# Blood Raiders/ New AI in .5 systems **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [February 24, 2018, 7:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/blood-raiders-new-ai-in-5-systems/59536 "2018-02-24T19:02:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Ash\_Beldrulf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ash_beldrulf/32/473706_2.png) [@Ash\_Beldrulf](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ash_Beldrulf)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2018, 7:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/blood-raiders-new-ai-in-5-systems/59536/1 "2018-02-24T19:02:13Z")
As many of you know the Blood Raiders and Blood Raider’s FOB have come to .5 systems this patch. I have some questions about them. 1. Will the Blood Raiders attack unprovoked if you find them in a belt or by POSs? I am getting unconfirmed reports that they Blood Raiders are attacking mining ships unprovoked. 2. If the FOB is killed will the Blood Raiders leave the system? 3. If we don’t kill the FOB what happens? 4. Why are the Blood Raider so hard to kill but their bounties are so very low? 5. Any ideas on ships, fits, or information to kill this FOB or deal with the Blood Raider more effectively? Thank you ---
**Author:** ![Black\_Pedro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/black_pedro/32/257285_2.png) [@Black\_Pedro](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Black_Pedro)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2018, 7:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/blood-raiders-new-ai-in-5-systems/59536/2 "2018-02-24T19:06:30Z")
> [@Ash\_Beldrulf](#): > > 1. Will the Blood Raiders attack unprovoked if you find them in a belt or by POSs? I am getting unconfirmed reports that they Blood Raiders are attacking mining ships unprovoked. > 2. If the FOB is killed will the Blood Raiders leave the system? > 3. If we don’t kill the FOB what happens? > 4. Why are the Blood Raider so hard to kill but their bounties are so very low? > 5. Any ideas on ships, fits, or information to kill this FOB or deal with the Blood Raider more effectively? 1. Yes, if you have bad standing with them. 2. Yes, at least temporarily but it may respawn at a future date. 3. It will despawn… eventually. The time frame is unknown. 4. To make your life interesting. Sometimes, keeping your stuff and space is the reason to fight, not trinkets. 5. No. Figure it out for yourself. The FOBs are not on SiSi exactly for this reason. Just get out there and see what you can do. ---
**Author:** ![Quelza](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quelza/32/36089_2.png) [@Quelza](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Quelza)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2018, 7:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/blood-raiders-new-ai-in-5-systems/59536/3 "2018-02-24T19:06:37Z")
They’re Blood Raiders. It’d be strange if they _didn’t_ attack unprovoked. ---
**Author:** ![Chan\_aar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chan_aar/32/377560_2.png) [@Chan\_aar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chan_aar)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2018, 7:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/blood-raiders-new-ai-in-5-systems/59536/4 "2018-02-24T19:13:19Z")
> [@Ash\_Beldrulf](#): > > Will the Blood Raiders attack unprovoked if you find them in a belt or by POSs? I am getting unconfirmed reports that they Blood Raiders are attacking mining ships unprovoked. > [@Black\_Pedro](#): > > Yes, if you have bad standing with them. It has been my experience since the patch on the 13th of this month that even totally standing neutral characters arriving on grid with a mining team will provoke an aggressive response .. ie the miners will warp out and a response fleet will land and try and kill your ship and pod. ---
**Author:** ![Black\_Pedro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/black_pedro/32/257285_2.png) [@Black\_Pedro](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Black_Pedro)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2018, 7:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/blood-raiders-new-ai-in-5-systems/59536/5 "2018-02-24T19:16:38Z")
> [@Chan\_aar](#): > > It has been my experience since the patch on the 13th of this month that even totally standing neutral characters arriving on grid with a mining team will provoke an aggressive response Well, they do love blood after all. I suggest everyone keep their distance at all times, if at all possible. ---
**Author:** ![Do\_Little](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/do_little/32/411571_2.png) [@Do\_Little](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Do_Little)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2018, 7:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/blood-raiders-new-ai-in-5-systems/59536/6 "2018-02-24T19:25:28Z")
If they are red in your overview they are hostile and will attack regardless of standing. There is a thread in the PVE section of the forums. Not sure how you missed it! > [@diamonds Forward Operating Base / Fob Tips](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forward-operating-base-fob-tips/48501/): > > Greetings, We would like to share our experience on pirate FOBs, to show that dealing with them might not be as hard as it may have considered from compiling previous posts. As we are unknown to the vast majority of the cluster, let’s remedy on this : we are one of the first fleets which have managed to destroy pirate FOBs on a weekly basis both prior and after the patch of december, 05th. Our strategy has gone unchanged even after CCP patch. First things first, let’s keep in mind that Forwar… They will despawn after a couple of weeks in my experience - or maybe someone killed the FOB in my system while I wasn’t looking. ---
**Author:** ![Sebs\_Pride](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sebs_pride/32/181192_2.png) [@Sebs\_Pride](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sebs_Pride)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2018, 8:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/blood-raiders-new-ai-in-5-systems/59536/7 "2018-02-24T20:11:45Z")
It most effective information to date on the forums. Best way to down a FOB currently is 5 attack BS of any kind requiring minumum 5k dps on them all, Along at 3 nestor reppers, youll need at least 90%resists on em/therm And all npc ships will focus one guy at a time, and even with the 90% resists they’ll pump out 6.5k dps on who ever is focus. Focus the FOB jumpdrive when done and warp off, they do not despawn till awhile after you down the fob. Wish I could fine source material ---
**Author:** ![Jorad\_Todako](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jorad_todako/32/195448_2.png) [@Jorad\_Todako](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jorad_Todako)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2018, 8:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/blood-raiders-new-ai-in-5-systems/59536/8 "2018-02-24T20:28:12Z")
If you guys need protection during your ops you can always throw me a pm, I’ll gladly come help out, for a price of course. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2018, 9:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/blood-raiders-new-ai-in-5-systems/59536/9 "2018-02-24T21:23:41Z")
I assume you refer to this thread: > [@diamonds Forward Operating Base / Fob Tips](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/forward-operating-base-fob-tips/48501): > > Greetings, We would like to share our experience on pirate FOBs, to show that dealing with them might not be as hard as it may have considered from compiling previous posts. As we are unknown to the vast majority of the cluster, let’s remedy on this : we are one of the first fleets which have managed to destroy pirate FOBs on a weekly basis both prior and after the patch of december, 05th. Our strategy has gone unchanged even after CCP patch. First things first, let’s keep in mind that Forwar… ---
**Author:** ![Sebs\_Pride](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sebs_pride/32/181192_2.png) [@Sebs\_Pride](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sebs_Pride)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2018, 9:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/blood-raiders-new-ai-in-5-systems/59536/10 "2018-02-24T21:52:39Z")
Yes this one, thank you ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2018, 9:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/blood-raiders-new-ai-in-5-systems/59536/11 "2018-05-25T21:52:42Z")
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