# Banning repeated gankers from highsec

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/banning-repeated-gankers-from-highsec/61576>\
**Category:** Crime & Punishment\
**Created:** [March 7, 2018, 8:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/banning-repeated-gankers-from-highsec/61576 "2018-03-07T08:20:25Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2018, 10:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/banning-repeated-gankers-from-highsec/61576/711 "2018-06-09T10:01:59Z")

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If I want to burn Highsec down so we can rebuild it perfect as James 315 envisions it, then some may think that is evil. I’m however convinced that it is mercy and passion and those who oppose my righteous path are evil.

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**Author:** ![Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mevatla_vekraspek/32/377519_2.png) [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mevatla_Vekraspek)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2018, 10:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/banning-repeated-gankers-from-highsec/61576/712 "2018-06-09T10:02:51Z")

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Evil is the other guy misunderstandig…

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**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2018, 10:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/banning-repeated-gankers-from-highsec/61576/713 "2018-06-09T10:03:13Z")

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> [@Ima\_Wreckyou](#):
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> If I want to burn Highsec down so we can rebuild it perfect as James 315 envisions it, then some may think that is evil. I’m however convinced that it is mercy and passion and those who oppose my righteous path are evil.

There you go. Evil fights evil until there is no more.

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**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2018, 10:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/banning-repeated-gankers-from-highsec/61576/714 "2018-06-09T10:04:11Z")

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> [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](#):
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> Evil is the other guy misunderstandig…

So we do have an understanding. Just look how well this turned out after all. Still think it’s necessary?

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**Author:** ![Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mevatla_vekraspek/32/377519_2.png) [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mevatla_Vekraspek)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2018, 10:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/banning-repeated-gankers-from-highsec/61576/715 "2018-06-09T10:05:11Z")

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I never said i needed evil, i said good needed evil.

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**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2018, 10:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/banning-repeated-gankers-from-highsec/61576/716 "2018-06-09T10:07:25Z")

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> [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](#):
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> I never said i needed evil

> [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](#):
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> Evil is necessary.

Having a forum where one can scroll up to see what somebody wrote previously… that can be an evil, too.

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**Author:** ![Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mevatla_vekraspek/32/377519_2.png) [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mevatla_Vekraspek)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2018, 10:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/banning-repeated-gankers-from-highsec/61576/717 "2018-06-09T10:08:22Z")

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you don’t understand simple words?

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**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2018, 10:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/banning-repeated-gankers-from-highsec/61576/718 "2018-06-09T10:09:43Z")

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> [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](#):
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> you don’t understand simple words?

Are you begging to be forgiven?

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**Author:** ![Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mevatla_vekraspek/32/377519_2.png) [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mevatla_Vekraspek)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2018, 10:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/banning-repeated-gankers-from-highsec/61576/719 "2018-06-09T10:09:45Z")

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do you understand the difference between “i need evil” and “evil is necessary”?

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**Author:** ![Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mevatla_vekraspek/32/377519_2.png) [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mevatla_Vekraspek)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2018, 10:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/banning-repeated-gankers-from-highsec/61576/720 "2018-06-09T10:10:26Z")

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being despised by idiots is delightful

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**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2018, 10:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/banning-repeated-gankers-from-highsec/61576/721 "2018-06-09T10:12:08Z")

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> [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](#):
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> being despised by idiots is delightful

Just fighting evil with evil.

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**Author:** ![Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mevatla_vekraspek/32/377519_2.png) [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mevatla_Vekraspek)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2018, 10:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/banning-repeated-gankers-from-highsec/61576/722 "2018-06-09T10:15:41Z")

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you like pouring gasoline on the fire too?

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**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2018, 10:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/banning-repeated-gankers-from-highsec/61576/723 "2018-06-09T10:17:13Z")

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> [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](#):
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> you like pouring gasoline on the fire too?

What’s the brand of the gasoline?

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**Author:** ![Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mevatla_vekraspek/32/377519_2.png) [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mevatla_Vekraspek)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2018, 10:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/banning-repeated-gankers-from-highsec/61576/724 "2018-06-09T10:18:42Z")

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as long as it’s jet fuel…

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**Author:** ![NotTheSmartestCookie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/notthesmartestcookie/32/168266_2.png) [@NotTheSmartestCookie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/NotTheSmartestCookie)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2018, 10:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/banning-repeated-gankers-from-highsec/61576/725 "2018-06-09T10:37:26Z")

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Jet fuel won’t melt steel beams!

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**Author:** ![Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mevatla_vekraspek/32/377519_2.png) [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mevatla_Vekraspek)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2018, 10:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/banning-repeated-gankers-from-highsec/61576/726 "2018-06-09T10:40:49Z")

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sshh! my insurance company doesn’t know that

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**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2018, 11:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/banning-repeated-gankers-from-highsec/61576/727 "2018-06-09T11:05:55Z")

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> [@AureuSZ](#):
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> things have to be a little safer for industrialists and miners.

No, they don’t. Go away… again.

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**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2018, 11:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/banning-repeated-gankers-from-highsec/61576/728 "2018-06-09T11:54:41Z")

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> [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](#):
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> > [@AureuSZ](#):
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> > things have to be a little safer for industrialists and miners.
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> No, they don’t. Go away… again.

You always remind me of that guy from the last two Foundation books who is always right but can’t explain why 😉

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**Author:** ![NotTheSmartestCookie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/notthesmartestcookie/32/168266_2.png) [@NotTheSmartestCookie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/NotTheSmartestCookie)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2018, 2:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/banning-repeated-gankers-from-highsec/61576/729 "2018-06-09T14:46:47Z")

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> [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](#):
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> > [@AureuSZ](#):
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> > things have to be a little safer for industrialists and miners.
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> No, they don’t. Go away… again.

Obviously he means “Miners and haulers need to AFK a little less”. Lucky for him there is a great group of players dedicated to that very purpose. Want to know more? Visit [www.minerbumping.com](http://www.minerbumping.com).

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**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2018, 3:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/banning-repeated-gankers-from-highsec/61576/730 "2018-06-09T15:49:03Z")

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> [@AureuSZ](#):
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> If it was a little more balanced between what you have to lose vs what you have to win and effort to pull off, I’d have brushed the loss away, as I always did in fair (or unfair/ganks) pvp fights.

Since it takes 20-30 people to pull it off, i mean, ive roamed with Spectre Fleet and we had fewer people than that. Each individual Catalyst is cheap, sure. But as a collective, you have to understand that almost every single character is subbed, by paying plex or real money, and that they have to pay for 30 catalysts or 20 taloses or whatever they use to gank the ship.

I feel the balance is perfectly fine. Imagine if you had to pay for 20 accounts to do something to a single player.

> [@AureuSZ](#):
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> It even makes no sense in the game setting and breaks immersion. (people suicide ganking in an SF setting is just plain stupid imo.)

And when im clealry shooting at you from the back, and yet your engines are perfectly fine while you are in 20% hull, that breaks immersion and makes no sense in the game settings either. But this is a video game, and more importantly, fiction. Dont cry about immersion breaking in a video game about science fiction.

You know whats really immersion breaking, though? Not being able to bribe Concord to look the other way.

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