# \[Blackguard\] deSilvestris Combat Footage **URL:** \ **Category:** Intergalactic Summit\ **Created:** [January 8, 2020, 3:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/blackguard-desilvestris-combat-footage/210507 "2020-01-08T03:33:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Blackguard\_Intratech](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/blackguard_intratech/32/167515_2.png) [@Blackguard\_Intratech](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Blackguard_Intratech)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2020, 3:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/blackguard-desilvestris-combat-footage/210507/1 "2020-01-08T03:33:40Z")
> The holo opens on a scene of war. The location can be identified as East Hav, a mining settlement in the southern continental zone of Floseswin IV. Minmatar militia troops are conducting an assault on the entrance of a mine where Amarr naval forces have become entrenched. The visual comes from a set of Minmatar combat drones. Apart from being spliced together, the footage does not appear to have been altered. > > The Minmatar troops are approaching the mouth of the mine. They are first greeted by defensive fire, staccato bursts that are placed with deadly precision yet betray that the Amarr are having to conserve their ammunition. With some difficulty, the Minmatar push forward, only to come upon set after set of resourceful booby traps. Here, the footage first begins to grow graphic as Minmatar soldiers are subjected to everything from grenades and IEDs to tripwires and hunting snares. > > There is much hissing and swearing, mostly off camera. > > “■■■■■■■ slavers. When the ■■■■ did they set this ■■■■ up?” someone demands. > > “During the truce!” another voice answers. “While the civilians cleared out!” > > “■■■■ it, that’s gotta be it.” > > The Minmatar soldiers finally reach the entrance of the mine, besting the traps but sustaining significant losses. The barricades set up there prove difficult and time-consuming to push through. Upon entering the cave, they encounter yet more traps. Even the mine itself becomes a weapon: minecarts laden with explosives or just weighed down to knock people over come barrelling down at inopportune moments, blasting devices bring rocks down around them, and everyday mining tools fly out of nowhere. > > The shout comes too late: “It’s an ambush!” > > Before the Minmatar have fully cleared the current round of traps, the Amarr infantrymen fall upon them. Most of the fighting is done in close combat: the Amarr wield knives, tools, the butts of their submachine guns, and even their own hands, feet, and heads against their Minmatar challengers. The footage is sometimes dim and blurred, but the Amarr can be seen to be covered in dirt and dust and blood, a fearsome spectacle to behold. They attack their enemies with zeal bordering on madness. > > At the forefront of the battle is @Ekaterina_deSilvestris . She is just as soiled and disheveled as her troops. She appears to be wounded, through it’s not quite clear how. She still fights with fearless expertise, wielding her Naval cutlass with moves that seem almost dancelike in their gracefulness and preciseness. Yet her ferocity is a touch less than serene. > > As the battle wears on, there are fewer angles of footage; the camera drones themselves are succumbing to damage. In the background captured by one of the last remaining drones, different parts of a mural on the mine wall can be seen. It appears to be a sketch of Empress Jamyl I. > > When the final camera drone goes down, knocked out by a piece of debris, the fight is still too blurred to discern a winner, but the carnage strewn about marks it as a bloody, deadly brawl. ---
**Author:** ![Ekaterina\_deSilvestris](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ekaterina_desilvestris/32/513916_2.png) [@Ekaterina\_deSilvestris](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ekaterina_deSilvestris)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2020, 7:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/blackguard-desilvestris-combat-footage/210507/2 "2020-01-08T19:34:28Z")
I have just this moment returned from Floseswin IV, with barely enough time to dress wounds and debrief. What is this footage? Where did this come from? Is Minmatar Operational Security so lax that anyone can simply steal their Camera Drone footage from a current conflict and post it for general consumption? I admit, it is rather flattering that deSilvestris Household Naval Infantry should be the chosen subject, and I am sure my troops would agree. I am, however, rather intrigued as to the _reason_ for this leak, assuming it _is_ a leak. Doubtless, the Minmatar Ground Troops brought their devices along in order to have a propaganda victory in showing the demise of Amarrian forces, so I am very much sceptical that this has been released by that particular party. I will, however, take this opportunity to say that the enemy fought well, and with Honour. There was no shame for them in this defeat, no shame at all. God was on our side these last days, and we shall be offering our Prayers and Thanks for Holy Mercy and Victory. Aspirant Ekaterina Mariya deSilvestris, Captain, 1 Company, deSilvestris Household Naval Infantry. ---
