# Best Newb Careers?

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/best-newb-careers/164525>\
**Category:** New Citizens Q&A\
**Created:** [June 5, 2019, 4:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/best-newb-careers/164525 "2019-06-05T16:05:18Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 12\
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**Author:** ![Alistair\_Atreides](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alistair_atreides/32/267403_2.png) [@Alistair\_Atreides](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alistair_Atreides)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2019, 9:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/best-newb-careers/164525/21 "2019-06-06T09:33:59Z")

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> [@Wyk\_Bathana](#):
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> as several people said to you in this thread: focusing on isk/h ratio is not a good thing. Focus on fun/h  
> eve is not a job

Don’t overly worry about it. The reason I want a higher isk/hr ratio first, is because I know I can play more later if I get these techniques down now.

And sure enough it’s paying off. My first day back after my 10 year break, I made only 3million isk the entire game play.

Now I am close to making that on the trading cycles alone…and as mentioned am getting close to the ~20mil/hr ratio now on revenue doing what I like to do, scans.

This all leads to preparing me to go off the deep end back into lone-wandering Null and W-space.

And now that those techniques are mastered, it’s pretty easy to do the revenues, and the skill with it keeps the risk low and cost down. I consider my 3mil Imicus for revenue to be a high cost…I should be doing it in a half-a-mil boat 🙂

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**Author:** ![Retribution\_atSubZero](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/retribution_atsubzero/32/139672_2.png) [@Retribution\_atSubZero](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Retribution_atSubZero)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2019, 11:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/best-newb-careers/164525/22 "2019-06-06T11:49:29Z")

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Definately cl1-3 wh NPC pirate relics. Intact salvage can net tons and has no volume. I fly around for hrs in an astero/helios and make tons.

Data sites I’ll do but they’re not as good unless you want to save on invention I believe.

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**Author:** ![Alistair\_Atreides](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alistair_atreides/32/267403_2.png) [@Alistair\_Atreides](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alistair_Atreides)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2019, 5:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/best-newb-careers/164525/23 "2019-06-06T17:36:38Z")

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> **Obligatory Note** - technique refers to your personal ability to do something, juxtapose your skill levels which makes it easier to have no technique, like an Omega.

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> [@Retribution\_atSubZero](#):
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> Definately cl1-3 wh NPC pirate relics. Intact salvage can net tons and has no volume. I fly around for hrs in an astero/helios and make tons.

You stick to the non-hostile sites? Want a discussion bout sig-tanking hostile sites? I want to examine (then experiment) with the practicals of sig-tanking while hacking hostile data/relics. I’ve heard it possible for gas mining, so should be same for the hostile waves unless their ships are too small?

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> Be Alpha

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**Author:** ![Retribution\_atSubZero](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/retribution_atsubzero/32/139672_2.png) [@Retribution\_atSubZero](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Retribution_atSubZero)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2019, 9:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/best-newb-careers/164525/24 "2019-06-06T21:39:16Z")

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This toon’s forum signature speaks of his relevance highly. I’m trying to be polite.

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**Author:** ![Nora\_Maldoran](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nora_maldoran/32/399985_2.png) [@Nora\_Maldoran](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nora_Maldoran)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2019, 9:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/best-newb-careers/164525/25 "2019-06-06T21:57:13Z")

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> [@Alistair\_Atreides](#):
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> I want to examine (then experiment) with the practicals of sig-tanking while hacking hostile data/relics. I’ve heard it possible for gas mining, so should be same for the hostile waves unless their ships are too small?

That’s an interesting idea.  
And it might work in a C1 site named [Forgotten Perimeter Power Array](https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Forgotten_Perimeter_Power_Array) as that is one of very few sleeper relic sites in worlmhole space that has no E-War in it’s initial spawn.  
If you want to signature tank in this situation, an afterburner should be mandatory and maybe an active armor tank, since you will need the mid slots for hacking module and probmodule already.

Here is a list with all wormhole sites and what NPCs they will spawn:  
[https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Wormhole\_C1\_Sites](https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Wormhole_C1_Sites)

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**Author:** ![Alistair\_Atreides](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alistair_atreides/32/267403_2.png) [@Alistair\_Atreides](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alistair_Atreides)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2019, 10:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/best-newb-careers/164525/26 "2019-06-06T22:10:04Z")

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> **Obligatory Note** - technique refers to your personal ability to do something, juxtapose your skill levels which makes it easier to have no technique, like an Omega.

