# Balance Updates Coming with Uprising! **URL:** \ **Category:** Balance and Mechanics\ **Tags:** feedback, official, balance\ **Created:** [October 25, 2022, 3:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/balance-updates-coming-with-uprising/381876 "2022-10-25T15:30:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 17
**Author:** ![Hich](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hich/32/287600_2.png) [@Hich](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hich)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2022, 2:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/balance-updates-coming-with-uprising/381876/333 "2022-11-09T02:17:26Z")
After updating the hangars in the citadels, my fps dipped, is CCP thinking about doing optimization? šŸ¤” ---
**Author:** ![Toxic\_Raioin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/toxic_raioin/32/297720_2.png) [@Toxic\_Raioin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Toxic_Raioin)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2022, 2:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/balance-updates-coming-with-uprising/381876/334 "2022-11-09T02:33:34Z")
move to another ship til you can use the immaculate Paladin. ---
**Author:** ![Stitch\_Kaneland](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/stitch_kaneland/32/380745_2.png) [@Stitch\_Kaneland](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Stitch_Kaneland)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2022, 2:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/balance-updates-coming-with-uprising/381876/335 "2022-11-09T02:39:42Z")
Iā€™ll keep up with you continually being wrong. You conveniently left out the Ferox, Rail Proteus, Ishtar and Sentry Carrier (Slowcat) ā€œerasā€. The Tengu meta also did not involve missile Tenguā€™s, it was sneaky pete tenguā€™s which used railguns and a tiny sig + ECCM so they couldnā€™t be combat probed. The Eagle was also quite popular which is not a missile or projectile platform. Paladins are now also slowly inching their way into the meta. So stop acting like the meta is only projectiles and missiles and step outside your nullsec F1 warrior perspective of flying only what the FC tells you to. Lasers are fine and people use them all the time. The main change that needs to happen is a meta shift from T2 minmatar, which is literally happening but youā€™re too blind to see it. ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2022, 11:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/balance-updates-coming-with-uprising/381876/336 "2022-11-09T11:14:46Z")
> [@LTC\_DURAN](#): > > I made an Amarr character and put a lot of time into it just to use this ship I feel like all this work was for nothing, and no longer want to play this character. And the thought of building another character and putting a year in to it is sickening. I fully understand and sympathize with what youā€™re saying. Iā€™ve been a Capsuleer for over 14 years and the only thing I can say is - best get use to that happening on a regular basis. As for your current issue, just set up another ship. Actually itā€™s better to have a few different ships already set up, ready and waiting for use when needed. ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2022, 3:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/balance-updates-coming-with-uprising/381876/337 "2022-11-09T15:14:16Z")
> [@Toxic\_Raioin](#): > > move to another ship til you can use the immaculate Paladin. But didnā€™t you say that lasers were worthless? Why would you advocate for the Paladin if lasers are so bad? Shouldnā€™t you be advocating for the Golem? ---
**Author:** ![ResonanceOfWar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/resonanceofwar/32/408654_2.png) [@ResonanceOfWar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ResonanceOfWar)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2022, 4:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/balance-updates-coming-with-uprising/381876/338 "2022-11-09T16:38:33Z")
He makes 0 logical sense. ---
**Author:** ![Michele\_Thomas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/michele_thomas/32/328627_2.png) [@Michele\_Thomas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Michele_Thomas)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2022, 4:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/balance-updates-coming-with-uprising/381876/339 "2022-11-10T16:44:11Z")
Logging on this morning, the Drone Control Bandwidth on my ordinary Gallente Frigate Explorer Imicus has been halved from 20 Mbit/sec to only 10 Mbit/sec. This only allows two (2) active drones vice the previous four (4). Some of us have experimented with fitting and using various ships against type. This change restricts versitility and innovation and limits ship hulls in their role. Iā€™m really hopping this was an accident and not intentional. I understand that this change would apply to the NAVY Imicus, but didnā€™t think you would gut the capability of the regular Imicus. If so, you just made it next to useless for anything but exploring. Gallente are supposed to be combat drone focused. Why did I train my drone skills so high only to have this ship hulls drone combat strength reduced to that of the starter newby corvette? ---
**Author:** ![Stitch\_Kaneland](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/stitch_kaneland/32/380745_2.png) [@Stitch\_Kaneland](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Stitch_Kaneland)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2022, 8:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/balance-updates-coming-with-uprising/381876/340 "2022-11-10T20:01:01Z")
![imicus](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/4/4/1/4412d925a3cf04c8f5248869a651ce3e0670447b.png) Checking the attributes and simulating still shows 20 bandwidth for the T1 imicus. Did you by chance lose skills? Could also be a weird bug, try docking/redocking to force a session change and check if your drones return. Otherwise, if it still isnā€™t working, submit a bug report using the F12 option. The T1 imicus should still have 20Mbit/sec, it shouldnā€™t have changed (Even the Navy Imicus has 20Mbit/sec). ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2022, 8:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/balance-updates-coming-with-uprising/381876/341 "2022-11-10T20:06:05Z")
