# Best DED Runs

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/best-ded-runs/367989>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [June 23, 2022, 10:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/best-ded-runs/367989 "2022-06-23T22:11:09Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2022, 12:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/best-ded-runs/367989/41 "2022-09-04T00:16:19Z")

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Okay but what do you spend the profits on that you acquire through mining (and assume through industry and trade)? Don’t you spend it on some skills or something? 😛 😉 ❄

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**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2022, 12:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/best-ded-runs/367989/42 "2022-09-04T00:20:38Z")

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But you were going way off topic here but I used to always give my isk away and now I had been saving my iskies.

> **I am a poor Miner**
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> ![poor-miner](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/9/b/7/9b7ee263f3cca6f9e0817e19ee1f6c179f61138f.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2022, 12:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/best-ded-runs/367989/43 "2022-09-04T00:23:35Z")

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Well maybe you could optimize your stuff to get a better profit ratio. Btw you mean you started the off-topic with your inquiry about the Gila. 😉 ❄

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**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2022, 12:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/best-ded-runs/367989/44 "2022-09-04T00:24:25Z")

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Yes my bad, let’s focus on DED runs, what system do we find them in please?

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**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2022, 12:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/best-ded-runs/367989/45 "2022-09-04T00:25:21Z")

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You can check the agency window (exploration section) for anomalies and cosmic signatures. The sigs can be DED sites and running the anomalies can produce escalations which are also DED sites.

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**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2022, 12:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/best-ded-runs/367989/46 "2022-09-04T00:46:11Z")

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DED 3 and 4 can be found anywhere in highsec or lowsec.

You can get DED 4 as an escalation from hideaway or refuge anomaly, which can be done in highsec too.

DED 5 can naturally spawn as signature only in low. But it can be gained as an escalation by completing den anomaly. And this escalation has a chance to be in highsec. Chance depends on region, but usually it is going to be low or null.

Can’t say much about DED6+ never done these as it requires t3c which I never trained into (t3c for safety reasons as it spawns in low/null only).

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**Author:** ![Jubayr\_Armstrong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jubayr_armstrong/32/415325_2.png) [@Jubayr\_Armstrong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jubayr_Armstrong)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2022, 12:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/best-ded-runs/367989/47 "2022-09-04T00:58:32Z")

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A DED 5/10 can occur in high-sec but very rarely. I have had that happen twice

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**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2022, 1:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/best-ded-runs/367989/49 "2022-09-04T01:27:16Z")

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This griefing thing, if this is a joke then haha but you know some things we should stop bring it up as the way I see it is that the community is losing a valuable capsuleer. There must be more too it as HatelesS used his Kaboom Cruiser fit and bumped an Orca so far off the belt but _now_ that vod had taken down.

Let’s just curb discussing about it and even coming from you Sir I think it calls for a Karren complaint on Vinnies next Stream. I now want to see you on the list for WHPD.

Inclosing wouldn’t it be great to see the release of the Astra Police Skin!

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**Author:** ![Small\_Kitty\_Paws](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/small_kitty_paws/32/267673_2.png) [@Small\_Kitty\_Paws](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Small_Kitty_Paws)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2022, 7:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/best-ded-runs/367989/50 "2022-09-04T07:14:28Z")

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> [@Vokan\_Narkar](#):
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> But it can be gained as an escalation by completing den anomaly. And this escalation has a chance to be in highsec. Chance depends on region, but usually it is going to be low or null.

In minmatar space (angels). Refuges and dens escalate to 5/10’s. Other factions is just dens.

Escalations can spawn up to 9 jumps form system you get it (ignoring any system security). It don’t depend on region. Technically it is. But you make it sound like specific faction have higher chance. While it’s only EVE map geographic. nothing more. You effectively can find systems where you have 100% chance for only highsec escalations

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**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2022, 7:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/best-ded-runs/367989/51 "2022-09-04T07:42:48Z")

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What this thread reveals most of all that there are a lot of prolific posters who know fck all about the game.

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**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2022, 8:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/best-ded-runs/367989/52 "2022-09-04T08:51:32Z")

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May I step up to the plate and could I take a swing at your fast ball? Or am I the one who is always being struck out.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2022, 8:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/best-ded-runs/367989/53 "2022-09-04T08:53:50Z")

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Wierd, I thought the Gila was supposed to use Geckos.

Was that ever a thing or is it just Rattlesnake Im thinking of?

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**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2022, 9:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/best-ded-runs/367989/54 "2022-09-04T09:02:12Z")

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‘Subverted’ JVN-UC49 is a medium drone version of the Gecko but where do we get them from?

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**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2022, 9:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/best-ded-runs/367989/55 "2022-09-04T09:27:33Z")

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Only playing [since 2017](https://evewho.com/character/2112255756) so not sure what was before but I never saw, read or heard about Gilas using geckos so I think it is safe to assume that yes you confuse it with the Rattle (or even Ishtar).

> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#):
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> where do we get them from?

Wasn’t it like a free gift in the form of BPCs during some event or such? At least that is what I seem to recall in the form of a faint memory.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2022, 9:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/best-ded-runs/367989/56 "2022-09-04T09:55:56Z")

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Fair dos. They work well in a Stratios too. Impress noobs by doing SoE in one.

> [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#):
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> Wasn’t it like a free gift in the form of BPCs during some event or such?

They have been at least once though the original bunch were gifts from the Yule Lads.

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**Author:** ![Kezrai\_Charzai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kezrai_charzai/32/394578_2.png) [@Kezrai\_Charzai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kezrai_Charzai)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2022, 10:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/best-ded-runs/367989/57 "2022-09-04T10:48:27Z")

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> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#):
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> Wierd, I thought the Gila was supposed to use Geckos.
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> Was that ever a thing or is it just Rattlesnake Im thinking of?

More commonly used on Rattles, Stratios, Ishtars, some others. Gila doesn’t have the bandwidth for one.

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**Author:** ![Shower\_Ben\_Dover](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shower_ben_dover/32/329433_2.png) [@Shower\_Ben\_Dover](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shower_Ben_Dover)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2022, 4:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/best-ded-runs/367989/58 "2022-09-04T16:55:16Z")

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> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#):
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> Wierd, I thought the Gila was supposed to use Geckos.
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> Was that ever a thing or is it just Rattlesnake Im thinking of

It was a thing a long time ago. I do not remember when they did change the Gila to it’s current form but I can state that I remember flying them with heavies and even sentries at some point.

Reference:

> **[EVE Search - Ishtar vs. Gila](https://eve-search.com/thread/1353433-0#6)**
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> The alternative guide to the EVE-Online forums. Mirrors and enables advanced search options to browse the EVE-Online forums.

> **[EVE Search - Gila vs Domi or..?](https://eve-search.com/thread/194409-1#5)**
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“I really like the Gila. Its more maneuverable, can fit 10 sentries, 5 heavies, and 5 lights, and I can mission in other places with no problem. I fit exp/therm ammo, as that hits most NPCs on their primary or secondary, and exp/therm drones (I keep some in the cargo bay in case I need to switch).”

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**Author:** ![Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anthony_fattony_amico/32/391106_2.png) [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anthony_FatTony_Amico)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2022, 5:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/best-ded-runs/367989/59 "2022-09-04T17:23:37Z")

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While I don’t go suspect to steal loot it has been really fun contesting the Union Day sites just like the Christmas event. My best steal was sadly only a Raven Jita 4-4 skin. **Literally caught the guy on the LAST TWO npcs!!** SWOOPED IN. Killed the commander and ran laughing at myself 😆 Like my god I felt so bad… EVE really brings out the worst in normally good people. I love it!

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**Author:** ![Jubayr\_Armstrong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jubayr_armstrong/32/415325_2.png) [@Jubayr\_Armstrong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jubayr_Armstrong)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2022, 1:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/best-ded-runs/367989/60 "2022-09-24T01:54:00Z")

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So close!

DED 3/10 Blood Raider Intelligence Collection Point  
Ship Used: Confessor Tactical Destroyer

 ![Screenshot 2022-09-23 214800](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/c/3/2/c32aa1f47d557a30275f0cf8bc01d87e4f2fac49.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2022, 4:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/best-ded-runs/367989/61 "2022-10-19T16:44:11Z")

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> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#):
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> I didnt really seem much difference in them from mission rooms, maybe as you say I was just rolling badly,

When I first started playing Eve I was doing missions for LP’s to get Faction gear. However that took a long time and if not careful, will mess up your Faction standings which caused me to create ‘The Plan’. Course that’s a topic for a different thread.

After that I got into doing Exploration and found it to be much faster and easier to get Faction loot, also it didn’t mess with the standings of the main Empire Factions. Over time I gained quite a hoard and set up business dealings with a Jita trader which in turn buffed my wallet.

Later after that association ended, I then stockpiled the loot and eventually started using it to bling out my ships. If I didn’t have a specific mod, I’d sell some of the extra loot and buy what I needed. All the while continuing to do exploration.

Most of the time I didn’t even have to sell any loot due to constantly collecting bounty on the rats. Over time my wallet continued to grow and I continued collecting Faction / Deadspace gear as well as blinging out my ships to where now, most of my ships are maxed blinged and to this day I still have ton’s of Faction / Deadspace loot sitting in station.

About 5 yrs ago I actually started doing Trade career more seriously and over time basically stopped doing exploration. I still have my notes with different exploration routes for the main 4 Factions which I still use when CCP hosts events.

So yeah, there is definitely a big difference between missioning and exploration…

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