beyond/136294/26 "2019-01-29T16:18:46Z")
The closed Alpha was postponed. But the project is in development. ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 4:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/avatar-gameplay-polls-and-discussion-wis-beyond/136294/27 "2019-01-29T16:19:13Z")
Wait, you want me to log in? No way! : - ) [poll type=regular results=always public=true] This is how it should look. You only need to change/add “public=true” and it should work. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Veskin\_Sentinel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/veskin_sentinel/32/506480_2.png) [@Veskin\_Sentinel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Veskin_Sentinel)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 4:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/avatar-gameplay-polls-and-discussion-wis-beyond/136294/28 "2019-01-29T16:20:20Z")
Cool thanks! Let’s see how this magic works. Will edit the OP. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 4:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/avatar-gameplay-polls-and-discussion-wis-beyond/136294/29 "2019-01-29T16:21:22Z")
> [@Salt\_Foambreaker](#): > > what’s the point? > > Besides parading around showing off art someone else created? What’s the point of blowing people up in space? Or anything else in EVE? Some players think it would be fun. So the point is for players to have fun. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 4:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/avatar-gameplay-polls-and-discussion-wis-beyond/136294/30 "2019-01-29T16:23:07Z")
> [@mkint](#): > > You get avatar gameplay, but you have to pay $60 up front, a second monthly sub, and no EVE integration. Buy or pass? If you can’t find at least a million “yes” votes, the idea is just as horrible as it always was. So you’d need $60,000,000 to make that part of the game? That’s kinda ludicrous. ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 4:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/avatar-gameplay-polls-and-discussion-wis-beyond/136294/31 "2019-01-29T16:23:26Z")
> [@Arrendis](#): > > What’s the point of blowing people up in space? Or anything else in EVE? > > Some players think it would be fun. So the point is for players to have fun. EVE is not that kind of game, this idea has failed once already, famously, completely. If you want to parade around and show off your avatar there are dozens of games that do that, why fk up EVE? ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 4:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/avatar-gameplay-polls-and-discussion-wis-beyond/136294/32 "2019-01-29T16:25:10Z")
> [@Salt\_Foambreaker](#): > > EVE is not that kind of game EVE’s not the kind of game where players have fun? Wow, that’s harsh. ---
**Author:** ![Veskin\_Sentinel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/veskin_sentinel/32/506480_2.png) [@Veskin\_Sentinel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Veskin_Sentinel)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 4:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/avatar-gameplay-polls-and-discussion-wis-beyond/136294/33 "2019-01-29T16:25:33Z")
Sorry bro. Getting an error message, saying that I can’t edit a poll after 5 minutes have passed after its creation. Will have to use the new polls. ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 4:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/avatar-gameplay-polls-and-discussion-wis-beyond/136294/34 "2019-01-29T16:26:29Z")
> [@Arrendis](#): > > EVE’s not the kind of game where players have fun? Wow, that’s harsh. /rolleyes Don’t be dishonest. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 4:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/avatar-gameplay-polls-and-discussion-wis-beyond/136294/35 "2019-01-29T16:27:02Z")
I’m not being dishonest, just flippant. 🙂 > [@Salt\_Foambreaker](#): > > why fk up EVE? Why assume it would ‘fk up EVE’? The rest of EVE would remain untouched. Let’s face it, CCP needs to hire more devs no matter _what_ they do at this point, because they’ve trimmed so much payroll, they don’t even _have_ a game balance team, they’ve got 2 guys (Fozzie & Rise) working on arguably one of the most important aspects of space combat _in their spare time_. ---
**Author:** ![Che\_Biko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/che_biko/32/500836_2.png) [@Che\_Biko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Che_Biko)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 4:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/avatar-gameplay-polls-and-discussion-wis-beyond/136294/36 "2019-01-29T16:50:26Z")
My “other” comment: Do it like any other EVE feature, adding/removing dev time as is required to keep both the feature and the game healthy. ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 5:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/avatar-gameplay-polls-and-discussion-wis-beyond/136294/37 "2019-01-29T17:38:35Z")
> [@Arrendis](#): > > The rest of EVE would remain untouched. No, it would not. In fact that is really the key sticking point: _What do you do there? Just like with a new ship, “what is it’s purpose, or role?”._ If there is no purpose then there is no point to building it. As soon as you add a purpose then it is interacting with EVE. To have a purpose it must. Then you get to things like: - You have to WiS to pick up missions - You have to WiS when you activate a clone BLEH!!! ---
**Author:** ![Bataav](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bataav/32/502151_2.png) [@Bataav](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bataav)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 5:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/avatar-gameplay-polls-and-discussion-wis-beyond/136294/38 "2019-01-29T17:56:17Z")
> [@Salt\_Foambreaker](#): > > What do you do there? Interesting question, and one that CCP has been able to answer in the past when there have been significant changes to the EVE landscape. They did it when they introduced wormhole space. They did it when they added abyssal space. Both of these locations introduced new things to do, or different ways to do things that were already possible elsewhere, without negatively impacting existing gameplay. There’s no reason the same should not be true for avatar game play with the introduction of spaces inside structures. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 6:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/avatar-gameplay-polls-and-discussion-wis-beyond/136294/39 "2019-01-29T18:13:20Z")
> [@Salt\_Foambreaker](#): > > _What do you do there? Just like with a new ship, “what is it’s purpose, or role?”._ > > If there is no purpose then there is no point to building it. As soon as you add a purpose then it is interacting with EVE. To have a purpose it must. > > Then you get to things like: > > - You have to WiS to pick up missions > - You have to WiS when you activate a clone > > BLEH!!! Except you’re asking the wrong question. It’s not ‘what do you do there?’ It’s ‘what _can_ you do there?’ Because there’s no reason to make it so that people _have_ to do it there. If they want to keep doing it the way they’re doing it, let them. Nullsec existing doesn’t mean people _can’t_ live in highsec. J-space existing doesn’t mean people _have_ to live in j-space. EVE’s entire history is one where getting new options doesn’t eliminate old ones. It just gives you _more_ options. ---
**Author:** ![mkint](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mkint/32/14424_2.png) [@mkint](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/mkint)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2019, 6:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/avatar-gameplay-polls-and-discussion-wis-beyond/136294/40 "2019-01-29T18:35:41Z")
> [@Arrendis](#): > > > [@mkint](#): > > > > You get avatar gameplay, but you have to pay $60 up front, a second monthly sub, and no EVE integration. Buy or pass? If you can’t find at least a million “yes” votes, the idea is just as horrible as it always was. > > So you’d need $60,000,000 to make that part of the game? That’s kinda ludicrous. If you want it to NOT be DOA, absolutely. Game development is expensive, and CCP doesn’t have the right kind of talent. That’s why EVE has only ever had minor iterations. Every time they’ve tried to make something from scratch, it has turned out terrible. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/avatar-gameplay-polls-and-discussion-wis-beyond/136294.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/avatar-gameplay-polls-and-discussion-wis-beyond/136294.md?page=3)