# Blitz and Burner Guide v1.2.3 **URL:** \ **Category:** Missions\ **Tags:** guide\ **Created:** [July 6, 2017, 5:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/blitz-and-burner-guide-v1-2-3/8974 "2017-07-06T17:14:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Chainsaw\_Plankton](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chainsaw_plankton/32/256180_2.png) [@Chainsaw\_Plankton](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chainsaw_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 5:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/blitz-and-burner-guide-v1-2-3/8974/102 "2018-04-04T17:58:34Z")
> [@Siginaut\_Caledra](#): > > locked vs t3 ^ that, otherwise I’d use a 500mn proteus for the serpentis base, could probably do some cool things in other ships too, but not worth thinking about much as they are locked. ---
**Author:** ![elitatwo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elitatwo/32/373473_2.png) [@elitatwo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/elitatwo)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 6:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/blitz-and-burner-guide-v1-2-3/8974/103 "2018-04-04T18:22:13Z")
@Chainsaw_Plankton, I ran a Serpentis burner last night with not much success until I did something unorthodox with a Succubus. That burner dramiel had a really bad day. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 8:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/blitz-and-burner-guide-v1-2-3/8974/104 "2018-04-04T20:16:34Z")
strange, serp burner is very easy. A bit long, but cap stable hawk fit is good. kills the dd in a clip. the dramiel is quicker but require some cap management. ---
**Author:** ![elitatwo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elitatwo/32/373473_2.png) [@elitatwo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/elitatwo)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 10:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/blitz-and-burner-guide-v1-2-3/8974/105 "2018-04-04T22:08:02Z")
I was talking about the dramiel. That daredevil is a monster. Will try a Hawk tomorrow. ---
**Author:** ![Ploing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ploing/32/466885_2.png) [@Ploing](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ploing)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 11:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/blitz-and-burner-guide-v1-2-3/8974/106 "2018-04-04T23:06:26Z")
u can run the dram in a succubus too. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 12:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/blitz-and-burner-guide-v1-2-3/8974/107 "2018-04-05T00:01:50Z")
> **entry fit** > > ``` > [Hawk, agent serpentis] > Ballistic Control System II > Ballistic Control System II > > Khanid Navy Stasis Webifier > Republic Fleet Target Painter > Gistum B-Type Thermal Dissipation Amplifier > Gistum B-Type Kinetic Deflection Amplifier > Gistii A-Type Small Shield Booster > > Rocket Launcher II > Rocket Launcher II > Rocket Launcher II > Rocket Launcher II > 150mm Prototype Gauss Gun > > Small Processor Overclocking Unit II > Small Warhead Flare Catalyst II > > Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S x1162 > Caldari Navy Scourge Rocket x8042 > > ``` [http://games.chruker.dk/eve\_online/item.php?type\_id=34143](http://games.chruker.dk/eve_online/item.php?type_id=34143) 154 kine + 110 therm dps you need to be cap stable , 30 hp/s and 91/86 in therm/kine resists if you have less you may not be able to tank, unless using drugs. hardshell dose II gives +5% rep for less than 1M isk. You can also bling the BCU to remove the overclock rig and use2\*rigor II ; also use a 150 mm t2 instead of the t1. On the opposite, you can use fed nav web instead of khanid and empty high, to drop the price a little bit and add cap stability. lastly, you can use faction rocket launcher to increase DPS (same cpu cost). > **I'm gonna buy a carrier now** > > ``` > [Hawk, agent serpentis] > Domination Ballistic Control System > Dread Guristas Ballistic Control System > > Khanid Navy Stasis Webifier > Republic Fleet Target Painter > Gistum B-Type Thermal Dissipation Amplifier > Gistum B-Type Kinetic Deflection Amplifier > Gistii A-Type Small Shield Booster > > Caldari Navy Rocket Launcher > Caldari Navy Rocket Launcher > Caldari Navy Rocket Launcher > Caldari Navy Rocket Launcher > 150mm Railgun II > > Small Warhead Rigor Catalyst II > Small Warhead Rigor Catalyst II > > Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S x1883 > Caldari Navy Scourge Rocket x1378 > > ``` If you are not perfect skills I strongly suggest purchasing genolution set. Later you can replace those by ascendency. ---
**Author:** ![elitatwo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elitatwo/32/373473_2.png) [@elitatwo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/elitatwo)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 1:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/blitz-and-burner-guide-v1-2-3/8974/108 "2018-04-05T01:43:08Z")
> [@Ploing](#): > > u can run the dram in a succubus too. Yep, I did that. The fit was somewhat unorthodox but it works. ---
