# Big Ships are not allowed in high sec ... just let us not tell this to anyone **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [November 27, 2021, 8:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/big-ships-are-not-allowed-in-high-sec-just-let-us-not-tell-this-to-anyone/339141 "2021-11-27T20:02:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2021, 2:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/big-ships-are-not-allowed-in-high-sec-just-let-us-not-tell-this-to-anyone/339141/65 "2021-11-28T02:09:53Z")
he’s tried to sell his char several times, but i have an inkling that if he does, he’d prob let ccp know so whoever take over couldn’t use the cap in hisec… then only the space pope would be the last one with a cap in hisec. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2021, 10:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/big-ships-are-not-allowed-in-high-sec-just-let-us-not-tell-this-to-anyone/339141/66 "2021-11-28T10:34:50Z")
> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > quafe’s sake > **Or for the Amarrian...** > > …exotic dancer’s sake. 😇 ---
**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2021, 12:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/big-ships-are-not-allowed-in-high-sec-just-let-us-not-tell-this-to-anyone/339141/67 "2021-11-28T12:10:04Z")
If OP would have put in 10% of effort he put into this thread into reading a wiki or asking a simple question in the help channel, before (or during) he embarked on this long training and Plex infused journey, this wouldn’t have happened. This whole thread is simply “I was lazy, I didn’t think and I didn’t ask so I exploded. I blame everyone but myself”. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2021, 12:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/big-ships-are-not-allowed-in-high-sec-just-let-us-not-tell-this-to-anyone/339141/68 "2021-11-28T12:13:47Z")
Nothing of value was lost ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2021, 12:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/big-ships-are-not-allowed-in-high-sec-just-let-us-not-tell-this-to-anyone/339141/69 "2021-11-28T12:26:40Z")
> [@Aisha\_Katalen](#): > > If OP would have put in 10% of effort he put into this thread into reading a wiki or asking a simple question in the help channel, before (or during) he embarked on this long training and Plex infused journey, this wouldn’t have happened. > > This whole thread is simply “I was lazy, I didn’t think and I didn’t ask so I exploded. I blame everyone but myself”. I’m pretty sure that this is now beyond the scope of the average contemporary gamer, considering the overall difficulty and lack of understanding they have with regard to fairly simple gaming mechanics found in today’s games. As you can see from this tidbit from another thread, for example, wherein a player argues against PvP with this sort of justification: > It took me years to work out how to get someone to transport my stuff, let alone hire merks without getting scammed It’s also evident in other games in which multi-button skill rotations have been replaced with one-button combo chains (among other examples). Some games pretty much play themselves for you, actually, and players _still_ complain about difficulty on the forums. Go check out some New World discussions… ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2021, 3:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/big-ships-are-not-allowed-in-high-sec-just-let-us-not-tell-this-to-anyone/339141/71 "2021-11-28T15:24:27Z")
But, that doesn’t explain anything. After all, pods are allowed in highsec. ---
**Author:** ![Gandalf\_Greyer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gandalf_greyer/32/298490_2.png) [@Gandalf\_Greyer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gandalf_Greyer)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2021, 10:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/big-ships-are-not-allowed-in-high-sec-just-let-us-not-tell-this-to-anyone/339141/72 "2021-11-28T22:02:06Z")
Yes, this is the link that I missed. Thanks. EVE support at 2nd attempt pointed to this link to me too. So, they did place the warning. Perhaps ones attached to capital ships descriptions could be useful, but it is a subtle matter. ---
**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2021, 12:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/big-ships-are-not-allowed-in-high-sec-just-let-us-not-tell-this-to-anyone/339141/73 "2021-11-29T00:26:10Z")
> [@Gandalf\_Greyer](#): > > Yes, this is the link that I missed. Had you at any point of your training gone into the help or rookie channel and asked “heya, I’m using a CNR for missions or similar but looking to upgrade, is a Phoenix a good idea?” then you’d have gotten an avalanche of “no dude, they can’t enter high sec and they suck for that sort of stuff”. Or perhaps create a thread on the PVE forums, you seem to be active on the forums now, could have done that before all this. That takes like 30 seconds. 30 seconds of using 5 brain cells and asking a question, or reading a wiki, or just _in any capacity_ thinking before you’re doing. It’s not CCP’s fault, it’s not the game’s fault. It’s your own lack of basic effort that’s at fault. ---
**Author:** ![Gandalf\_Greyer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gandalf_greyer/32/298490_2.png) [@Gandalf\_Greyer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gandalf_Greyer)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2021, 1:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/big-ships-are-not-allowed-in-high-sec-just-let-us-not-tell-this-to-anyone/339141/74 "2021-11-29T01:02:55Z")
Yes and no. Yes, I made a mistake and paid some money for it. Not small, but still something I can afford to lose. After initial a couple or so of months I didn’t pay attention to this game for a long time and than last month decided to spend some time and money on it. You are correct in saying that spending a bit more of time could save some money. Also yes, it is not an ill intent of CPP as I thought. No … I think game help system, particularly ship descriptions should warn about this. It appears to be not as obvious as you think. It took 2nd iteration with EVE support to get the reference posted above. You likely don’t agree with the “No” part , but it is matter of personal view on how much efforts the entertainment should take. For me right now it is something I do when I am too tired to do other things. Don’t be offended, it is not about disrespect to game or to players. Just a personal choice … for now at least. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2021, 1:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/big-ships-are-not-allowed-in-high-sec-just-let-us-not-tell-this-to-anyone/339141/75 "2021-11-29T01:32:23Z")