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> [@Retribution\_atSubZero](#):
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> This toon’s forum signature speaks of his relevance highly. I’m trying to be polite.

I’ll be sure to be polite when alpha goonswarms take all your best sites lol.

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> Be Alpha

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**Author:** ![Alistair\_Atreides](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alistair_atreides/32/267403_2.png) [@Alistair\_Atreides](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alistair_Atreides)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2019, 10:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/best-newb-careers/164525/27 "2019-06-06T22:42:03Z")

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> **Obligatory Note** - technique refers to your personal ability to do something, juxtapose your skill levels which makes it easier to have no technique, like an Omega.

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> [@Nora\_Maldoran](#):
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> That’s an interesting idea.

I’ll have to go through the sites list then I guess and see what size weapons they have? If they are always BS then this is likely viable? If they have frigates then this will likely never work?

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> Be Alpha

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**Author:** ![Wyk\_Bathana](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wyk_bathana/32/374287_2.png) [@Wyk\_Bathana](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wyk_Bathana)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2019, 6:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/best-newb-careers/164525/28 "2019-06-07T06:33:15Z")

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i think that, once again, you should read and discuss before  
because

1. relic/data sites with sleepers are mainly combat sites  
what you need is this spreadsheet [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17cNu8hxqJKqkkPnhDlIuJY-IT6ps7kTNCd3BEz0Bvqs/pubhtml#](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17cNu8hxqJKqkkPnhDlIuJY-IT6ps7kTNCd3BEz0Bvqs/pubhtml#)  
you will see all npcs types for each site  
and as you can see there are frigs, many frigs. And there are webs, many webs.  
so no, you cannot  
actually it is not designed to be sig tanked by an explo while you are hacking, you see?  
it is designed to see players kill npcs then hack…
2. the loot in the cans is not the same as normal explo loot. If i remember correctly, the volume of the looted items is much larger. You won’t be able to haul it  
so focus on pirate sites

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**Author:** ![Nora\_Maldoran](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nora_maldoran/32/399985_2.png) [@Nora\_Maldoran](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nora_Maldoran)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2019, 9:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/best-newb-careers/164525/29 "2019-06-07T09:05:56Z")

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> [@Wyk\_Bathana](#):
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> And there are webs, many webs.  
> so no, you cannot

Have a look at the C1 Relic Site “Forgotten Perimeter Power Array”. The initial spawn are 2 cruiser sized sleepers. No E-War at all. The cruisers are the trigger for the next spawn. Don’t kill them, and you will have no E-War to deal with.  
I believe with a correctly fitted frigate it can be possible to hack these cans while tanking their dps. But it may require omega-skill levels to actually do it.

> **Magnate Fit**
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> [Magnate, C1: Forgotten Perimeter Power Array]  
> 200mm Rolled Tungsten Compact Plates  
> Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II  
> Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II  
> Small Armor Repairer II
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> 1MN Monopropellant Enduring Afterburner  
> Small Compact Pb-Acid Cap Battery  
> Relic Analyzer II
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> Core Probe Launcher II  
> Salvager II  
> Prototype Cloaking Device I
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> Small Ancillary Current Router II  
> Small Capacitor Control Circuit I  
> Small Auxiliary Nano Pump II
> 
> Salvage Drone I x2  
> Hornet EC-300 x3  
> Acolyte II x3
> 
> Sisters Core Scanner Probe x8

I’m not saying it’s a good idea, I’m neither saying it’s worth the time. But I would not say it’s impossible.

In every other site where E-War or frigates are a thing I agree, The chance to successfully sig-tank there are close to zero.

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**Author:** ![Wyk\_Bathana](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wyk_bathana/32/374287_2.png) [@Wyk\_Bathana](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wyk_Bathana)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2019, 9:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/best-newb-careers/164525/30 "2019-06-07T09:26:17Z")

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yes i was talking in general for most sites. For the site type you quote, you are right, it might be possible, but i am not sure he could tank them in an imicus with alpha restrictons while hacking…

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**Author:** ![Retribution\_atSubZero](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/retribution_atsubzero/32/139672_2.png) [@Retribution\_atSubZero](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Retribution_atSubZero)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2019, 10:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/best-newb-careers/164525/31 "2019-06-07T10:31:18Z")

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Smoking bongs and training, and playing other games?

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**Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 10:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/best-newb-careers/164525/32 "2019-09-05T10:31:23Z")

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