# Balancing an mmo

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**Category:** Out Of Pod Experience\
**Created:** [July 7, 2018, 10:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/balancing-an-mmo/87663 "2018-07-07T22:25:52Z")\
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**Author:** ![Old\_Pervert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/old_pervert/32/149708_2.png) [@Old\_Pervert](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Old_Pervert)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2018, 10:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/balancing-an-mmo/87663/21 "2018-07-11T22:10:07Z")

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> [@Ryan\_B\_Thiesant](#):
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> Where does it say EVE is PVP game, and not a game that includes PVP?

Falcon said it best, right here:

> [@CCP hands over FREE Faction Citadels to Powerbloc Leadership after Outpost Conversion](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ccp-hands-over-free-faction-citadels-to-powerbloc-leadership-after-outpost-conversion/72456/112):
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> EVE is not another MMO where you’re handed rewards on a silver platter. You work for your bread and you work to keep people from taking it away from you.
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> You succeed, or you starve to death.
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> That’s how it is.

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