# Bittervets vs carebears: Wardec rebalance edition **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [November 5, 2018, 8:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/bittervets-vs-carebears-wardec-rebalance-edition/118363 "2018-11-05T08:47:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Predvodnica\_LSG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/predvodnica_lsg/32/63657_2.png) [@Predvodnica\_LSG](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Predvodnica_LSG)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 5:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/bittervets-vs-carebears-wardec-rebalance-edition/118363/41 "2018-11-05T17:32:21Z")
> [@Whitehound](#): > > Your problem is then that … Nope you have problem! Hint: no one anymore need your “smart words” because bubble is bursting and party is over. ---
**Author:** ![techzer0](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/techzer0/32/101314_2.png) [@techzer0](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/techzer0)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 5:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/bittervets-vs-carebears-wardec-rebalance-edition/118363/42 "2018-11-05T17:43:55Z")
> [@Tater-nuts](#): > > All they have to do is sit in the pipes, figure out which characters have structures and war dec them. Good point. Limit pvp to the system that has the structure. Problem solved. ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 5:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/bittervets-vs-carebears-wardec-rebalance-edition/118363/43 "2018-11-05T17:49:11Z")
> [@Maekchu](#): > > resulting in the carebears returning to the forums with their cries on how it is so hard for the “little guy” and how the wardec mechanic should be further nerfed? That isn’t really a clever prophecy, that is a given. ---
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 6:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/bittervets-vs-carebears-wardec-rebalance-edition/118363/44 "2018-11-05T18:18:12Z")
> [@Predvodnica\_LSG](#): > > Nope you have problem! No, I don’t. I’m playing the game as we speak. And nothing of what you write here is going to change it. Nobody will come and pick you up and show you the ropes. You’ve passed out on this chance and everyone is moving on. ---
**Author:** ![Predvodnica\_LSG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/predvodnica_lsg/32/63657_2.png) [@Predvodnica\_LSG](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Predvodnica_LSG)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 6:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/bittervets-vs-carebears-wardec-rebalance-edition/118363/45 "2018-11-05T18:20:06Z")
Do not worry about me, worry about yourself, your meta falling down 😊 ---
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 6:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/bittervets-vs-carebears-wardec-rebalance-edition/118363/46 "2018-11-05T18:21:06Z")
> [@Predvodnica\_LSG](#): > > Do not worry about me, worry about yourself, your meta falling down 😊 I’m not worried about you. I do however stand up to trolls. ---
**Author:** ![Mortlake](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mortlake/32/510240_2.png) [@Mortlake](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mortlake)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 6:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/bittervets-vs-carebears-wardec-rebalance-edition/118363/47 "2018-11-05T18:27:26Z")
> [@Predvodnica\_LSG](#): > > Do not worry about me, worry about yourself, your meta falling down At least do your research before spouting shite. You clearly haven’t seen his killboard. ---
**Author:** ![Predvodnica\_LSG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/predvodnica_lsg/32/63657_2.png) [@Predvodnica\_LSG](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Predvodnica_LSG)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 6:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/bittervets-vs-carebears-wardec-rebalance-edition/118363/48 "2018-11-05T18:53:40Z")
> [@Mortlake](#): > > At least do your research before spouting shite. You clearly haven’t seen his killboard. Why are you so obsessed with killboard, killboard is a big farce so you do not look at the important things … ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 7:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/bittervets-vs-carebears-wardec-rebalance-edition/118363/49 "2018-11-05T19:00:05Z")
> [@Predvodnica\_LSG](#): > > your meta falling down > [@Predvodnica\_LSG](#): > > Why are you so obsessed with killboard, killboard is a big farce so you do not look at the important things … Ironically @Whitehound stands to benefit from the proposed changes and the resulting meta, as do I. AFAIK he’s not a PvPer in the molestering of others space canoes sense. It doesn’t mean that we think they’re a good idea or welcome them. ---
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 7:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/bittervets-vs-carebears-wardec-rebalance-edition/118363/50 "2018-11-05T19:11:15Z")
> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#): > > It doesn’t mean that we think they’re a good idea or welcome them. I’m sceptic, but not pessimistic. I do welcome change and since CCP are the only CCP we have, well, I guess the rest explains itself … ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 7:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/bittervets-vs-carebears-wardec-rebalance-edition/118363/51 "2018-11-05T19:18:50Z")
Sceptical is fine, me, I’m just getting cynical in my old age. ---
**Author:** ![Mortlake](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mortlake/32/510240_2.png) [@Mortlake](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mortlake)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 8:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/bittervets-vs-carebears-wardec-rebalance-edition/118363/52 "2018-11-05T20:08:26Z")
> [@Predvodnica\_LSG](#): > > My killboard is a big farce It sure is. ---
**Author:** ![Predvodnica\_LSG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/predvodnica_lsg/32/63657_2.png) [@Predvodnica\_LSG](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Predvodnica_LSG)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 8:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/bittervets-vs-carebears-wardec-rebalance-edition/118363/53 "2018-11-05T20:14:38Z")
Thx good, I do not have to mesaure myself by video game kill list 😊 ---
**Author:** ![Mortlake](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mortlake/32/510240_2.png) [@Mortlake](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mortlake)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 8:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/bittervets-vs-carebears-wardec-rebalance-edition/118363/54 "2018-11-05T20:21:21Z")
Nor do the two guys you’re incessantly slagging off. So what’s your problem? ---
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 8:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/bittervets-vs-carebears-wardec-rebalance-edition/118363/55 "2018-11-05T20:25:38Z")
> [@Mortlake](#): > > So what’s your problem? Narcissism. He often posts these blushing emojis as if to express his superiority like the classic narcissist. He comments on a game he doesn’t play and every comment seems to stem from bitterness and regret, yet he poses himself as supreme. ---
**Author:** ![Maekchu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/maekchu/32/178692_2.png) [@Maekchu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Maekchu)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 8:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/bittervets-vs-carebears-wardec-rebalance-edition/118363/56 "2018-11-05T20:29:48Z")
Ok, so before this derails into the usual Predvodnica trolling dribble. Do you think that the change should be accompanied with a rebalance of structures? People both say that highsec citadels are a PITA to grind down, as well as citadels don’t have enough defence to fend of attacking fleets and thus are too weak. Does the wardec changes make a good occasion to take a look at structure balance, or are structures balanced in their current form or maybe these two issues are really not that related? ---
**Author:** ![Predvodnica\_LSG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/predvodnica_lsg/32/63657_2.png) [@Predvodnica\_LSG](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Predvodnica_LSG)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 8:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/bittervets-vs-carebears-wardec-rebalance-edition/118363/57 "2018-11-05T20:33:16Z")
> [@Whitehound](#): > > Narcissism. He often posts these blushing emojis as if to express his superiority like the classic narcissist. Maybie I am narcissist but unlike you I am right. 😊 ---
**Author:** ![Mortlake](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mortlake/32/510240_2.png) [@Mortlake](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mortlake)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 8:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/bittervets-vs-carebears-wardec-rebalance-edition/118363/58 "2018-11-05T20:34:54Z")
> [@Maekchu](#): > > Predvodnica trolling dribble No chance of that. See above. ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 8:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/bittervets-vs-carebears-wardec-rebalance-edition/118363/59 "2018-11-05T20:35:51Z")
> [@Maekchu](#): > > initial changes How cute, you must be new. I’ll bet you are still waiting for the door to open in CQ? That is what they always say, there won’t be a follow up. It’s just a hack. ---
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 8:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/bittervets-vs-carebears-wardec-rebalance-edition/118363/60 "2018-11-05T20:39:14Z")
> [@Predvodnica\_LSG](#): > > Maybie I am narcissist but unlike you I am right. 😊 That’s a textbook response for a narcissist. Even when others are right are they still wrong in the eyes of the narcissist. What’s more intriguing is that narcissists, when confronted with their behaviour, don’t see their behaviour as wrong. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/bittervets-vs-carebears-wardec-rebalance-edition/118363.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/bittervets-vs-carebears-wardec-rebalance-edition/118363.md?page=4)