# \[BosAc\] Skarkon II SITREP **URL:** \ **Category:** Intergalactic Summit\ **Tags:** roleplay\ **Created:** [October 22, 2020, 7:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/bosac-skarkon-ii-sitrep/275230 "2020-10-22T07:01:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Valerie\_Valate](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/valerie_valate/32/386231_2.png) [@Valerie\_Valate](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Valerie_Valate)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2020, 1:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/bosac-skarkon-ii-sitrep/275230/141 "2020-10-23T13:52:19Z")
It’s like a rollercoaster of poor word choices, and the ride never ends. ---
**Author:** ![Morgana\_Tsukiyo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/morgana_tsukiyo/32/385507_2.png) [@Morgana\_Tsukiyo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Morgana_Tsukiyo)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2020, 3:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/bosac-skarkon-ii-sitrep/275230/144 "2020-10-23T15:22:17Z")
Perhaps shooting each other would bring more satisfaction than all these words? ---
**Author:** ![Attn\_Thaddeus\_Reynolds](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/attn_thaddeus_reynolds/32/377671_2.png) [@Attn\_Thaddeus\_Reynolds](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Attn_Thaddeus_Reynolds)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2020, 3:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/bosac-skarkon-ii-sitrep/275230/145 "2020-10-23T15:45:56Z")
Or the fact that direct control of docking rights to the station couldnt be managed directly, and the nature of the docking rights of the station makes it to where individuals who may not necessarilly be aligned with strictly humanitarian goals can dock, repair, and resupply. Including those who pose a threat to those forces in the region not aligned with the invaders. Were docking and service access significantly more restricted inwould agree that it would represent less of a strategic threat, but pretending such a setup does not…I mean I’m only an infantryman and maybe there’s a nuance to combat in the void I’m missing but it seems to me like removing a bunker or strong point that one cannot effectively garrison or control. Even if that bunker was built originally by a friendly force and is ostensibly still theirs, if it can be used by an enemy, strategically it represents a threat. That said, as I implied initially, a simple move to destroy it was not the best option available to neutralize the strategic threat such implied. A reasonable person such as yourself could have been made to see how such a structure could represent a threat and actions could be taken to mitigate the level of threat it posed to those within the region. I fully agree that attempting to talk with you and yours would have been far more prudent than opening fire upon it from that perspective, and still maintain that firing upon it was a mistake. ---
**Author:** ![Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elsebeth_rhiannon/32/418836_2.png) [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elsebeth_Rhiannon)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2020, 4:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/bosac-skarkon-ii-sitrep/275230/146 "2020-10-23T16:07:31Z")
> [@Attn\_Thaddeus\_Reynolds](#): > > I fully agree that attempting to talk with you and yours would have been far more prudent than opening fire upon it from that perspective, and still maintain that firing upon it was a mistake. I appreciate that. Maybe having an internal discussion about what exactly it is you are doing here - NAP or coalition-level collaboration - would be in order, though. You can by all means contact me for details on why I think this. Now; since the station has been under attack, its access rights have been switched to SoERR military procedures - which in turn, however, also severely limits its usage in humanitarian operations. Riordan’s offer above could possibly be a way out of this conundrum. We’ll see. ---
**Author:** ![Galm\_Eskola-Fae](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galm_eskola-fae/32/511580_2.png) [@Galm\_Eskola-Fae](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galm_Eskola-Fae)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2020, 4:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/bosac-skarkon-ii-sitrep/275230/147 "2020-10-23T16:12:32Z")
Masterfully put ■■■■■■■■ artistry Else that fails to address any of the strategic threats posed by a citadel that EM could still use to fit, arm, and repair in our territory. I’m genuinely offended you think we’re this dumb. Or maybe you just think your being clever. Either way I don’t buy it and see right through you. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2020, 4:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/bosac-skarkon-ii-sitrep/275230/148 "2020-10-23T16:17:56Z")
> [@Galm\_Eskola-Fae](#): > > Is it so hard to believe I’m a successful diplomat when I’m _not_ dealing with an squawking shitbird? Yes. You are _far_ too easily ruffled, and far too quick to bring condescension and disdain into your statements. You have all of the bearing of someone who does diplomacy _just fine_… as long as everyone already agrees with you, in the main. Which is to say… not actual diplomacy. You don’t handle it well _at all_ when people point out your fuckups, or poke holes in your statements. You don’t recover well from slights, even when given _hours_ or _days_ to compose yourself. And you have absolutely no sense of when to _shut the hell up_. So yes, it is _extremely_ hard to believe you’re a successful diplomat. In fact, as diplomats go, you’re probably one of the _worst_ I’ve ever seen, unless your specific goal though this _whole_ process has been to completely ruin any credibility your organization has, and hurt the credibility of your org’s friends. So if that’s your goal, then :thumbsupparrot: ---
