# Best ships per category (newbie Qs) **URL:** \ **Category:** PvP Ships & Modules\ **Created:** [February 3, 2018, 7:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/best-ships-per-category-newbie-qs/55208 "2018-02-03T19:50:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Pixelst0rm](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pixelst0rm/32/52828_2.png) [@Pixelst0rm](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pixelst0rm)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2018, 7:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/best-ships-per-category-newbie-qs/55208/1 "2018-02-03T19:50:07Z")
Hello guys, I didn’t play the game for like 5 years and was wondering whats up. I do realise that there is no “best” ship, still there is usually a meta and something seem to work better than other stuff so here we go. 1. Most popular small gang ships 2. Most popular solo roam ships - combat complex runners 3. Most popular solo roam ships - hacking / scanning 4. Most popular solo roam ships - pure pvp 5. Most popular t3 ships 6. Most popular sub cap fleet ships 7. Most popular sub cap drone boats 8. Most popular mission runners I am looking to figure out the direction for my training and looking to check initial assumptions. So far i am leaning towards Drones / Projectile turrets. Minmatar / Gallente ships. Both armour and shield tank. ---
**Author:** ![Quelza](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quelza/32/36089_2.png) [@Quelza](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Quelza)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2018, 7:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/best-ships-per-category-newbie-qs/55208/2 "2018-02-03T19:54:09Z")
Loki and Gila For fleet stuff, maybe take a look at the zkill page for whatever area/corp/alliance you wanna fly in/with. ---
**Author:** ![Makshima\_Shogo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makshima_shogo/32/247769_2.png) [@Makshima\_Shogo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makshima_Shogo)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2018, 8:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/best-ships-per-category-newbie-qs/55208/3 "2018-02-03T20:16:57Z")
1: Cynabel, Saber, Orthrus, Garmur, Daredevil, omen navy. 2: Astero, Stratios, T3 Cruiser 3: Astero, Stratios, T3 Cruiser 4: T1 Cruser, T1 Bc, Assualt Frig, Pirate frig, Stealth Bomber, Pirate Cruiser, Navy Cruiser 5: Hecate, Svipel, Tengu, Protues, Loki, legion not as much as the rest. 6: Macherial, Gila, Navy Vexor, Ishtar, Cerberus, Harpy, Confessor, Alog’s, Thrasher, Apoc Navy, Domi, Man so many more. 7: Navy Vexor hands down, Gila, Ishtar, Worm, Rattler, Domi. 8: Navy Vexor Hands down, Gila, Ishtar, Rattler, Domi. Honorable mention: Curse, one of the strongest ships in game. Dishonorable mention: Falcon, one of the strongest force multipliers. Also: > **[Sabre | Ship](https://zkillboard.com/ship/22456/ranks/)** > > Sabre: 3,792,154 ships destroyed and 340,194 ships lost. ---
**Author:** ![Pixelst0rm](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pixelst0rm/32/52828_2.png) [@Pixelst0rm](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pixelst0rm)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2018, 9:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/best-ships-per-category-newbie-qs/55208/4 "2018-02-03T21:36:44Z")
That’s very informative and pretty much along the lines of what i expected to see. Thank you! Is Vexor Navy better than Ishtar or Gila these days? ---
**Author:** ![Makshima\_Shogo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makshima_shogo/32/247769_2.png) [@Makshima\_Shogo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makshima_Shogo)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2018, 9:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/best-ships-per-category-newbie-qs/55208/5 "2018-02-03T21:46:54Z")
TBH I have no idea, Don’t fly drone ships personally. ---
**Author:** ![Fluffy\_Moe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fluffy_moe/32/11132_2.png) [@Fluffy\_Moe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fluffy_Moe)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2018, 11:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/best-ships-per-category-newbie-qs/55208/6 "2018-02-03T23:31:44Z")
> [@Quelza](#): > > Loki and Gila > > For fleet stuff, maybe take a look at the zkill page for whatever area/corp/alliance you wanna fly in/with. I double Loki and Gila. Both are just awesome for ceirtain situations. Loki IMHO is now the best T3C, its most flexible. The other ones do better at ceirtain situations, but Loki does well at everything. ---
**Author:** ![Fluffy\_Moe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fluffy_moe/32/11132_2.png) [@Fluffy\_Moe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fluffy_Moe)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2018, 11:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/best-ships-per-category-newbie-qs/55208/7 "2018-02-03T23:35:33Z")
> [@Pixelst0rm](#): > > That’s very informative and pretty much along the lines of what i expected to see. Thank you! > > Is Vexor Navy better than Ishtar or Gila these days? For cheap all around basic stuff the Vexor Navy is better because its a smaller loss when you lose one. Gila is more effective though. There is a lot of the harder content you can do in a Gila that you either can’t complete at all in a VNI or it will take you a lot longer or be greatly more difficult. ---