Another possibility: Have you perhaps fitted a warp core stabilizer on your Imicus? šŸ¤” ---
**Author:** ![ResonanceOfWar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/resonanceofwar/32/408654_2.png) [@ResonanceOfWar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ResonanceOfWar)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2022, 8:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/balance-updates-coming-with-uprising/381876/342 "2022-11-10T20:06:57Z")
That is probably it hahaha, no run away tactic goes unpunished. ---
**Author:** ![Stitch\_Kaneland](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/stitch_kaneland/32/380745_2.png) [@Stitch\_Kaneland](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Stitch_Kaneland)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2022, 8:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/balance-updates-coming-with-uprising/381876/343 "2022-11-10T20:10:16Z")
ah good catch ---
**Author:** ![Threv\_Echandari](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/threv_echandari/32/395366_2.png) [@Threv\_Echandari](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Threv_Echandari)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2022, 9:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/balance-updates-coming-with-uprising/381876/344 "2022-11-10T21:01:40Z")
Agreed, Iā€™m also going to point out here that tracking disruptors are far from useless especially when your opponents are using triglavian ships. Tracking disruption by far is one of the better/reliable ewar tools due to the nature of disintgrators. Itā€™s absolutely vital if youā€™re trying to keep a Kiki from controlling range. ---
**Author:** ![ResonanceOfWar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/resonanceofwar/32/408654_2.png) [@ResonanceOfWar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ResonanceOfWar)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2022, 7:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/balance-updates-coming-with-uprising/381876/345 "2022-11-11T07:26:08Z")
Yea or if you are ab fit and chuck a missile application bonus on the enemy you mitagate a crap ton of damage. ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2022, 10:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/balance-updates-coming-with-uprising/381876/346 "2022-11-11T22:12:46Z")
> [@Dyver\_Phycad](#): > > Why do you hurt the Zealot even more? It is already the most useless and most underused HAC and now it has the worst lock range of all HACs. Even the Deimos has more lock range although the primary weapon system used on the Deimos has an engagement range of 1km. This makes no sense. > > Not to mention that the Zealot needs help, not more nerfs. It needs help to fit its weapons and tank without fitting rigs, and it needs help to not be a sitting thanksgiving turkey waiting to be slaughtered. yah the deimos is a 1v1 powerhouse poor zea IMO CCP hate lazors šŸ˜­ ---
**Author:** ![ResonanceOfWar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/resonanceofwar/32/408654_2.png) [@ResonanceOfWar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ResonanceOfWar)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2022, 6:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/balance-updates-coming-with-uprising/381876/347 "2022-11-12T18:32:25Z")
CCP loves lazors look at all trig shipā€™s šŸ˜ƒ all op 500 tracking at 40kms np. ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2022, 8:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/balance-updates-coming-with-uprising/381876/348 "2022-11-12T20:15:59Z")
that ā– ā– ā– ā–  is not lazors ā˜¹ ---
**Author:** ![ResonanceOfWar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/resonanceofwar/32/408654_2.png) [@ResonanceOfWar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ResonanceOfWar)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2022, 9:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/balance-updates-coming-with-uprising/381876/349 "2022-11-12T21:45:36Z")
beams then šŸ˜› ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2022, 3:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/balance-updates-coming-with-uprising/381876/350 "2022-11-13T03:23:08Z")
They go bzzzzzzzzzzrt! With scortchy goodness. That technically makes them a laser. ---
**Author:** ![ResonanceOfWar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/resonanceofwar/32/408654_2.png) [@ResonanceOfWar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ResonanceOfWar)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2022, 10:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/balance-updates-coming-with-uprising/381876/351 "2022-11-13T10:30:13Z")
I guess a laser is photonā€™s maybe its another type of energy beam, not sure on the lore. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2022, 10:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/balance-updates-coming-with-uprising/381876/352 "2022-11-13T10:41:55Z")
> **[Heavy Entropic Disintegrator I - EVE Online Reference](https://everef.net/type/47273)** > > This medium-sized Entropic Disintegrator is normally seen in use on Triglavian cruisers or battlecruisers, which are able to handle the increased radiation and serious gravitational tidal forces the weapon generates as a side-effect of its... > ā€¦ convert exotic matter into a particle stream directed with locally generated entropic force ā€¦ The particle stream generates thermal and explosive reactions on impact, and the entropic forces resolve into a localized gravitational conduit that steadily increases the acceleration on the exotic particles. ā€¦ [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/balance-updates-coming-with-uprising/381876.md?page=16) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/balance-updates-coming-with-uprising/381876.md?page=18)