# Banning repeated gankers from highsec

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/banning-repeated-gankers-from-highsec/61576>\
**Category:** Crime & Punishment\
**Created:** [March 7, 2018, 8:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/banning-repeated-gankers-from-highsec/61576 "2018-03-07T08:20:25Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 35

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**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 8:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/banning-repeated-gankers-from-highsec/61576/691 "2018-06-08T20:33:11Z")

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> [@Tecros\_Shtemerk](#):
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> That does not give them permission to bully new or poor players.

I know what you’re trying to say and I get your point, ganking is evil, and there is no question about it. But it is an evil, which is permitted by CCP. It represents a challenge for the mind. It creates a situation where you need to think and find a way to live with an impossible problem.

The moment you accept the presence of evil, to learn to live with it, and don’t become a part of it, that’s when you win. At least that’s how it’s for me.

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**Author:** ![Tecros\_Shtemerk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tecros_shtemerk/32/194847_2.png) [@Tecros\_Shtemerk](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tecros_Shtemerk)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 9:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/banning-repeated-gankers-from-highsec/61576/692 "2018-06-08T21:28:50Z")

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OMG, one must fight evil, not accept it!

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**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 9:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/banning-repeated-gankers-from-highsec/61576/693 "2018-06-08T21:30:49Z")

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> [@Tecros\_Shtemerk](#):
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> OMG, one must fight evil, not accept it!

It’s not an evil when it can be fought. It is an evil, because it cannot be fought.

I never got myself a tattoo, but if I may make this comparison then I’d say playing EVE is like getting a tattoo. You either accept the pain, which comes with it and makes it special, or you simply don’t want any of it.

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**Author:** ![Chii\_leck\_Hudson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chii_leck_hudson/32/13988_2.png) [@Chii\_leck\_Hudson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chii_leck_Hudson)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 11:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/banning-repeated-gankers-from-highsec/61576/694 "2018-06-08T23:51:44Z")

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> [@AureuSZ](#):
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> im not “just crying about a loss”

> [@AureuSZ](#):
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> Yes it did make me stop the game, so yeah a bit of a rage quit if you want

i love it when people contradict themselves 6 lines below something they had just written

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**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2018, 4:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/banning-repeated-gankers-from-highsec/61576/695 "2018-06-09T04:15:39Z")

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> [@Tecros\_Shtemerk](#):
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> OMG, one must fight evil, not accept it!

So who is the evil guy, the ganker who plays the game by the rules or the liar who comes to the forums and uses newbros as a shield to try to make his own chosen way of playing easier because he is unwilling to invest the minimal amount of time required to secure it himself with tools already available a.k.a. playing the game?

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**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2018, 6:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/banning-repeated-gankers-from-highsec/61576/696 "2018-06-09T06:23:46Z")

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> [@Chii\_leck\_Hudson](#):
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> > [@AureuSZ](#):
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> > im not “just crying about a loss”
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> > [@AureuSZ](#):
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> > Yes it did make me stop the game, so yeah a bit of a rage quit if you want
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> i **love** it when people contradict themselves 6 lines below something they had just written

No, you don’t. You only love having an ugly reading comprehension. It’s not a contradiction when it shows how someone has changed. He explained how it’s now different. It’s also “they have just written”, and not “they had just written”.

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**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2018, 8:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/banning-repeated-gankers-from-highsec/61576/697 "2018-06-09T08:16:04Z")

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SOMEONE PLEASE POST PROOF THAT GANKING IS GETTING OUT OF HAND!  
ALL I EVER SEE IS PROOF THAT IT IS NOT!

What a bunch of self touching loners.

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**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2018, 8:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/banning-repeated-gankers-from-highsec/61576/698 "2018-06-09T08:39:22Z")

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You know how this works. Just claim that newbros are quiting because of whatever you don’t like so you don’t have to come up with solutions to your strugle on your own.

And then just ignore all evidence against your uninformed opinion and pretend that your gut feelings and invented stories are superior to the scientific approach the very creator of the game took to answer the question.

The “carebear hypothesis” that losing ships by ganking, wardecs or whatever reason is bad for player retention has been falsified by CCP directly MULTIPLE TIMES!!!

