# BAN the practice of NERFING ships, and repurpose them! BRING back the Antigank Marauders! **URL:** \ **Category:** Player Features & Ideas\ **Created:** [August 29, 2025, 10:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ban-the-practice-of-nerfing-ships-and-repurpose-them-bring-back-the-antigank-marauders/496705 "2025-08-29T10:38:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Queotzcatl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/queotzcatl/32/436120_2.png) [@Queotzcatl](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Queotzcatl)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2025, 2:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ban-the-practice-of-nerfing-ships-and-repurpose-them-bring-back-the-antigank-marauders/496705/21 "2025-08-31T14:49:15Z")
Another example, is when you activate a SKINR, it’s not possible to deactivate it, but if it would be possible to stick it to a ship, with sticky stats, then its value would increase exponentially… So there is a complete new way to think the NERF after you take into consideration HOW MUCH WASTED potential is laid off. Gankers would use these ships, unless their cost would be so low to justify their purchase. Sticky Stats SKILLS, that can not be NERFED retroactively. Think it this way. It’s an investment the moment you train it and stick it to a ship. Nobody would invest in something so costly, wittingly ignoring the fact that it could be retroactively NERF’D ---
**Author:** ![Queotzcatl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/queotzcatl/32/436120_2.png) [@Queotzcatl](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Queotzcatl)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2025, 2:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ban-the-practice-of-nerfing-ships-and-repurpose-them-bring-back-the-antigank-marauders/496705/22 "2025-08-31T14:55:07Z")
YEAH! THIS! Would you invest in a special SKILL just for ONE ship? Knowing if you lose the ship, it’s gone? You have to TraIn BACK FROM ZERO? I would! There’s people flying MARSHALLS where just one AMMO costs more than one Omega month in PLEX.. If only these special, HULL SPECIFIC skills, where left completely FREE from the yoke of CCP NERFS. ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2025, 3:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ban-the-practice-of-nerfing-ships-and-repurpose-them-bring-back-the-antigank-marauders/496705/23 "2025-08-31T15:47:34Z")
Alternating your caps lock key may not give the impression you want it to give. It makes me think of ![a4otzm](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/d/d/f/ddf5f764a64a6badb4ba011ab7b9e9186b7f5ec7.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2025, 3:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ban-the-practice-of-nerfing-ships-and-repurpose-them-bring-back-the-antigank-marauders/496705/24 "2025-08-31T15:49:06Z")
|\|o|\/|oR3|\|3RfZ!1!1 ---
**Author:** ![Dark\_Lord\_Trump](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dark_lord_trump/32/411482_2.png) [@Dark\_Lord\_Trump](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dark_Lord_Trump)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2025, 6:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ban-the-practice-of-nerfing-ships-and-repurpose-them-bring-back-the-antigank-marauders/496705/25 "2025-08-31T18:05:53Z")
> [@Queotzcatl](#): > > There’s people flying MARSHALLS where just one AMMO costs more than one Omega month in PLEX.. What ammo costs more than 2b a round (and can be used by a marshal)? Stop lying. ---
**Author:** ![Meridan\_Night](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/meridan_night/32/488304_2.png) [@Meridan\_Night](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Meridan_Night)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2025, 6:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ban-the-practice-of-nerfing-ships-and-repurpose-them-bring-back-the-antigank-marauders/496705/26 "2025-08-31T18:53:08Z")
> [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#): > > Iceland might become a US state soon enough. Don’t you mean Greenland? ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2025, 7:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ban-the-practice-of-nerfing-ships-and-repurpose-them-bring-back-the-antigank-marauders/496705/27 "2025-08-31T19:14:22Z")
Maybe he meant that people are multiboxing TITANS that shoot with MARSHALS! 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2025, 7:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ban-the-practice-of-nerfing-ships-and-repurpose-them-bring-back-the-antigank-marauders/496705/28 "2025-08-31T19:22:17Z")
> [@Meridan\_Night](#): > > Don’t you mean Greenland? Nope, that’s just the first step. Or do you think a megalomaniac will stop at the first step? 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![Meridan\_Night](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/meridan_night/32/488304_2.png) [@Meridan\_Night](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Meridan_Night)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2025, 9:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ban-the-practice-of-nerfing-ships-and-repurpose-them-bring-back-the-antigank-marauders/496705/29 "2025-08-31T21:00:56Z")
> [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#): > > Or do you think a megalomaniac will stop at the first step? Nope. ---
**Author:** ![Lesican](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lesican/32/448285_2.png) [@Lesican](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lesican)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2025, 9:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ban-the-practice-of-nerfing-ships-and-repurpose-them-bring-back-the-antigank-marauders/496705/30 "2025-09-01T09:36:37Z")
> [@Queotzcatl](#): > > Why Do I feel you people are so very similar to Finnish people? I don’t know… > > I hate Finnish police enforcement, they always steal my XXX…. > > if only your police could care enough BUT I DOUBT IT, IT MUST GET DRUNK WITH OTHER GUYS possessions… (metaphorically speaking) ![anti-racism_demonstration-first_task_force_hearing](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/f/2/5/f255ec172640841f369ca84aa0eac484d58a89fc.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Queotzcatl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/queotzcatl/32/436120_2.png) [@Queotzcatl](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Queotzcatl)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2025, 11:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ban-the-practice-of-nerfing-ships-and-repurpose-them-bring-back-the-antigank-marauders/496705/31 "2025-09-01T11:04:24Z")