**Author:** ![Deitra\_Vess](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/deitra_vess/32/249726_2.png) [@Deitra\_Vess](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Deitra_Vess)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2020, 7:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/blackguard-desilvestris-combat-footage/210507/3 "2020-01-08T19:38:10Z")
Some Evacuation effort… I guess firmly reinforcing ground is the new helpless civilians? Hmm? ---
**Author:** ![Ekaterina\_deSilvestris](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ekaterina_desilvestris/32/513916_2.png) [@Ekaterina\_deSilvestris](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ekaterina_deSilvestris)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2020, 9:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/blackguard-desilvestris-combat-footage/210507/4 "2020-01-08T21:13:09Z")
Perhaps you missed that the civilians were evacuated at _my_ request, and not that of their supposed “liberators”? You may also want to check with your allies who were actually there in East Hav, rather than at a safe distance, because I assure you we were not reinforced. Minmatar casualties in that settlement were inflicted by my troops, and mine alone. Although it was a little hard to tell from my position, as I understand it Minmatar ground troops withdrew _before_ further Amarrian forces arrived. I would call that a wise tactical decision on their part, and commend their sense. If you can present a reliable witness from the settlement who saw any reinforcements arrive to support my small force during the civilian evacuation and cease-fire, I’ll be happy to discuss the matter further. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2020, 9:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/blackguard-desilvestris-combat-footage/210507/5 "2020-01-08T21:29:28Z")
Have to say, you’re not on Flos4, they are. Are you sure this qualifies as a ‘defeat’ for their strategic objectives? As for why this was ‘leaked’… look to the source. Clearly, it was leaked to make people wonder why it was leaked, and so that Blackguard Intratech can later claim more or less anything she likes about _why_ this was leaked, _who_ leaked it, and so on, and that we were all fools to fall into her trap of thinking literally anything else, ever. Hell, I wouldn’t doubt she’d claim that the whole ‘carbon-oxygen-based-cellular-respiration’ thing is probably another of her incredibly long-term ploys if she thought she could get away with it. Pay her no heed. We’ll all be better off, that way. ---
**Author:** ![Ekaterina\_deSilvestris](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ekaterina_desilvestris/32/513916_2.png) [@Ekaterina\_deSilvestris](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ekaterina_deSilvestris)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2020, 9:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/blackguard-desilvestris-combat-footage/210507/6 "2020-01-08T21:39:30Z")
I must be mistaken. It must be some mysterious _other_ Amarr that holds the southern regions of the planet, and not that of Her Imperial Majesty. How foolish of me. I suppose I must also have been on some _other_ Floseswin IV for the last two weeks or so. I also mentioned nothing of strategic matters on either side. I said it was a wise _tactical_ decision, for them to withdraw before numerically and technologically superior forces arrived, and so it was. Please do not undermine your own side’s bravery and tenacity. They fought well, and facing them was an Honour. As for Blackguard, you are probably correct. Pay her no mind. Just ignore her. ---
**Author:** ![Cain\_Aloga](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cain_aloga/32/457080_2.png) [@Cain\_Aloga](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cain_Aloga)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2020, 9:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/blackguard-desilvestris-combat-footage/210507/7 "2020-01-08T21:42:16Z")
Numerically superior I am willing to grant. As for your other claim…I’ve seen your technology up close on a number of different occasions. Can’t say that that I was particularly impressed. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2020, 9:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/blackguard-desilvestris-combat-footage/210507/8 "2020-01-08T21:42:48Z")