**Author:** ![elitatwo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elitatwo/32/373473_2.png) [@elitatwo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/elitatwo)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 1:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/blitz-and-burner-guide-v1-2-3/8974/109 "2018-04-05T01:47:56Z")
> [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > and 91/86 in therm/kine resists That burner daredevil said no but I have beaten it into submission. I made my own fit if you allow it. After 12 years of making fits, I may have an idea or 2 on how to do that. Happy to report the Hawk prevailed. ---
**Author:** ![Ploing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ploing/32/466885_2.png) [@Ploing](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ploing)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 9:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/blitz-and-burner-guide-v1-2-3/8974/110 "2018-04-05T09:00:48Z")
> [@elitatwo](#): > > > [@Ploing](#): > > > > u can run the dram in a succubus too. > > Yep, I did that. The fit was somewhat unorthodox but it works. ah ok, i thought you run the daredevil in that. what was so unorthodox? ---
**Author:** ![elitatwo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elitatwo/32/373473_2.png) [@elitatwo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/elitatwo)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 11:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/blitz-and-burner-guide-v1-2-3/8974/111 "2018-04-05T11:13:59Z")
My fit was. I need to repeat the result at least once more to confirm. In the meantime I am getting violated by a mothership in highsec. ---
**Author:** ![Ploing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ploing/32/466885_2.png) [@Ploing](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ploing)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 12:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/blitz-and-burner-guide-v1-2-3/8974/112 "2018-04-05T12:09:37Z")
would be nice to see the fit, because i use a succubus vs dram on a daily base. ---
**Author:** ![elitatwo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elitatwo/32/373473_2.png) [@elitatwo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/elitatwo)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 4:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/blitz-and-burner-guide-v1-2-3/8974/113 "2018-04-05T16:38:30Z")
I bet it would. ---
**Author:** ![Ploing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ploing/32/466885_2.png) [@Ploing](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ploing)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 5:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/blitz-and-burner-guide-v1-2-3/8974/114 "2018-04-05T17:34:24Z")
lol, such a secret ? my fit is in the burnerthread. 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![elitatwo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elitatwo/32/373473_2.png) [@elitatwo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/elitatwo)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 7:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/blitz-and-burner-guide-v1-2-3/8974/115 "2018-04-05T19:22:50Z")
No but I need to confirm that this fit can do it more than once. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2018, 1:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/blitz-and-burner-guide-v1-2-3/8974/116 "2018-04-06T13:04:06Z")
“fit in construction”. ---
**Author:** ![Siginaut\_Caledra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/siginaut_caledra/32/196347_2.png) [@Siginaut\_Caledra](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Siginaut_Caledra)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2018, 7:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/blitz-and-burner-guide-v1-2-3/8974/117 "2018-04-14T07:30:27Z")
Any reccomendation on “Minimal” fits? i can do all teams and normals but the other fits require a ton of SP 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Zarek\_Kree](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zarek_kree/32/72533_2.png) [@Zarek\_Kree](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zarek_Kree)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2018, 8:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/blitz-and-burner-guide-v1-2-3/8974/118 "2018-04-14T20:06:38Z")
What do you mean by “normals”? Do you mean the L4 blitz missions or the agent burners? What specific missions are you having trouble with? Bling can often overcome shortages in SP. I don’t think I had more than about 10-12m SP when I first started burners, but I was blinging the heck out of my ships. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2018, 8:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/blitz-and-burner-guide-v1-2-3/8974/119 "2018-04-14T20:33:36Z")
I think he means teams and agents. ---
