# Banning repeated gankers from highsec **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [March 7, 2018, 8:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/banning-repeated-gankers-from-highsec/61576 "2018-03-07T08:20:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 30
**Author:** ![Lenneth\_Invicta](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lenneth_invicta/32/77812_2.png) [@Lenneth\_Invicta](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lenneth_Invicta)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2018, 10:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/banning-repeated-gankers-from-highsec/61576/586 "2018-05-27T22:17:17Z")
Hey guys, remember. I’m not arguing semantics. ---
**Author:** ![Alexi\_Stokov](https://imageserver.eveonline.com/Character/1_512.jpg) [@Alexi\_Stokov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alexi_Stokov)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2018, 11:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/banning-repeated-gankers-from-highsec/61576/587 "2018-05-27T23:20:17Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > Ganking: Aggressing a target with superior numbers. > > Suicide Ganking: Aggressing a target with superior numbers, incurring CONCORD reaction. (Suicide by cop) > > Gate-Camping: Spawn-camping. > > Creep-jacking: Aggressing a target while they are engaged in PvE vs NPCs. Why does suicide ganking only involve concord? A small gang deciding to hit a specific target in a larger gang/ highly effective group where there’s a large chance of not getting out would be a suicide gank as well. Oh and why does ganking have to be superior numbers? I’m in a shuttle that gets alpha-ed by one guy as soon as I come out of warp…that’s not a gank? I certainly called it one. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2018, 5:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/banning-repeated-gankers-from-highsec/61576/588 "2018-05-28T05:28:46Z")
> [@Alexi\_Stokov](#): > > Why does suicide ganking only involve concord? If it doesnt involve CONCORD, its just a gank. I guess you could also use the term “Illegal gank”, if you prefer. ---
**Author:** ![Mike\_s\_Salesman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mike_s_salesman/32/56320_2.png) [@Mike\_s\_Salesman](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mike_s_Salesman)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2018, 7:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/banning-repeated-gankers-from-highsec/61576/589 "2018-05-28T07:35:24Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > Binary also is not a mathematical system. While this post is quite old I actually have to say: ahahahahahahahahahahah \*takes breath hahahahahahahahahahah \*takes another deep breath ahahahahahahahahahahahahaha \*faints from laughing \*falls from chair and wakes up on impact ahahahahahahahahahahahaha How did I miss that one? ahahahahahahahahahaha ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2018, 7:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/banning-repeated-gankers-from-highsec/61576/590 "2018-05-28T07:39:15Z")
Binary is not a mathematical system. Its a mathematical language, comprised only of 0 and 1, as no/yes, respectively. ---
**Author:** ![Mike\_s\_Salesman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mike_s_salesman/32/56320_2.png) [@Mike\_s\_Salesman](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mike_s_Salesman)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2018, 7:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/banning-repeated-gankers-from-highsec/61576/591 "2018-05-28T07:41:52Z")
It´s as much as a mathematical system as the decimal system, the tetral system or any other system. But keep going, you just once again show that you have no god damn clue, what you are talking about. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2018, 7:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/banning-repeated-gankers-from-highsec/61576/592 "2018-05-28T07:47:26Z")
Its a system of mathematical expression (ie: language). Its not a mathematical system, in and of itself. ---
**Author:** ![Mike\_s\_Salesman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mike_s_salesman/32/56320_2.png) [@Mike\_s\_Salesman](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mike_s_Salesman)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2018, 7:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/banning-repeated-gankers-from-highsec/61576/593 "2018-05-28T07:49:33Z")
Yes it is, I ll give you a little hint: Decimal System: Mathematical number system with the base 10 Hexadecimal system: Mathematical number system with the base 16 Tetral system: Mathematical number system with the base 4 Binary system: Mathematical number System with the base? . . . . . right… 2 ---
**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2018, 8:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/banning-repeated-gankers-from-highsec/61576/594 "2018-05-28T08:00:31Z")
> [@Ima\_Wreckyou](#): > > Your post is absolutely spot on. > > What I always found is, that the conflict/anger introduced by ganking a ship is something which has to be used to create more content. CODE thinks that it is creating game content that benefits the game as a whole. If a study were done the study would prove that CODE i no way produces any type of content. A blob gank is not content. The blob gank in High Sec is nothing more than bots and alts flown by a few individuals to blob gank targets that CODE would otherwise have to spend ISK and even real money to war dec the freighter pilots that they normally gank freely. I would like to see a study conducted on the money the CCP has lost to CODE’s free ganking tactics. Instead of CCP losing money they could be making even more money from CODE having to spend real money to conduct their ganks through war decs. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2018, 8:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/banning-repeated-gankers-from-highsec/61576/595 "2018-05-28T08:04:04Z")
> [@Mike\_s\_Salesman](#): > > Binary system: Mathematical number System with the base? Ie: Mathematical language. ---
