# Best FPS rate? **URL:** \ **Category:** Mac OS\ **Created:** [December 31, 2019, 2:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/best-fps-rate/209202 "2019-12-31T02:15:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Hayduke\_Artrald](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hayduke_artrald/32/394244_2.png) [@Hayduke\_Artrald](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hayduke_Artrald)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2019, 2:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/best-fps-rate/209202/1 "2019-12-31T02:15:54Z")
I’m just curious what people are getting for FPS in the different graphical settings. One of the things I love about Eve is how beautiful it is, so I don’t run it in potato mode. With settings on “high” I’m sometimes getting an FPS around 9. My iMac is a few years old, but is the FPS rate still bad on a newer computer? ---
**Author:** ![Amarisen\_Gream](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/amarisen_gream/32/296747_2.png) [@Amarisen\_Gream](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Amarisen_Gream)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2019, 3:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/best-fps-rate/209202/2 "2019-12-31T03:29:29Z")
![Screen Shot 2019-12-30 at 9.24.28 PM](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/e/e/eef58ba8202a81828017ba8d883da904045af603.jpeg) It cost a little money to get to this point - but I bought the computer refurbed and everything else was on sale on amazon. So I’m running an | Model Name: | Mac mini | | --- | --- | | Model Identifier: | Macmini8,1 | | Processor Name: | 6-Core Intel Core i7 | | Processor Speed: | 3.2 GHz | | Number of Processors: | 1 | | Total Number of Cores: | 6 | | L2 Cache (per Core): | 256 KB | | L3 Cache: | 12 MB | | Hyper-Threading Technology: | Enabled | | Memory: | 32 GB | Radeon RX 580: Chipset Model: Radeon RX 580 Type: External GPU PCIe Lane Width: x4 VRAM (Total): 8 GB Vendor: AMD (0x1002) Device ID: 0x67df Revision ID: 0x00e7 Metal: Supported, feature set macOS GPUFamily2 v1 GPU is Removable: Yes Displays: Sceptre M25: Resolution: 1920 x 1080 (1080p FHD - Full High Definition) UI Looks like: 1920 x 1080 @ 165 Hz Framebuffer Depth: 30-Bit Color (ARGB2101010) Mirror: Off Online: Yes Rotation: Supported Automatically Adjust Brightness: No Connection Type: DisplayPort C27: Resolution: 1920 x 1080 (1080p FHD - Full High Definition) UI Looks like: 1920 x 1080 @ 144 Hz Framebuffer Depth: 30-Bit Color (ARGB2101010) Main Display: Yes Mirror: Off Online: Yes Rotation: Supported Automatically Adjust Brightness: No Connection Type: DisplayPort If I’m focused on the screen 100+ FPS. if I unfocus I drop to 60-90 FPS. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Frifri](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lord_frifri/32/292595_2.png) [@Lord\_Frifri](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lord_Frifri)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2019, 4:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/best-fps-rate/209202/3 "2019-12-31T04:33:25Z")
Regardless of what you spent … i7 + 32GB? I don’t think you’ll have issues with FPS even with a shitty GPU! I have i5 + 16GB + 1070 5 clients locked at 40FPS: 60C FPS Max settings 45C Mid/High 30C Potato ---
**Author:** ![Hayduke\_Artrald](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hayduke_artrald/32/394244_2.png) [@Hayduke\_Artrald](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hayduke_Artrald)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2019, 4:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/best-fps-rate/209202/4 "2019-12-31T04:36:13Z")
Hmm… That’s pretty awesome. What does it do when you go into something more graphically complex, such as abyssal space? I’ve noticed that when I loot a burning bioadaptive cache that’s when my frame-rate gets the lowest (around 9 FPS). By best in a simple environment is around 30 FPS. For reference, here’s my system info: | Model Name: | iMac | | --- | --- | | Model Identifier: | iMac16,2 | | Processor Name: | Quad-Core Intel Core i7 | | Processor Speed: | 3.3 GHz | | Number of Processors: | 1 | | Total Number of Cores: | 4 | | L2 Cache (per Core): | 256 KB | | L3 Cache: | 6 MB | | Hyper-Threading Technology: | Enabled | | Memory: | 16 GB | Chipset Model: Intel Iris Pro Graphics 6200 Type: GPU Bus: Built-In VRAM (Dynamic, Max): 1536 MB Vendor: Intel Device ID: 0x1622 Revision ID: 0x000a Metal: Supported, feature set macOS GPUFamily1 v4 Displays: iMac: Display Type: Built-In Retina LCD Resolution: 4096 x 2304 Retina Framebuffer Depth: 30-Bit Color (ARGB2101010) ---
**Author:** ![Amarisen\_Gream](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/amarisen_gream/32/296747_2.png) [@Amarisen\_Gream](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Amarisen_Gream)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2019, 6:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/best-fps-rate/209202/5 "2019-12-31T06:15:21Z")
Sadly, the only testing I can really do is logging on and jump in a shuttle and jumping systems as I am only Alpha on TQ. I will attempt to do some stuff on SISI and get better data. I was mostly just curious on what I could do when I saw your question, as for months EVE would cripple my machine - massive fan spikes, graphic errors etc. ---
**Author:** ![elitatwo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elitatwo/32/373473_2.png) [@elitatwo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/elitatwo)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2019, 7:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/best-fps-rate/209202/6 "2019-12-31T07:20:11Z")
> [@Hayduke\_Artrald](#): > > Chipset Model: Intel Iris Pro Graphics 6200 Here is a hint, this is the graphics part of the CPU. This one needs Vulkan™ to show around 20-30 frames per second and you can only dedicate 1536MB for video memory. > [@Amarisen\_Gream](#): > > Radeon RX 580: This is a proper GPU from AMD™ for video games. And this is EVE Online with Vulkan™ on a RX 480 with 8GB on Linut Mint 19.3: ![EVE - elitatwo_736](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/e/a/ea2ad738208f2889482637dab77e40e80fbdccc9.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Hayduke\_Artrald](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hayduke_artrald/32/394244_2.png) [@Hayduke\_Artrald](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hayduke_Artrald)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2019, 11:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/best-fps-rate/209202/7 "2019-12-31T11:02:54Z")