> [@Gandalf\_Greyer](#): > > something I can afford to lose Want to be my sugar daddy? A slot opened up after Epeen missed his last payment. Next time you want to do anything that entails an action concerning any decent amount of money, just send me 100M along with a mail asking if it’s a good idea, and I’ll give you a detailed cause/effect breakdown for it. ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2021, 1:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/big-ships-are-not-allowed-in-high-sec-just-let-us-not-tell-this-to-anyone/339141/76 "2021-11-29T01:43:44Z")
If I remember my lore correctly, Gandalf wasn’t interested in girls. ---
**Author:** ![Gandalf\_Greyer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gandalf_greyer/32/298490_2.png) [@Gandalf\_Greyer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gandalf_Greyer)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2021, 2:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/big-ships-are-not-allowed-in-high-sec-just-let-us-not-tell-this-to-anyone/339141/78 "2021-11-29T02:36:40Z")
It looks more like an offering to be a trusted vizier 😄 Thank, will see if I need to use your wisdom in the future. EVE Support believes they can answer some questions too. Right now I likely have to pause the real spending of both money and my time in the game. ---
**Author:** ![Michelle\_Vega](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/michelle_vega/32/387037_2.png) [@Michelle\_Vega](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Michelle_Vega)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2021, 8:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/big-ships-are-not-allowed-in-high-sec-just-let-us-not-tell-this-to-anyone/339141/79 "2021-11-30T20:27:38Z")
you can have any ships in high sec if you can build it there. but you cant build it in an NPC station. ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2021, 8:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/big-ships-are-not-allowed-in-high-sec-just-let-us-not-tell-this-to-anyone/339141/80 "2021-11-30T20:40:17Z")
can’t undock a ship bigger than a battleship in hisec ---
**Author:** ![Arcturen\_Sanguis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arcturen_sanguis/32/261712_2.png) [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arcturen_Sanguis)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2021, 9:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/big-ships-are-not-allowed-in-high-sec-just-let-us-not-tell-this-to-anyone/339141/82 "2021-11-30T21:04:46Z")
Freighters are much bigger! ---
**Author:** ![Arcturen\_Sanguis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arcturen_sanguis/32/261712_2.png) [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arcturen_Sanguis)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2021, 9:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/big-ships-are-not-allowed-in-high-sec-just-let-us-not-tell-this-to-anyone/339141/83 "2021-11-30T21:05:45Z")
Do not spend real money on this game, it is a major major mistake. I’ve been playing 14 years and the game has never been in a worse state than it is in now ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2021, 9:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/big-ships-are-not-allowed-in-high-sec-just-let-us-not-tell-this-to-anyone/339141/85 "2021-11-30T21:08:54Z")
> [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](#): > > Freighters are much bigger! Huh. Its almost like you don’t understand ships roles or why they made the change. I guess after so much time solo controlling your hole it takes a toll huh? > [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](#): > > Do not spend real money on this game, it is a major major mistake. I’ve been playing 14 years and the game has never been in a worse state than it is in now Just quit then bro. I’m sure someone will come along to claim your hole once you’re gone 😃 Your hole won’t be lonely for long. ---
**Author:** ![Kaivarian\_Coste](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kaivarian_coste/32/413759_2.png) [@Kaivarian\_Coste](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kaivarian_Coste)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 5:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/big-ships-are-not-allowed-in-high-sec-just-let-us-not-tell-this-to-anyone/339141/87 "2021-12-02T05:45:38Z")
Hey OP. If you insist on continuing playing this game, obey these two rules: 1. Don’t trust CCP 2. Fear updates ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 6:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/big-ships-are-not-allowed-in-high-sec-just-let-us-not-tell-this-to-anyone/339141/88 "2021-12-02T06:08:50Z")
1. Don’t come to the forums looking for sympathy. There is none here. ---
**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 8:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/big-ships-are-not-allowed-in-high-sec-just-let-us-not-tell-this-to-anyone/339141/91 "2021-12-02T08:40:48Z")
> [@Kaivarian\_Coste](#): > > obey these two rules: - Don’t fly what you aren’t willing to lose - learn and think before doing [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/big-ships-are-not-allowed-in-high-sec-just-let-us-not-tell-this-to-anyone/339141.md?page=3) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/big-ships-are-not-allowed-in-high-sec-just-let-us-not-tell-this-to-anyone/339141.md?page=5)