# Battleship for Angel Active Ratting - need advice and fits

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**Category:** PvE Ships & Modules\
**Tags:** null-sec, pve\
**Created:** [September 9, 2018, 5:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/battleship-for-angel-active-ratting-need-advice-and-fits/105187 "2018-09-09T17:58:30Z")\
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**Author:** ![Pewkins](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pewkins/32/154421_2.png) [@Pewkins](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pewkins)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 5:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/battleship-for-angel-active-ratting-need-advice-and-fits/105187/1 "2018-09-09T17:58:30Z")

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Which will be better for active Null-Sec ratting in anomalies without paying stupid ISK for bling?  
So i can fly Rattlesnake and Machcariel, most popular ones, pretty well.  
Spaceship skills are all 5 for them.Torps and Cruise are in LVL4 specialization. 800mm t2 cannons are LVl2 spec now. Racial drones are lvl3 now.  
Any other suggestions within 800m - 1.3 bil range?

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**Author:** ![Dread\_Saboteur](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dread_saboteur/32/270709_2.png) [@Dread\_Saboteur](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dread_Saboteur)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 6:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/battleship-for-angel-active-ratting-need-advice-and-fits/105187/2 "2018-09-09T18:19:49Z")

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Well alot would work some I can think of gila Ishtar loki tengu but that’s me cuz I mostly prefer faster smaller ships

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**Author:** ![erg\_cz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/erg_cz/32/392645_2.png) [@erg\_cz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/erg_cz)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 7:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/battleship-for-angel-active-ratting-need-advice-and-fits/105187/3 "2018-09-10T07:44:23Z")

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I do not know why people think of gila or tengu if OP asks for Battleship, but this is the cheaper version of my rather blinged Rattlesnake I used when I rat in Impass:  
[Rattlesnake, Angels cheap]

Ballistic Control System II  
Ballistic Control System II  
Co-Processor II  
Drone Damage Amplifier II  
Drone Damage Amplifier II  
C3-X ‘Hivaa Saitsuo’ Ballistic Control System

Missile Guidance Computer II, Missile Range Script  
Pith B-Type X-Large Shield Booster  
Explosive Deflection Field II  
Large Micro Jump Drive  
Missile Guidance Computer II, Missile Range Script  
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 3200  
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II

Drone Link Augmentor II  
Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile  
Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile  
Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile  
Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile  
Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile

Large Anti-Explosive Screen Reinforcer II  
Large Bay Loading Accelerator I  
Large Warhead Flare Catalyst II

Berserker II x2  
Bouncer II x2  
Warden II x2  
Warrior II x5

The problem is that you have to watch out your targets health and switch launchers to next one as soon as it is in half armor. Otherwise you lose volleys.  
Other problem is that in some escalations you will need something like that:  
[Rattlesnake, polarized max dps]

C3-X ‘Hivaa Saitsuo’ Ballistic Control System  
C3-X ‘Hivaa Saitsuo’ Ballistic Control System  
C3-X ‘Hivaa Saitsuo’ Ballistic Control System  
C3-X ‘Hivaa Saitsuo’ Ballistic Control System  
Imperial Navy Drone Damage Amplifier  
Imperial Navy Drone Damage Amplifier

Caldari Navy Large Shield Extender  
Caldari Navy Large Shield Extender  
Caldari Navy Large Shield Extender  
Caldari Navy Large Shield Extender  
100MN Monopropellant Enduring Afterburner  
Large Shield Extender II  
Large Shield Extender II

[Empty High slot]  
Polarized Torpedo Launcher, Inferno Rage Torpedo  
Polarized Torpedo Launcher, Inferno Rage Torpedo  
Polarized Torpedo Launcher, Inferno Rage Torpedo  
Polarized Torpedo Launcher, Inferno Rage Torpedo  
Polarized Torpedo Launcher, Inferno Rage Torpedo

Large Bay Loading Accelerator I  
Large Warhead Flare Catalyst I  
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I

‘Augmented’ Ogre x2

With best implants you can afford to kill final structure (it is repping very fast.) And even this may not have sufficient DPS to do it solo. Truely speaking being not able to finish escalation myself made me thionk about skilling to  
[Leshak, over 3100 DPS cold]

Entropic Radiation Sink II  
Entropic Radiation Sink II  
Entropic Radiation Sink II  
Entropic Radiation Sink II  
Entropic Radiation Sink II  
Imperial Navy Drone Damage Amplifier  
Imperial Navy Drone Damage Amplifier  
Imperial Navy Drone Damage Amplifier

Cap Recharger II  
Cap Recharger II  
Cap Recharger II  
Large Micro Jump Drive

Supratidal Entropic Disintegrator II, Occult L  
Large EMP Smartbomb II  
Large EMP Smartbomb II  
Large ‘Vehemence’ Shockwave Charge  
Large ‘Vehemence’ Shockwave Charge

Large Capacitor Control Circuit II  
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I  
Large Processor Overclocking Unit I

Warden II x4  
Ogre II x4

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**Author:** ![Serhii\_Komendant](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/serhii_komendant/32/46826_2.png) [@Serhii\_Komendant](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Serhii_Komendant)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 9:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/battleship-for-angel-active-ratting-need-advice-and-fits/105187/4 "2018-09-12T09:21:41Z")