**Author:** ![Attn\_Thaddeus\_Reynolds](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/attn_thaddeus_reynolds/32/377671_2.png) [@Attn\_Thaddeus\_Reynolds](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Attn_Thaddeus_Reynolds)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2020, 4:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/bosac-skarkon-ii-sitrep/275230/149 "2020-10-23T16:29:55Z")
I would offer to place the Station under such protection that I can give or take it into my possession to protect it with certain promises made and maintained over access and purposes it would be used for; however, I have not extended that offer simply because one of my background and nature taking control over a station in what should by all rights be Minmatar space and taking her people under my direct protection is…well, I would predict it may not be looked upon favorably by some even if I did so with the best of intentions. The offer has been implicitly made now though, and I can compensate for the value of the structure and its significance as well, though I understand you have other offers on it. Please excuse our warden, we are infantry by trade and not all of us have had proper etiquette and forms instilled within us. Combine that with the months of fighting the fatigue takes a toll even on immortals. That said, Warden @Galm_Eskola-Fae, I would highly suggest that you reclone to a fresh body and get some rest. You’ve been under a great deal of stress and it seems evident that it will not stop any time soon. Not everyone thinks in military or defensive strategic terms, and I can hardly Rhiannon for being upset that we opened fire on their station. Try to see things from their perspective Galm: Even if it was “just” the shields, it still makes it more vulnerable to any other party who wishes to attack it, to say nothing that being fired at even while protected by shields is not a pleasant experience for those aboard. And that’s to say nothing of how isolated the station is and how relatively difficult it is to defend for them. Now though, I must return to killing these Svarog infantry for what they’ve done to the mortals here, until we’ve “proven” to them that killing these mortal civilians is not acceptable and that such actions must be balanced and furthermore discouraged in the future. ---
**Author:** ![Saronu\_Yassavi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/saronu_yassavi/32/386208_2.png) [@Saronu\_Yassavi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Saronu_Yassavi)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2020, 4:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/bosac-skarkon-ii-sitrep/275230/150 "2020-10-23T16:43:38Z")
> [@Attn\_Thaddeus\_Reynolds](#): > > Not everyone thinks Is becoming increasingly clear as this discourse continues. ---
**Author:** ![Giesta\_Nimbelain](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/giesta_nimbelain/32/498773_2.png) [@Giesta\_Nimbelain](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Giesta_Nimbelain)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2020, 6:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/bosac-skarkon-ii-sitrep/275230/151 "2020-10-23T18:26:56Z")
What a sad, sad little man. Betraying humanity and civilization for a chance at petty revenge against a rival group. ---
**Author:** ![Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elsebeth_rhiannon/32/418836_2.png) [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elsebeth_Rhiannon)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2020, 6:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/bosac-skarkon-ii-sitrep/275230/152 "2020-10-23T18:43:19Z")
> [@Attn\_Thaddeus\_Reynolds](#): > > The offer has been implicitly made now though, and I can compensate for the value of the structure and its significance as well, though I understand you have other offers on it. I will consider all offers, but here I must say that I have in practice equivalent ones that will bypass the cultural issues you aptly described, so serious monetary compensation would be needed for you to pass your competition. (Why people keep on assuming just covering the costs is a fair price for an in practice _unique_ and _irreplaceable_ structure, I don’t know.) ---
**Author:** ![Giesta\_Nimbelain](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/giesta_nimbelain/32/498773_2.png) [@Giesta\_Nimbelain](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Giesta_Nimbelain)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2020, 6:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/bosac-skarkon-ii-sitrep/275230/153 "2020-10-23T18:56:21Z")
I do hope EM sells it to [REDACTED], Miss Rhiannon. The Kybernauts, busy at work cementing their status as enemies to New Eden, will be taught a good lesson in Interstellar Diplomacy. They won’t even see it coming, such is their hubris. They don’t realize that when the dust settles, and the war in the south ends, all eyes will turn to them and they will regret it. ---
**Author:** ![Attn\_Thaddeus\_Reynolds](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/attn_thaddeus_reynolds/32/377671_2.png) [@Attn\_Thaddeus\_Reynolds](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Attn_Thaddeus_Reynolds)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2020, 7:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/bosac-skarkon-ii-sitrep/275230/154 "2020-10-23T19:00:28Z")
> [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](#): > > (Why people keep on assuming just covering the costs is a fair price for an in practice _unique_ and _irreplaceable_ structure, I don’t know.) Many people do not know that value and cost are two different measures one might suppose ---
**Author:** ![Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elsebeth_rhiannon/32/418836_2.png) [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elsebeth_Rhiannon)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2020, 7:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/bosac-skarkon-ii-sitrep/275230/155 "2020-10-23T19:07:21Z")
> [@Attn\_Thaddeus\_Reynolds](#): > > Many people do not know that value and cost are two different measures one might suppose Fair enough. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2020, 7:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/bosac-skarkon-ii-sitrep/275230/156 "2020-10-23T19:58:42Z")
> [@Giesta\_Nimbelain](#): > > I do hope EM sells it to [REDACTED], Miss Rhiannon. > > The Kybernauts, busy at work cementing their status as enemies to New Eden, will be taught a good lesson in Interstellar Diplomacy. They won’t even see it coming, such is their hubris. They don’t realize that when the dust settles, and the war in the south ends, all eyes will turn to them and they will regret it. Doubtful. [REDACTED] will make some use of the structure for their own military readiness, and otherwise use it as a way to make money via lower service fees on manufacturing, research, etc. [REDACTED], like every other [REDACTED] org, doesn’t give a crap about the Trigs, overall. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2021, 7:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/bosac-skarkon-ii-sitrep/275230/157 "2021-01-21T19:59:01Z")
This topic was automatically closed 90 days after the last reply. New replies are no longer allowed. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/bosac-skarkon-ii-sitrep/275230.md?page=7)