# Blackrise and Lonetrek are Dead. thnx CCP **URL:** \ **Category:** Market Discussions\ **Created:** [August 10, 2020, 2:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/blackrise-and-lonetrek-are-dead-thnx-ccp/259643 "2020-08-10T14:24:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![State\_Soldier\_1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/state_soldier_1/32/336854_2.png) [@State\_Soldier\_1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/State_Soldier_1)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2020, 2:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/blackrise-and-lonetrek-are-dead-thnx-ccp/259643/1 "2020-08-10T14:24:15Z")
The trigg invasion has literally killed the Nonni hub in Lonetrek. As well as the Ichoriya hub in Blackrise. Onnamon has a decent market. But due to no pve content in Ich its pretty much dead too. Akidagi has a citadel that sells lots of stuff. But its cut off via Ichoriya. Akidagi used to be the best system to get fights, like tama or ami. But now its completely dead, and so is the majority of blackrise. So no pvp, no pve, means no ones buying anything. ---
**Author:** ![Brun\_Warbear](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brun_warbear/32/380353_2.png) [@Brun\_Warbear](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brun_Warbear)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2020, 5:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/blackrise-and-lonetrek-are-dead-thnx-ccp/259643/2 "2020-08-10T17:27:41Z")
Should’ve fought the trig invasion then… ---
**Author:** ![Black\_Pedro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/black_pedro/32/257285_2.png) [@Black\_Pedro](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Black_Pedro)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2020, 8:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/blackrise-and-lonetrek-are-dead-thnx-ccp/259643/3 "2020-08-10T20:57:29Z")
I know right? A major invasion is taking place, with permanent consequence to Empire space, and these highsec ~~profiteers~~ industrialists do nothing. I guess they figure someone else should do the work to repel the threat, or maybe it will cut too much into their profits to defend their home (and their income sources). Well guess what? It’s up to you to defend your space. If you don’t want things to change, then stand up and do something. Don’t just sit their grinding compulsively in your hole and then complain when your home is lost to the invaders. ---
**Author:** ![Specia1\_K](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/specia1_k/32/245286_2.png) [@Specia1\_K](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Specia1_K)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2020, 9:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/blackrise-and-lonetrek-are-dead-thnx-ccp/259643/4 "2020-08-10T21:06:37Z")
Edencom - Caldari Navy NPCs suck so bad the systems were lost as soon as they were invaded. Ichoriya lost almost 10% over downtime alone. So easy on the criticism, the defenders came to fight (as did the Kybernauts) and couldn’t win it. This is what I saw after downtime in Ichoriya ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/b/6/b6d91bd86f2fcea8c1c1ca386bc351b005b4f314.jpeg) This happened all over the system. ---
**Author:** ![Scam\_Likley](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scam_likley/32/371559_2.png) [@Scam\_Likley](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scam_Likley)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 7:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/blackrise-and-lonetrek-are-dead-thnx-ccp/259643/5 "2020-08-11T07:23:29Z")
The Akidagi trade hub actually has alot. It alone has over 2k sell orders and 150b isk in items,ships,rigs etc listed. (Also 4 full pages of contracts out of that station as well ). Take a look [https://www.adam4eve.eu/structure\_history.php?id=1032738775579](https://www.adam4eve.eu/structure_history.php?id=1032738775579) Taking a day trip now 2 jumps into LS isnt that bad, I dont tend to see any gate campers around that area either. The citadel there is actually livable because of the services as well. Just gotta poke your head into LS more often ---
**Author:** ![State\_Soldier\_1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/state_soldier_1/32/336854_2.png) [@State\_Soldier\_1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/State_Soldier_1)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 10:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/blackrise-and-lonetrek-are-dead-thnx-ccp/259643/6 "2020-08-11T10:21:35Z")
Bro. Theres no one in the system. Nennemalia is almost completely vacant. Ichoriya is only populated by gate campers. So the market in aki is useless. You will see the trends on the market stats in a month or so. Not to mention the pipe to placid is invaded by sansha incursion. 4 systems of scram frigs and bs on gates. Im just saying, this is getting stupid. Im in the process of moving to npc nullsec to get away from it ---
**Author:** ![Leon\_en\_Marland](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/leon_en_marland/32/232644_2.png) [@Leon\_en\_Marland](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Leon_en_Marland)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 10:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/blackrise-and-lonetrek-are-dead-thnx-ccp/259643/7 "2020-08-11T10:30:50Z")
What people seem to forget is that yes, Caldari systems were easier for Trigs to push, but Amarr systems would literally push themselves against the invasions. Wondered why EDENCOM have some many fortresses? (ignoring the fact that literally half of them wouldn’t be with the new system rules) If no one went to an Amarr system it would hit Redoubt on it’s own over the space of hours. Thing is, no one from EDENCOM will ever come out and say that it needed to happen because an Amarr nerf has finally leveled the playing field and made Amarr systems worth fighting for again. See you on grid ---
**Author:** ![Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tiger_space_thedark/32/373728_2.png) [@Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tiger_space_Thedark)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 11:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/blackrise-and-lonetrek-are-dead-thnx-ccp/259643/8 "2020-08-11T11:13:09Z")
You should have fought the triglavian Instead you probably just watch and complain about, AKA be salty about it. And now you are here, created a forum so that we all know that you are angry because you just watch and do nothing about it ---
