# Back to the game! Is low attention, semi-afk, solo mining still possible? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [July 13, 2020, 4:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/back-to-the-game-is-low-attention-semi-afk-solo-mining-still-possible/254689 "2020-07-13T16:03:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jayce_fitzpatrick/32/383289_2.png) [@Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jayce_Fitzpatrick)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2020, 2:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/back-to-the-game-is-low-attention-semi-afk-solo-mining-still-possible/254689/22 "2020-07-14T14:00:25Z")
This is an odd way to increase netflix sub fee. ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2020, 2:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/back-to-the-game-is-low-attention-semi-afk-solo-mining-still-possible/254689/23 "2020-07-14T14:21:13Z")
Yes it is absolutely no issue. Don’t let the others tell you otherwise. They just try to scare you so you don’t compete with their AFK income. Just get a nice Mackinaw, they have a nice ore hold, bling that thing out with green and blue mining mods to be competitive! Good luck miner! ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2020, 3:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/back-to-the-game-is-low-attention-semi-afk-solo-mining-still-possible/254689/24 "2020-07-14T15:30:07Z")
> [@Karak\_Terrel](#): > > Yes it is absolutely no issue. Don’t let the others tell you otherwise. They just try to scare you so you don’t compete with their AFK income. > > Just get a nice Mackinaw, they have a nice ore hold, bling that thing out with green and blue mining mods to be competitive! > > Good luck miner! Man, you’re a real asshat. Why would you tell him this? We spend all this time figuring out these strats, and then you just give them up for free to pubbies on the forums? I’m getting you kicked out of the club. Enjoy being poor again. ---
**Author:** ![Zombie\_Ellecon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zombie_ellecon/32/264152_2.png) [@Zombie\_Ellecon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zombie_Ellecon)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2020, 3:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/back-to-the-game-is-low-attention-semi-afk-solo-mining-still-possible/254689/25 "2020-07-14T15:44:10Z")
Calling it now. Op will be back here soon complaining about being ganked while afk mining ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2020, 3:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/back-to-the-game-is-low-attention-semi-afk-solo-mining-still-possible/254689/26 "2020-07-14T15:50:55Z")
Didn’t you hear? CODE. is dead and no one else is ganking miners. No need to spread fear here. ---
**Author:** ![Zombie\_Ellecon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zombie_ellecon/32/264152_2.png) [@Zombie\_Ellecon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zombie_Ellecon)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2020, 3:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/back-to-the-game-is-low-attention-semi-afk-solo-mining-still-possible/254689/27 "2020-07-14T15:52:41Z")
And the killbourd that says they do is a lie? ---
**Author:** ![Ishmael\_Ronuken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ishmael_ronuken/32/209150_2.png) [@Ishmael\_Ronuken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ishmael_Ronuken)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2020, 9:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/back-to-the-game-is-low-attention-semi-afk-solo-mining-still-possible/254689/28 "2020-07-14T21:49:27Z")
The best ways for a new player to make money are through lvl 4 missions and exploration. One of which can be done semi afk. The bounty or loot alone can net millions of isk per hour with very low pvp requirements (if not none at all). Exploration is actually a tad bit harder due to the rng minesweeper minigame but once you get the pattern of engagement down (or a t2 data with blackglass) you can get more and more successful cans, and your ship is covops fit later in the game. I haven’t gotten that far, but from what I’ve read even nullsec has “carebears in capital ships” that just rat huge sites for ez loot and isk/hour. Let’s not even discuss mining income and passive market/pi income. If that’s not good enough for you, you can literally Plex your account and have isk left over if you start two skillfarm alts on top of your main account alt. Literally netting billions of isk per month with no risk whatsoever. PvP in this game is nuanced, but generally always boils down to fight what you can run from what you can’t. Once you understand that it’s all rock paper scissors from fit design the game turns into one of calculated risks of engagement. Fleet ops are basically “broadcast when being primaries, f1 my target”. Hell, one of the most profitable things to do from PvP is smashing someone else’s stations or other property when they’re not there. Once you figure out DSCAN and making your own bookmarks your chances of loss go down at a near exponential level. Honestly, this might just be my disposition but I don’t find _any_ MMO to be hardcore or non-casual. MMOs, to me, are casual by default. A game to play as you relax, watch a movie, or read multiple things on the internet. EVE is not an exception here. Perhaps it’s you who need to enlighten me what is so hardcore about EVE. Is it just because there’s permanent loss? Suffice to say, I don’t think anyone cries over their lost K5M pvp destroyer. ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2020, 11:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/back-to-the-game-is-low-attention-semi-afk-solo-mining-still-possible/254689/29 "2020-07-14T23:40:22Z")
yesterday i entered a wormhole with a F venture and mined 60 million of gas just to remember myself that all the QQ is BS true story ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2020, 12:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/back-to-the-game-is-low-attention-semi-afk-solo-mining-still-possible/254689/30 "2020-07-15T00:01:06Z")
![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/4/445efa8c10d7e27c87c55e80851cebfb77e5ccff.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Xuxe\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuxe_xu/32/464660_2.png) [@Xuxe\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuxe_Xu)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2020, 4:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/back-to-the-game-is-low-attention-semi-afk-solo-mining-still-possible/254689/31 "2020-07-15T04:55:17Z")
-1/10 🎣 ---