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How Nightmare and Vindicator rat in anoms nowadays with fits please? I’d really like a ship which will not be dependent on drone DPS and just warp off at the first sight of neut in local without clicking drone recall

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**Author:** ![Dread\_Saboteur](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dread_saboteur/32/270709_2.png) [@Dread\_Saboteur](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dread_Saboteur)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 7:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/battleship-for-angel-active-ratting-need-advice-and-fits/105187/5 "2018-09-12T19:43:34Z")

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[Nightmare, Nightmare]  
Dark Blood Heat Sink  
Dark Blood Heat Sink  
Dark Blood Heat Sink  
Capacitor Flux Coil II  
Capacitor Flux Coil II  
Capacitor Flux Coil II

Gist X-Type X-Large Shield Booster  
Gist X-Type 100MN Afterburner  
Federation Navy Tracking Computer  
Federation Navy Tracking Computer  
Imperial Navy Cap Recharger  
Pithum C-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field  
Pith X-Type Shield Boost Amplifier

Tachyon Beam Laser II  
Tachyon Beam Laser II  
Tachyon Beam Laser II  
Tachyon Beam Laser II  
[empty high slot]  
[empty high slot]

Large Energy Locus Coordinator II  
Large Energy Metastasis Adjuster I  
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I

This is something I copied and improved from my local friendly neighborhood bots theirs are way cheaper and have no propulsion module

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**Author:** ![Scryptic\_Menzies](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scryptic_menzies/32/242479_2.png) [@Scryptic\_Menzies](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scryptic_Menzies)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 8:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/battleship-for-angel-active-ratting-need-advice-and-fits/105187/6 "2018-09-12T20:52:50Z")

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Finally! A use for bots! 😃

Copying their fits…

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**Author:** ![Pewkins](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pewkins/32/154421_2.png) [@Pewkins](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pewkins)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2018, 6:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/battleship-for-angel-active-ratting-need-advice-and-fits/105187/7 "2018-09-13T06:54:24Z")

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Seems way too much bling for Nightmare. With that tank it oughtta be staying still and sniping, not running circles. Whet’s the optimal and what anoms you do in it ? How does it fare?

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**Author:** ![elitatwo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elitatwo/32/373473_2.png) [@elitatwo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/elitatwo)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2018, 6:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/battleship-for-angel-active-ratting-need-advice-and-fits/105187/8 "2018-09-13T06:59:59Z")

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> [@Dread\_Saboteur](#):
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> [Nightmare, Nightmare]

He said angel cartel, so lasers will perform rather bad. I suggest a minmatar boat like the typhoon or tempest.  
I don’t know if the maelstrom is a good ratting boat or not but the former ships should do fine.  
Use nova missiles on the typhoon and the autocannon ammo that does explosive and kinetic damage on the tempest.

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**Author:** ![Pewkins](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pewkins/32/154421_2.png) [@Pewkins](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pewkins)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2018, 7:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/battleship-for-angel-active-ratting-need-advice-and-fits/105187/9 "2018-09-13T07:08:11Z")

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[View Guristas Null Low-SP Anom Ratting Machariel on Osmium](https://fits.federatis.fr/loadout/308)  
How about this? just change resists and ammo for Angels/

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**Author:** ![erg\_cz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/erg_cz/32/392645_2.png) [@erg\_cz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/erg_cz)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2018, 7:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/battleship-for-angel-active-ratting-need-advice-and-fits/105187/10 "2018-09-17T07:21:01Z")

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> [@elitatwo](#):
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> He said angel cartel, so lasers will perform rather bad.

While that is true, I believe nightmare theme came from thta post:

> [@Serhii\_Komendant](#):
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> How Nightmare and Vindicator rat in anoms nowadays with fits please?

not from OP.

And since the posted nightmare fit is a nightmare, I dare to suggest something, that tanks better, strike harder and cost about half:  
[Nightmare, PVE]

Damage Control II  
Heat Sink II  
Heat Sink II  
Tracking Enhancer II  
Heat Sink II  
Tracking Enhancer II

Domination Shield Boost Amplifier  
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II  
Gist X-Type 100MN Afterburner  
Large Micro Jump Drive  
Gist X-Type X-Large Shield Booster  
Dread Guristas EM Ward Field  
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 3200

Imperial Navy Large EMP Smartbomb  
Imperial Navy Large EMP Smartbomb  
Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L  
Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L  
Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L  
Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L

Large Energy Metastasis Adjuster I  
Large Energy Locus Coordinator II  
Large Energy Locus Coordinator I

Hobgoblin II x5  
Infiltrator II x5

It require to stay at keyboard (cap booster charges must be used when needed, not all the time) but is more effective, IMHO.

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**Author:** ![elitatwo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elitatwo/32/373473_2.png) [@elitatwo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/elitatwo)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2018, 9:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/battleship-for-angel-active-ratting-need-advice-and-fits/105187/11 "2018-09-17T09:11:25Z")

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> [@erg\_cz](#):
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> not from OP.

Ouuuh, nevermind then. I do love the Nightmare but I can’t fly the vindicator, so I take your word for it.

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**Post date:** [December 16, 2018, 9:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/battleship-for-angel-active-ratting-need-advice-and-fits/105187/12 "2018-12-16T09:11:31Z")

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