**Author:** ![Specia1\_K](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/specia1_k/32/245286_2.png) [@Specia1\_K](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Specia1_K)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 12:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/blackrise-and-lonetrek-are-dead-thnx-ccp/259643/9 "2020-08-11T12:14:32Z")
> [@Leon\_en\_Marland](#): > > but Amarr …is a red herring. Which has absolutely nothing to do with this thread. ---
**Author:** ![State\_Soldier\_1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/state_soldier_1/32/336854_2.png) [@State\_Soldier\_1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/State_Soldier_1)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 1:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/blackrise-and-lonetrek-are-dead-thnx-ccp/259643/10 "2020-08-11T13:34:11Z")
This thread is about Lonetrek and Blackrise markets and the players they supply. Despite your opinion. The fact is these two regions now have a reduced player population. Blackrise in particular. ---
**Author:** ![Leon\_en\_Marland](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/leon_en_marland/32/232644_2.png) [@Leon\_en\_Marland](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Leon_en_Marland)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 2:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/blackrise-and-lonetrek-are-dead-thnx-ccp/259643/11 "2020-08-11T14:18:30Z")
Right, but every Anti-Triglavaian invasion thread consists of people crying that the Caldari need a buff while ignoring the fact that the largest number of systems invaded were Amarr, the race which was far more unbalanced, so my point still stands ---
**Author:** ![Gergoran\_Moussou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gergoran_moussou/32/381607_2.png) [@Gergoran\_Moussou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gergoran_Moussou)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 2:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/blackrise-and-lonetrek-are-dead-thnx-ccp/259643/12 "2020-08-11T14:44:25Z")
Black Rise being dead market is because as a Black Rise resident, I can just run to Jita whenever. Nowhere in Black Rise can compete. ---
**Author:** ![Cannon\_Fodder\_Jane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cannon_fodder_jane/32/223045_2.png) [@Cannon\_Fodder\_Jane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cannon_Fodder_Jane)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 5:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/blackrise-and-lonetrek-are-dead-thnx-ccp/259643/13 "2020-08-11T17:26:26Z")
> [@State\_Soldier\_1](#): > > So no pvp, no pve, means no one’s buying anything. Hello, thank you for the thread, interesting read. It would seem like the situation you describe could be or could become a problem, yet most posters seem to dismiss the very idea that it could be a problem, even though I’m sure you didn’t dream what you saw in those systems. I cannot reconcile the two opinions for lack of experience. Happy moving though… Don’t get ganked in the process. ---
**Author:** ![Dahlia\_Rouvenor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dahlia_rouvenor/32/232215_2.png) [@Dahlia\_Rouvenor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dahlia_Rouvenor)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2020, 3:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/blackrise-and-lonetrek-are-dead-thnx-ccp/259643/14 "2020-09-27T15:08:01Z")
Its not surprising though since this has been the stated intention of CCP since beginning. The removal of highsec via slowburn invasions. Majority of highsec is scheduled to fall by December as they ramp up. Nothing to see here. Working as intended. ---
**Author:** ![Eden\_Trade](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eden_trade/32/380486_2.png) [@Eden\_Trade](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eden_Trade)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2020, 1:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/blackrise-and-lonetrek-are-dead-thnx-ccp/259643/15 "2020-09-28T01:45:41Z")
Not true Black Rise has been very low in trade on the MER that CCP puts out and hasent had a lot of trade value in the past year. Also saying its because Jita is to close and people can just go there that is untrue as well. I sell a lot of stuff just a few jumps out of jita (4 jumps) same with any other place people will buy even if Jita is a few jumps away. I have a trade hub in Tash-murkon and thats 1 jump from Amarr. People ship a lot in Tash- and I make a good profit off of it! So has nothing to do with being close to jita. The main reason for black rise is the residents that live there Snuff/Pen etc. you will get dropped and killed quickly in those areas. Others can not really move in and setup shop to play in that area due to the locals that live in the area. Put up a citadel it will prob get burned down pretty quick. ---
**Author:** ![Jorghinos\_Bukandara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jorghinos_bukandara/32/280452_2.png) [@Jorghinos\_Bukandara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jorghinos_Bukandara)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2020, 4:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/blackrise-and-lonetrek-are-dead-thnx-ccp/259643/16 "2020-10-15T16:38:00Z")
Adding to what Eden Trade said your citadel wont survive anchoring before you get capped dropped so its fun living down here 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2020, 5:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/blackrise-and-lonetrek-are-dead-thnx-ccp/259643/17 "2020-10-15T17:15:49Z")
Hey, at least you don’t have to buy a quantum core, amiright? Look on the bright side. ---
**Author:** ![Iria\_Ahrens](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iria_ahrens/32/511214_2.png) [@Iria\_Ahrens](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iria_Ahrens)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2020, 8:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/blackrise-and-lonetrek-are-dead-thnx-ccp/259643/18 "2020-12-25T08:43:34Z")
> [@Dahlia\_Rouvenor](#): > > Its not surprising though since this has been the stated intention of CCP since beginning. The removal of highsec via slowburn invasions. Majority of highsec is scheduled to fall by December as they ramp up. > > Nothing to see here. Working as intended. Could you link this statement? I’m coming back from hiatus, and google isn’t giving me anything to validate. Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2021, 8:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/blackrise-and-lonetrek-are-dead-thnx-ccp/259643/19 "2021-03-25T08:43:35Z")
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