Hyvää syyskuuta!! |\|o|\/|oR3|\|3RfZ!1!1!1!1 ---
**Author:** ![Swing\_Vote1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/swing_vote1/32/461282_2.png) [@Swing\_Vote1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Swing_Vote1)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2025, 1:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ban-the-practice-of-nerfing-ships-and-repurpose-them-bring-back-the-antigank-marauders/496705/32 "2025-09-01T13:33:37Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > ||o|/|oR3||3RfZ!1!1 Catalyst nerf incoming… ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/e/1/b/e1b0d97d89a35d53acd88c3936159b09695edd49.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2025, 1:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ban-the-practice-of-nerfing-ships-and-repurpose-them-bring-back-the-antigank-marauders/496705/33 "2025-09-01T13:48:13Z")
Please do not message me. We’ve talked about this already. ---
**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2025, 3:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ban-the-practice-of-nerfing-ships-and-repurpose-them-bring-back-the-antigank-marauders/496705/34 "2025-09-08T15:18:56Z")
If a ship is fit the best way possible and and the Capsuleer has the best skills possible to defeat and survive ganks repeatedly, why should a nerf take place that makes it equal for a ganker to take out a Marauder? Why should gankers fear bein equally matched opponent who can repeatedly defeat the bankers? Basically its rigging in favor of the gankers. There are no WARNINGS when activating our ships that something has changed! Then suggest to CCP games that design change has been incorporated into the ship that is able to be read on the Information Change documention tab located in the Ship’s Info. ---
**Author:** ![Malak\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malak_starfire/32/501915_2.png) [@Malak\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malak_Starfire)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2025, 6:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ban-the-practice-of-nerfing-ships-and-repurpose-them-bring-back-the-antigank-marauders/496705/35 "2025-09-08T18:29:21Z")
> [@DrysonBennington](#): > > why should a nerf take place that makes it equal for a ganker to take out a Marauder? The change was for PVP, not for gankers. The buff to ganking was a side effect. ---
**Author:** ![Queotzcatl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/queotzcatl/32/436120_2.png) [@Queotzcatl](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Queotzcatl)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2025, 8:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ban-the-practice-of-nerfing-ships-and-repurpose-them-bring-back-the-antigank-marauders/496705/36 "2025-09-09T20:40:49Z")
OK! WHO’s the BrighT m1ND that NERFED BASTION mode?!??! Why I can’t activate it FOR SAFETY REASONS?!?!? in a 0.9 sec system?!?!?! Is this Why??? And What Happen if I deactivates SAFETY and activate BASTION in a 0.9 sec MISSIONI?!?!? THE COPS WILL COME AND K1LL ME???!?!?! ---
**Author:** ![Queotzcatl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/queotzcatl/32/436120_2.png) [@Queotzcatl](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Queotzcatl)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2025, 8:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ban-the-practice-of-nerfing-ships-and-repurpose-them-bring-back-the-antigank-marauders/496705/37 "2025-09-09T20:53:05Z")
Exactly what HAPPENED to the BASTION safety systems engagements??? Do you know, have read, anything about CAN’T ACTIVATE for SAFETY REASONS??? The Module description says N0th1Ng about -rules of engagement- based on WHAT is being deemed DANGEROUS or a SUSPECT ACT??? I DOn’t rememeber EVER not being able to activate BASTION in HIGH SEC. The ONLY TIME I survived a WAVE of 20 Gankers in mY GOLEM, I was in OSMON, High Sec, and ACTIVATED BASTION IMMEDIATELY or my GOLEM wouldn’t be here now…. What happened??? WHY there are still no WARNINGS for such UPDATES??? I did an entire lev4 Mission without the Bastion module… ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2025, 8:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ban-the-practice-of-nerfing-ships-and-repurpose-them-bring-back-the-antigank-marauders/496705/38 "2025-09-09T20:57:31Z")
I dOnNTKNoW wh4t 1Z h4pp3n1ng!!11! ---
**Author:** ![Queotzcatl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/queotzcatl/32/436120_2.png) [@Queotzcatl](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Queotzcatl)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2025, 9:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ban-the-practice-of-nerfing-ships-and-repurpose-them-bring-back-the-antigank-marauders/496705/39 "2025-09-09T21:01:19Z")
Yeah, the change was WRONG! You need to BUFF one or two OTHER T2 Battleships…. A Vindy, a repper, and a SIN, will take down any MARAUDER ANY TIME of the day…. The fact that PVPers now with Marauders could blast away entire bubbles squads and all PVE players got SCREWED again, it’s a massive WIN for the PROPAGANDIST and loss for us honest PVE players… Really to FIX the Marauder Overpower they just needed to Buff a little MORE the BLACK OPS, and some PIRATE BS…. That’s it…. Take the BHAALGHORN, a VINDY and a SIN, and your VARGUR/GOLEM(KRONOS, is dead in the water… Instead they screwed all the PVE Marauders players that fought for years to have just a little more effective protection against gankers… with enough organization, no Marauder is invincible… AiKO KNOWS THIS PERFECTLY WELL!!! ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2025, 9:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ban-the-practice-of-nerfing-ships-and-repurpose-them-bring-back-the-antigank-marauders/496705/40 "2025-09-09T21:02:35Z")
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