Have I said all Amarr troops had left the planet? I said _you_ had. Without control of the system, your forces on the ground can’t easily reinforce or resupply. You _were_ on Flos4. Now you’re not. If the Amarr forces need to be removed one at a time, like fleas, then it’s still a victory once they’re gone. ---
**Author:** ![Deitra\_Vess](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/deitra_vess/32/249726_2.png) [@Deitra\_Vess](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Deitra_Vess)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2020, 9:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/blackguard-desilvestris-combat-footage/210507/9 "2020-01-08T21:43:55Z")
Clearly reinforcing your positions isn’t the same as evacuating civilians. ---
**Author:** ![Ekaterina\_deSilvestris](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ekaterina_desilvestris/32/513916_2.png) [@Ekaterina\_deSilvestris](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ekaterina_deSilvestris)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2020, 9:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/blackguard-desilvestris-combat-footage/210507/10 "2020-01-08T21:49:46Z")
You know, it almost sounds like you are relieved I am not currently planetside. I would never have been so arrogant to assume I was such a thorn in the side of the Mighty Warriors of the Republic of Freedom and Light. I am terribly flattered and honoured that you think so of me, but I really must insist that you stop this nonsense talk of me being such a linchpin in the Amarrian war effort. I am but one of God’s Soldiers, nothing more. However, perhaps I _should_ go back. I would not want you or any of your allies to miss me. Besides, I am sure there are more civilians out there who need someone to negotiate them to safety. They sadly cannot seem to rely on you so-called “Freedom Fighters”. ---
**Author:** ![Ekaterina\_deSilvestris](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ekaterina_desilvestris/32/513916_2.png) [@Ekaterina\_deSilvestris](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ekaterina_deSilvestris)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2020, 9:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/blackguard-desilvestris-combat-footage/210507/11 "2020-01-08T21:52:55Z")
No, of course it is not. I did not evacuate the civilians. Lady Llyr and Maira Blackfire did. I merely requested that it be done, so that no more needless innocent deaths be suffered. What _I_ did was use the time available to make my Company’s position more advantageous. I do not believe I would be alone in taking such measures, nor is it against the Rules of War. What did _not_ happen, however, was any further Amarrian forces being brought in, nor those present evacuated. Just as I promised. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2020, 10:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/blackguard-desilvestris-combat-footage/210507/12 "2020-01-08T22:38:00Z")
Well, first: I’m not there, I’m in Delve, so you’re not a thorn in _my_ side at all. To the extent that you were a thorn in anyone’s side, you leaving Flos4 is no more or less significant than any other individual Amarr soldier leaving. And each and every one that leaves is one closer to ‘0 remaining’. But hey, don’t let the fact that I’m pretty open about **not being anywhere near there** get in the way of you claiming I’m one of the active combatants, yeah? ---
**Author:** ![Aldrith\_Shutaq](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aldrith_shutaq/32/378618_2.png) [@Aldrith\_Shutaq](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aldrith_Shutaq)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2020, 10:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/blackguard-desilvestris-combat-footage/210507/13 "2020-01-08T22:59:15Z")
You pop in on occasion. I’ve seen it. ---
**Author:** ![Deitra\_Vess](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/deitra_vess/32/249726_2.png) [@Deitra\_Vess](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Deitra_Vess)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2020, 11:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/blackguard-desilvestris-combat-footage/210507/14 "2020-01-08T23:19:52Z")
> [@Arrendis](#): > > like fleas, then it’s still a victory once they’re gone. Thought they just fumigated them… 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2020, 11:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/blackguard-desilvestris-combat-footage/210507/15 "2020-01-08T23:47:59Z")
I have come into Floseswin _once_ since Sarum’s announcement of illegal attacks on civilian populations. It’s not even hard to [point](https://zkillboard.com/kill/80410022/) to when that was[1]. And I have had absolutely nothing to do with any ground operations. * * * 1. Incidentally, none of the crew died in that fight. I bounced off-grid, got them all out into lifeboats, and then came back in with just me in the hull. Truth be told, that ship had always been intended for a one-way trip. It was just supposed to have gotten it during the summer YC120 campaign. Stupid Horde ran away before we could use the carriers. ---