So, what you’re saying is that my iMac’s hardware is not sufficient to get the frame rate above 30. At the risk of opening a can of worms, within the iMac family, which model would meet spec for this game for the foreseeable future? ---
**Author:** ![Do\_Little](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/do_little/32/411571_2.png) [@Do\_Little](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Do_Little)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2019, 2:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/best-fps-rate/209202/8 "2019-12-31T14:09:09Z")
Bear in mind that Eve has a 1 second server tick so nothing happens faster than that - you need enough FPS to give smooth animation and that will be subjective. A discrete GPU will always perform better than an integrated GPU of the same generation. You definitely should get a discrete GPU if you intend to run multiple monitors or if you intend to use resolutions higher than 2K (1920x1080) ---
**Author:** ![CowRocket\_Void](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cowrocket_void/32/189525_2.png) [@CowRocket\_Void](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CowRocket_Void)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2019, 3:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/best-fps-rate/209202/9 "2019-12-31T15:54:23Z")
Almost anything that’s not a Mac and newish. ---
**Author:** ![Hayduke\_Artrald](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hayduke_artrald/32/394244_2.png) [@Hayduke\_Artrald](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hayduke_Artrald)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2020, 1:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/best-fps-rate/209202/10 "2020-01-01T01:02:12Z")
Touché. ---
**Author:** ![elitatwo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elitatwo/32/373473_2.png) [@elitatwo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/elitatwo)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2020, 8:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/best-fps-rate/209202/11 "2020-01-01T20:18:36Z")
> [@Hayduke\_Artrald](#): > > iMac’s hardware It’s not actually the old power pro CPU in a mac anymore, it’s basically just a pc with Intel™ hardware inside and your mac os running it. ---
**Author:** ![Amarisen\_Gream](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/amarisen_gream/32/296747_2.png) [@Amarisen\_Gream](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Amarisen_Gream)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2020, 8:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/best-fps-rate/209202/12 "2020-01-01T20:35:11Z")
@elitatwo From the look of things, Vulkan is way to go. At least there is MoltenVK for the Mac side. Someone I thought was looking at helping others on Mac to get the Vulcan version working with moltenvk and wine. Guess nothing came of it. ---
**Author:** ![elitatwo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elitatwo/32/373473_2.png) [@elitatwo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/elitatwo)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2020, 2:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/best-fps-rate/209202/13 "2020-01-02T02:40:15Z")
> [@Amarisen\_Gream](#): > > moltenvk and wine So now I am at a loss, since I honestly don’t know but if mac os has support for Stream, then you are good to go. Steam uses moltenvk with wine with the Steam client, they just call it Proton. If you can run Steam, you can run EVE Online with moltenvk, aka Proton, aka Vulkan™. ---
**Author:** ![Attila\_Kormondi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/attila_kormondi/32/347950_2.png) [@Attila\_Kormondi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Attila_Kormondi)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2020, 8:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/best-fps-rate/209202/14 "2020-01-05T08:48:20Z")
I have 2011 Mac Mini. I know it is old but i always have 25-50 Fps with low graf settings. Until the lastest patch in the station i have 30-50 fps. But when i undock my fps is going down 1 fps. Any idea? Thank You. ---
**Author:** ![Amarisen\_Gream](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/amarisen_gream/32/296747_2.png) [@Amarisen\_Gream](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Amarisen_Gream)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2020, 2:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/best-fps-rate/209202/15 "2020-01-09T14:49:48Z")
That’s cool. I have Steam, but I don’t play eve on Steam. If/when I get back into EVE, I am going to look at MoltenVK and on how to get it working. ---
**Author:** ![Amarisen\_Gream](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/amarisen_gream/32/296747_2.png) [@Amarisen\_Gream](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Amarisen_Gream)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2020, 6:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/best-fps-rate/209202/16 "2020-01-10T18:17:23Z")
@elitatwo Looking at things: Steam Proton only works for Linux. We’ll just have to hope someone smarter can figure it all out and get it to work. ---
**Author:** ![elitatwo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elitatwo/32/373473_2.png) [@elitatwo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/elitatwo)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2020, 8:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/best-fps-rate/209202/17 "2020-01-10T20:18:48Z")
Well Proton uses changed wine libs for Proton. There are 4 files that need to be changed and be activated by the winecfg manager. It should work the same on mac os, since mac os uses the wine wrapper also but I cannot confirm that. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2020, 8:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/best-fps-rate/209202/18 "2020-04-09T20:27:19Z")
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