**Author:** ![Vals\_Loeder](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vals_loeder/32/192416_2.png) [@Vals\_Loeder](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vals_Loeder)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2020, 12:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/back-to-the-game-is-low-attention-semi-afk-solo-mining-still-possible/254689/32 "2020-07-15T12:22:03Z")
So many words and none of them tells me anything about why my opinion that EvE is not the game for Bidermaier is, in your words: horseshit. It is clear from the OP he wants to “play” mostly AFK. Try to enlighten me again what about my statement “EvE is not for you” is horseshit. ---
**Author:** ![Ishmael\_Ronuken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ishmael_ronuken/32/209150_2.png) [@Ishmael\_Ronuken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ishmael_Ronuken)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2020, 1:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/back-to-the-game-is-low-attention-semi-afk-solo-mining-still-possible/254689/33 "2020-07-15T13:23:11Z")
You _literally_ quoted him when he said “casually” three times. I was explaining through my experience why I don’t believe EVE is a hardcore game. Why do you think I was calling BS otherwise? ---
**Author:** ![Foggy\_Bernstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/foggy_bernstein/32/407887_2.png) [@Foggy\_Bernstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Foggy_Bernstein)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2020, 6:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/back-to-the-game-is-low-attention-semi-afk-solo-mining-still-possible/254689/35 "2020-07-15T18:37:15Z")
> [@Bidermaier](#): > > So I wonder, is there any way to reasonably solo mine in eve at the moment? If by solo, you mean one player with a ton of accts, then you sure can. If by solo, you mean with one character, there are better ways to make a living. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2020, 6:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/back-to-the-game-is-low-attention-semi-afk-solo-mining-still-possible/254689/36 "2020-07-15T18:51:36Z")
> [@Foggy\_Bernstein](#): > > > [@Bidermaier](#): > > > > So I wonder, is there any way to reasonably solo mine in eve at the moment? > > If by solo, you mean one player with a ton of accts, then you sure can. > > If by solo, you mean with one character, there are better ways to make a living. If ever in my life I reach a point where I want to play an exciting video game about spaceship explosions and cutthroat politics by peacefully engaging in low-tier income generation without even being present at my computer, I would rather make a dying. ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2020, 6:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/back-to-the-game-is-low-attention-semi-afk-solo-mining-still-possible/254689/37 "2020-07-15T18:53:25Z")
as i said in other topic i entered a wormhole in a venture the other day and mined 60 million in gas solo people need to learn to play it would take 10 times more to make the same money in a 1000 times more expensive orca ---
**Author:** ![Mkikaden\_Tiragen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mkikaden_tiragen/32/243913_2.png) [@Mkikaden\_Tiragen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mkikaden_Tiragen)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2020, 6:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/back-to-the-game-is-low-attention-semi-afk-solo-mining-still-possible/254689/38 "2020-07-15T18:54:36Z")
> [@Foggy\_Bernstein](#): > > > [@Bidermaier](#): > > > > So I wonder, is there any way to reasonably solo mine in eve at the moment? > > If by solo, you mean one player with a ton of accts, then you sure can. > > If by solo, you mean with one character, there are better ways to make a living. QFT. It’s doable with one account. It’s not highly profitable, especially semi-afk, but it can be done. You can also semi-afk missions with certain ships (droneboats tend to do very well for security missions, since you don’t have to reload and aggressive drones will re-target on their own - @Archer_en_Tilavine has a lovely passive droneboat fit on his USIA website, as well as distribution mission fits for those who don’t want combat or don’t have much starting capital); I find missions more entertaining overall, and the side benefits (standings gain for reduced sales taxes at trade hubs, LP to spend, etc) are pretty useful. Don’t get me wrong: mining can be a very peaceful experience while still being productive, if you are careful about where you stage from and don’t make yourself look like a tasty target. I just like missions better for semi-afk activity, since mission runners are less common suicide ganking targets and can have fairly similar pure isk yield with a little forethought. ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2020, 6:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/back-to-the-game-is-low-attention-semi-afk-solo-mining-still-possible/254689/39 "2020-07-15T18:57:47Z")
i have some of @Iceacid_Frostpacker genes in my vein i like to mine ice i dont do it but i like it… its zen … i get it ---
**Author:** ![Foggy\_Bernstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/foggy_bernstein/32/407887_2.png) [@Foggy\_Bernstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Foggy_Bernstein)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2020, 7:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/back-to-the-game-is-low-attention-semi-afk-solo-mining-still-possible/254689/40 "2020-07-15T19:08:58Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > If ever in my life I reach a point where I want to play an exciting video game about spaceship explosions and cutthroat politics by peacefully engaging in low-tier income generation without even being present at my computer, I would rather make a dying. Thanks for sharing. But as far as I can tell, the only thing you play is the EVE-O forum. ---
**Author:** ![Rekindle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rekindle/32/382332_2.png) [@Rekindle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rekindle)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2020, 7:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/back-to-the-game-is-low-attention-semi-afk-solo-mining-still-possible/254689/41 "2020-07-15T19:09:48Z")
Abyssal sites \> hi sec mining ---
**Author:** ![Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/archer_en_tilavine/32/461718_2.png) [@Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Archer_en_Tilavine)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2020, 7:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/back-to-the-game-is-low-attention-semi-afk-solo-mining-still-possible/254689/42 "2020-07-15T19:10:45Z")
Watch out, man, Destiny will kill you until you die 💀 (BTW @Destiny_Corrupted I sent you an EVEmail 📨) [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/back-to-the-game-is-low-attention-semi-afk-solo-mining-still-possible/254689.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/back-to-the-game-is-low-attention-semi-afk-solo-mining-still-possible/254689.md?page=3)