**Author:** ![Mike\_s\_Salesman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mike_s_salesman/32/56320_2.png) [@Mike\_s\_Salesman](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mike_s_Salesman)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2018, 8:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/banning-repeated-gankers-from-highsec/61576/596 "2018-05-28T08:06:11Z")
Yes, yes and the hexadecimal system is in reality a colorwheel… Seriously you should learn when to stop and just admit when you are wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2018, 8:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/banning-repeated-gankers-from-highsec/61576/597 "2018-05-28T08:11:17Z")
Binary is just a mathematical language. It cant perform any calculations/mathematics, on its own, unless a true mathematical system is applied to it. ---
**Author:** ![Mike\_s\_Salesman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mike_s_salesman/32/56320_2.png) [@Mike\_s\_Salesman](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mike_s_Salesman)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2018, 8:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/banning-repeated-gankers-from-highsec/61576/598 "2018-05-28T08:14:40Z")
Of course it can… you can add, subtract or even multiply and divide binary values without any transition to any other numerical system. But of course as you do not know how to, that certainly can not be real right? Anyway… enough with this off topic stuff… I ll just silently keep laughing about you, while you keep making a fool of yourself. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2018, 8:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/banning-repeated-gankers-from-highsec/61576/599 "2018-05-28T08:16:39Z")
> [@Mike\_s\_Salesman](#): > > Of course it can… you can add, subtract or even multiply and divide binary values without any transition to any other numerical system. > [Binary number - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_number#/media/File:Binary_counter.gif) The process of addition is a mathematical system. Binary is just a language of mathematical expression, to which mathematical systems can be applied. ---
**Author:** ![Mike\_s\_Salesman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mike_s_salesman/32/56320_2.png) [@Mike\_s\_Salesman](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mike_s_Salesman)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2018, 8:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/banning-repeated-gankers-from-highsec/61576/600 "2018-05-28T08:22:35Z")
A mathematical system consists of a set of elements and one or more binary operations to connect these elements. A binary operation is an operation that combines two elements of a set to give a single element. e.g. multiplication 3 x 4 = 12 Last and final words on this one. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2018, 8:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/banning-repeated-gankers-from-highsec/61576/601 "2018-05-28T08:24:02Z")
You are confusing/conflating mathematical language/expression systems, with mathematical systems. ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2018, 9:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/banning-repeated-gankers-from-highsec/61576/602 "2018-05-28T09:21:41Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > > [@Mike\_s\_Salesman](#): > > > > Of course it can… you can add, subtract or even multiply and divide binary values without any transition to any other numerical system. > > > [Binary number - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_number#/media/File:Binary_counter.gif) > > The process of addition is a mathematical system. > Binary is just a language of mathematical expression, to which mathematical systems can be applied. Even on the wiki article this picture comes from you linked it says: > In mathematics and digital electronics, a binary number is a number expressed in the **base-2 numeral system** or **binary numeral system** , which uses only two symbols: typically 0 (zero) and 1 (one). As Mike already told you, numbers are not a mathematical language, they are simply abstract representations of a set. Another clear case of Dunning-Kruger ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2018, 10:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/banning-repeated-gankers-from-highsec/61576/603 "2018-05-28T10:56:41Z")
> [@Ima\_Wreckyou](#): > > As Mike already told you, numbers are not a mathematical language, they are simply abstract representations of a set. Numbers, in whatever form, are a language which is applied in mathematical systems. They are not themselves a mathematical system. ---
**Author:** ![Mike\_s\_Salesman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mike_s_salesman/32/56320_2.png) [@Mike\_s\_Salesman](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mike_s_Salesman)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2018, 11:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/banning-repeated-gankers-from-highsec/61576/604 "2018-05-28T11:14:05Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > > [@Ima\_Wreckyou](#): > > > > As Mike already told you, numbers are not a mathematical language, they are simply abstract representations of a set. > > Numbers, in whatever form, are a language which is applied in mathematical systems. > They are not themselves a mathematical system. Show me where I claimed that numbers themselves are a mathematical system. Once again, as you are cornered you just pull crap nobody ever said out of your behind. Why is it so hard for you to just admit that you are wrong? Is your ego really that fragile that the only course of action for you is to just write nonsense over and over again until the other side gets bored of your crap, so that you then can claim victory for yourself totally ignoring the fact that you were wrong in the first place? ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2018, 11:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/banning-repeated-gankers-from-highsec/61576/605 "2018-05-28T11:22:01Z")
> [@Mike\_s\_Salesman](#): > > Show me where I claimed that numbers themselves are a mathematical system. Binary is a form of expressing mathematical values, as language. Its not a mathematical system, in and of itself. IE: Binary is a language, in the same way that Spanish is a language. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/banning-repeated-gankers-from-highsec/61576.md?page=29) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/banning-repeated-gankers-from-highsec/61576.md?page=31)