There is no excuse to ignore this data! If you ignore it anyway you are a liar and a fraud and your motivation is exposed the second you do it as : You’r just really really bad at the game and cry for moms help to tip it in your favour. That is really all you do and all you are!!

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**Author:** ![Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mevatla_vekraspek/32/377519_2.png) [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mevatla_Vekraspek)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2018, 9:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/banning-repeated-gankers-from-highsec/61576/699 "2018-06-09T09:07:59Z")

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Evil is necessary. Someone has to be evil. There’s no good if there’s no evil, no beautiful if there’s no ugly and above all no life if there’s no death. No suicide ganking, no suicide ganking tears filled posts.

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**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2018, 9:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/banning-repeated-gankers-from-highsec/61576/700 "2018-06-09T09:42:48Z")

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> [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](#):
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> Evil is necessary. Someone has to be evil.

No, it’s not.

You only fight evil with evil until there is no more evil. Gankers don’t think of their victims as good. They think of them as a different evil. Until both explode.

It doesn’t make it a necessity.

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**Author:** ![Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mevatla_vekraspek/32/377519_2.png) [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mevatla_Vekraspek)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2018, 9:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/banning-repeated-gankers-from-highsec/61576/701 "2018-06-09T09:45:01Z")

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It is, good has no meaning if you can’t measure it to evil.

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**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2018, 9:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/banning-repeated-gankers-from-highsec/61576/702 "2018-06-09T09:46:03Z")

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> [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](#):
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> It is, good has no meaning if you can’t measure it to evil.

Then why do you fight evil when you think you need it?

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**Author:** ![Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mevatla_vekraspek/32/377519_2.png) [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mevatla_Vekraspek)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2018, 9:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/banning-repeated-gankers-from-highsec/61576/703 "2018-06-09T09:49:15Z")

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because the opposite is true too. You can’t have one without the other, therefore you need good people to fight evil, and evil people to ruin you life for their own profit. And popcorn.

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**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2018, 9:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/banning-repeated-gankers-from-highsec/61576/704 "2018-06-09T09:50:07Z")

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> [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](#):
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> because the opposite is true too. You can’t have one without the other, therefore you need good people to fight evil, and evil people to ruin you life for their own profit. And popcorn.

Please, do take a fork and poke your eyes out. See if you need it. I’ll get me some popcorn.

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**Author:** ![Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mevatla_vekraspek/32/377519_2.png) [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mevatla_Vekraspek)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2018, 9:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/banning-repeated-gankers-from-highsec/61576/705 "2018-06-09T09:52:26Z")

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Why, because you don’t understand that simple fact? You wish physical harm, this is were evil start…

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**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2018, 9:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/banning-repeated-gankers-from-highsec/61576/706 "2018-06-09T09:53:20Z")

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> [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](#):
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> Why, because you don’t understand that simple fact?

Because I’m evil and I’m telling you to do it.

So now you suddenly don’t need it?

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**Author:** ![Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mevatla_vekraspek/32/377519_2.png) [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mevatla_Vekraspek)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2018, 9:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/banning-repeated-gankers-from-highsec/61576/707 "2018-06-09T09:55:10Z")

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That’s your absolute right, you can be evil. But you have to be a little bit more convicing…

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**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2018, 9:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/banning-repeated-gankers-from-highsec/61576/708 "2018-06-09T09:56:18Z")

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> [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](#):
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> That’s your absolute right, you can be evil. But you have to be a little bit more convicing…

Maybe it’s you who isn’t convincing. But do you know how you can find out? Take a fork and poke your eyes out. See for yourself. If you’re convinced of it then it shouldn’t matter if I’m wrong or right.

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**Author:** ![Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mevatla_vekraspek/32/377519_2.png) [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mevatla_Vekraspek)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2018, 10:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/banning-repeated-gankers-from-highsec/61576/709 "2018-06-09T10:00:15Z")

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All i can see here is that i stated simple facts and out of you disagreement you asked me to hurt myself.

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**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2018, 10:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/banning-repeated-gankers-from-highsec/61576/710 "2018-06-09T10:00:58Z")

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> [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](#):
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> All i can see here is that i stated simple facts and out of you disagreement you asked me to hurt myself.

That’s because you’re still holding onto your eyes. Looks like you need them more than you need evil.

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