# Best Way to get serious about production and playing the market

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**Created:** [November 20, 2021, 10:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/best-way-to-get-serious-about-production-and-playing-the-market/338075 "2021-11-20T22:23:38Z")\
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**Post date:** [November 20, 2021, 10:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/best-way-to-get-serious-about-production-and-playing-the-market/338075/2 "2021-11-20T22:43:37Z")

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Bit of a huge topic but here’s something to get you started:

> [@\[WIP\] The Industrialists Guide to the Universe](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/wip-the-industrialists-guide-to-the-universe/4943/8):
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> Usefull websites and tools: Manufacturing Calculators: EVE Isk per Hour: [https://eveiph.github.io/](https://eveiph.github.io/) Not completely up to date on mechanics (lacks support for Citadels), but reasonably close in most cases. Allows rather complex calculations for lots of items at the same time. Also comes with a simple Blueprint Manager. Steve Ronukens Toolbox: [https://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/](https://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/) Offers various tools usefull for an industrialist. Very good for quickly looking up things, but lacks the ability to manage …

Basically, google “EVE market trading” and “EVE industry manufacturing” and see what turns up.

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