**Author:** ![Ekaterina\_deSilvestris](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ekaterina_desilvestris/32/513916_2.png) [@Ekaterina\_deSilvestris](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ekaterina_deSilvestris)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2020, 11:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/blackguard-desilvestris-combat-footage/210507/16 "2020-01-08T23:50:50Z")
> [@Arrendis](#): > > But hey, don’t let the fact that I’m pretty open about **not being anywhere near there** get in the way of you claiming I’m one of the active combatants, yeah? I do not believe I actually did make such a claim, though I suppose my words could imply that I was under that impression. Perhaps I was, I did not really give it any consideration about who was where, in all honesty. I was somewhat preoccupied with my own immediate situation. If it makes you feel better and soothes your apparently wounded sensitivites I categorically state to all in New Eden that I do not claim any knowledge, direct or implied, that you, Arrendis, were an active participant in combat on, above, or anywhere near Floseswin IV. Honestly, you Tribals are so _anxious_ all the time. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2020, 12:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/blackguard-desilvestris-combat-footage/210507/17 "2020-01-09T00:00:31Z")
> [@Ekaterina\_deSilvestris](#): > > I do not believe I actually did make such a claim No? > [@Ekaterina\_deSilvestris](#): > > They sadly cannot seem to rely on **you so-called “Freedom Fighters”**. In a reply to me. > [@Ekaterina\_deSilvestris](#): > > I would not want **you** [or any of your allies] to miss me. In the same reply. Both indicate that you are counting **me** among the “Freedom Fighters” who would miss your presence, and thus, are directly involved in the fighting on the ground. But like I’ve said to Meatpuppet over there more than once: don’t let the facts get in the way of making obviously false statements and looking like an idiot. As for ‘wounded sensitivies’… mostly, I just object to people being completely and obviously full of crap like you and Meatpuppet there. I mean, I expect you folks to lie about us. I just think you should, you know, be _competent_ at it. ---
**Author:** ![Ekaterina\_deSilvestris](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ekaterina_desilvestris/32/513916_2.png) [@Ekaterina\_deSilvestris](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ekaterina_deSilvestris)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2020, 12:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/blackguard-desilvestris-combat-footage/210507/18 "2020-01-09T00:10:15Z")
> [@Arrendis](#): > > They sadly cannot seem to rely on **you so-called “Freedom Fighters”**. Your language does have the collective “you” in it? Or do I have it wrong that you consider yourself fighting for the “liberation” of other Minmatar (something many people, I think, would consider to be a “Freedom Fighter”, but perhaps your definition is different). > [@Arrendis](#): > > I would not want **you** [or any of your allies] to miss me. Again, my knowledge of how the Minmatar language works is quite poor, but I do not feel that is quite the same as me saying “Oh, look everyone, Arrendis was on Floseswin involved in the ground battles”. In all honesty, this is a pointless and tiresome discussion and I have more important things to do. The footage shows what it shows, I have no knowledge of how or why it came to be here. ---
**Author:** ![Ekaterina\_deSilvestris](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ekaterina_desilvestris/32/513916_2.png) [@Ekaterina\_deSilvestris](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ekaterina_deSilvestris)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2020, 12:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/blackguard-desilvestris-combat-footage/210507/19 "2020-01-09T00:12:23Z")
Here we go…last word in… ---
**Author:** ![Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elsebeth_rhiannon/32/418836_2.png) [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elsebeth_Rhiannon)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2020, 4:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/blackguard-desilvestris-combat-footage/210507/20 "2020-01-09T04:57:58Z")
> [@Ekaterina\_deSilvestris](#): > > Again, my knowledge of how the Minmatar language No such thing as “the” Minmatar language so indeed. [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/blackguard-desilvestris-combat-footage/210507.md?page=2)