**Author:** ![Zarek\_Kree](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zarek_kree/32/72533_2.png) [@Zarek\_Kree](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zarek_Kree)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2018, 9:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/blitz-and-burner-guide-v1-2-3/8974/120 "2018-04-14T21:21:52Z")
> [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > I think he means teams and agents. Yeah, if that’s the case, I’d say you can run 2 of the 4 base burners without a huge amount of SP. The Blood Raider Ashimmu can be run with a Gila (just bling up the resists and LSEs to compensate for lower SP). The one below would be pretty safe. I think it can be run with T1 RLMLs if you can’t run T2, but you could also bump those to faction if you had to, but the drones are doing most of the work. [Gila, Burner Ashimmu] Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Ballistic Control System II Pithum A-Type Thermal Dissipation Amplifier Pithum A-Type EM Ward Amplifier Republic Fleet Large Shield Extender Pithum A-Type EM Ward Amplifier Republic Fleet Large Shield Extender Republic Fleet Large Shield Extender Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile [Empty High slot] Medium Core Defense Field Purger II Medium Core Defense Field Purger II Medium Core Defense Field Purger II Caldari Navy Vespa x5 Caldari Navy Vespa x3 Caldari Navy Vespa x2 And the Burner Talos can be run with a cap stable VNI fitted like the one below. It has to be manually piloted with some care, but it’s actually pretty forgiving of mistakes, even with low SP. Talos is worth the effort because it has really good faction drop rates. [Vexor Navy Issue, Cap Stable Burner Talos] Damage Control II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Capacitor Flux Coil II Capacitor Flux Coil II Capacitor Flux Coil II Gist X-Type 100MN Afterburner Gist C-Type Large Shield Booster Pith X-Type Kinetic Deflection Field Pith X-Type Thermal Dissipation Field 150mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S 150mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S [Empty High slot] [Empty High slot] Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Republic Fleet Berserker x5 Republic Fleet Berserker x3 I don’t think the other two base burners can be flown without a HAC now, which requires substantial SP. I used to fly Angel Transport with a smartbombing Cyclone, but the recent “fix” to burner reps killed that fit. I would definitely recommend trying out fits on SiSi first though - especially with the Burner Talos because you have to learn to fly it. ---
**Author:** ![Chainsaw\_Plankton](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chainsaw_plankton/32/256180_2.png) [@Chainsaw\_Plankton](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chainsaw_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2018, 10:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/blitz-and-burner-guide-v1-2-3/8974/121 "2018-04-14T22:49:10Z")
> [@Siginaut\_Caledra](#): > > Any reccomendation on “Minimal” fits? i can do all teams and normals but the other fits require a ton of SP 😃 Most of my fits in the burner thread work with max alpha skills, although they may be pretty challenging and require a bunch of micromanagement, might have more luck with the cap injector setups as those typically have a bit more tank/damage. I really haven’t tried much. I think T2 small guns are pretty important to have, and then decent support skills. If you can run the teams and most normal missions I’d mostly focus on grinding up standings so you can cherry pick in the future. And let your SP work up, t2 small blasters are probably the #1 thing to go for next as the daredevil is recommended to do 3/5 agents. And if you are using the rocket garmur to do the team missions you should be pretty close to a hawk for the daredevil, that just leaves the wolf for the blood agent. > [@Burner Mission - Ship advice to solo them including fittings](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/burner-mission-ship-advice-to-solo-them-including-fittings/9580/7): > > Cap Stable Setups I was recently made very interested in this topic as my connection has been a bit off lately, and well I’ve found an unexpected benefit, It is very easy to dual box with cap stable setups. Any efficiency loss from using less heat, or dropping a damage mod is easily made up for by running a second account in another burner mission at the same time. These were mostly started by Zarek Kree in this thread: [https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6885093](https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6885093) Also a few fi… > [@Zarek\_Kree](#): > > What do you mean by “normals” I assume the non-burner missions. > [@Zarek\_Kree](#): > > I don’t think the other two base burners can be flown without a HAC now, which requires substantial SP. I used to fly Angel Transport with a smartbombing Cyclone, but the recent “fix” to burner reps killed that fit. I use a Vigilant for the angel base. I assume it would work with decent gun skills and both cruisers at 4, but might want to give it a run on the test server first. can use /booststandings to pick whatever mission you want, just takes some RNG to get it pulled. I used a 2 web setup for a long time with max skills so I’m pretty sure 3 t2 webs and minmatar cruiser 4 will work too. No idea if it actually needs t2 guns or not. And then the gurista base no one really does, although when I did do it I used the same vigilant + rigs, changed most other things though. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/blitz-and-burner-guide-v1-2-3/8974.md?page=5) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/blitz-and-burner-guide-v1-2-3/8974.md?page=7)