**Author:** ![Makshima\_Shogo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makshima_shogo/32/247769_2.png) [@Makshima\_Shogo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makshima_Shogo)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2018, 7:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/best-ships-per-category-newbie-qs/55208/8 "2018-02-04T07:10:28Z")
> [@Fluffy\_Moe](#): > > but Loki does well at everything. Interesting, I have not tried the loki yet, Iv always thought that the tengu was king of DED’s. Being able to do every one in the game solo, how does the loki fair in this regard? ---
**Author:** ![elitatwo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elitatwo/32/373473_2.png) [@elitatwo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/elitatwo)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2018, 9:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/best-ships-per-category-newbie-qs/55208/9 "2018-02-04T09:05:07Z")
In the case loki and the other t3 sleeper cruisers it goes like this: loki \>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\> tengu \>\>\> proteus \>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\>\> legion ---
**Author:** ![Doctor\_Siwalin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/doctor_siwalin/32/52142_2.png) [@Doctor\_Siwalin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Doctor_Siwalin)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2018, 9:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/best-ships-per-category-newbie-qs/55208/10 "2018-02-04T09:41:53Z")
It depends on what are you going to do with t3c. Because nowadays legion is way more better than proteus and even tengu. I flew all t3c exept loki and in solo pvp legion is best one imo. Also for PvE legion is now popular as well (but rattle still more popular in some regions heh) ---
**Author:** ![elitatwo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elitatwo/32/373473_2.png) [@elitatwo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/elitatwo)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2018, 9:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/best-ships-per-category-newbie-qs/55208/11 "2018-02-04T09:43:40Z")
But you can fit 15000 km artilleries and the 50 AU web range sub. ---
**Author:** ![Doctor\_Siwalin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/doctor_siwalin/32/52142_2.png) [@Doctor\_Siwalin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Doctor_Siwalin)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2018, 9:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/best-ships-per-category-newbie-qs/55208/12 "2018-02-04T09:46:44Z")
Can you share pls fit? Cause i saw only artillery tengus, they are pretty cool in _some situations_ but have no tank at all 😕 ---
**Author:** ![elitatwo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elitatwo/32/373473_2.png) [@elitatwo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/elitatwo)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2018, 6:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/best-ships-per-category-newbie-qs/55208/13 "2018-02-04T18:37:13Z")
I don’t have any minmatar boat fits, except for the broadsword, scythe, scimitar and scalpel. ---
**Author:** ![Ryder\_ook](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ryder_ook/32/134079_2.png) [@Ryder\_ook](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ryder_ook)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2018, 9:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/best-ships-per-category-newbie-qs/55208/14 "2018-02-06T09:32:01Z")
No artillery fit but utilizing the long web for heavy tackle. 54k EHP, 451 dps, cap life 3 min without smartbomb and neut. And you have full range control. It’s not a solo boat but a really good heavy tackle for small gang work. [Loki, Heavy Tackle] Power Diagnostic System II Tracking Enhancer II Gyrostabilizer II 50MN Microwarpdrive II Caldari Navy Warp Disruptor Caldari Navy Stasis Webifier Caldari Navy Stasis Webifier Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Caldari Navy Large Shield Extender Caldari Navy Large Shield Extender 425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M 425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M 425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M 425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M 425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M Medium Energy Neutralizer II Small Plasma Smartbomb II Medium Projectile Ambit Extension II Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II Medium Core Defense Field Extender II Loki Core - Immobility Drivers Loki Defensive - Augmented Durability Loki Offensive - Projectile Scoping Array Loki Propulsion - Wake Limiter Hobgoblin II x5 ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2018, 9:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/best-ships-per-category-newbie-qs/55208/15 "2018-05-07T09:32:05Z")
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