# Brainstorming Blackops gameplay: How can it evolve and improve? **URL:** \ **Category:** Player Features & Ideas\ **Tags:** balance\ **Created:** [April 22, 2019, 8:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/brainstorming-blackops-gameplay-how-can-it-evolve-and-improve/154429 "2019-04-22T20:15:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 20
**Author:** ![elitatwo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elitatwo/32/373473_2.png) [@elitatwo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/elitatwo)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2019, 11:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/brainstorming-blackops-gameplay-how-can-it-evolve-and-improve/154429/20 "2019-04-23T23:22:35Z")
> [@Sasha\_Viderzei](#): > > Currently, I feel like a logistic pilot only have three options : > > - Logistic Frigates for small fleets where a Cruiser wouldn’t keep up with the rest of the fleet. > - Logistic Cruisers for pretty much every subcapital engagement that doesn’t require quick movement of the fleet. > - Force Auxiliaries for capital fights. > > And that’s it. T1 ships are pretty much a joke, because the frigates are okay, but since Logistic Frigates are small-sized ships, they can be trained into way more easily than the cruisers counterparts. > That’s my opinion, but I feel like T1 Logistic Cruisers are just a flying joke. They have way less fitting room, and their capacitor use is way too high to be effective. What are you talking about? I don’t know how you fit your logi or why you would put capital remote reps on a small cruiser but if you fit and fly them right, they are a strong force multiplier. The t1 logi cruisers are balanced around using medium remote reps and mwds but in return gain high velocities for fast roaming skirmishes - armor or shield alike. If you take a look at that table, you can see that the difference in rep power is small and t1 logi can be as cheap as 25 million isk with the rep power of a meta fit 400 million isk t2 logi but with speeds up to 2400m/s. > [@Logi love \<3 and values to compare](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/logi-love-3-and-values-to-compare/115038): > > So, I did it again. This time is a little more extensive, not entirely complete but extensive enough. Legend: 1 means meta module 2 means tech 2 module s means storyline module c means c-type b means b-type a means a-type All values are in shield, armor or capacitor per second. Tech one cruisers: Augoror fleet 3x1 = 182 armor + 129.6 cap Augoror fleet 3x2 = 208 armor + 140.4 cap Augoror fleet 4x1 = 242.66 armor + 129.6 cap Augoror fleet 4x1 = 285.49 armor + 129.6 cap (heat) A… --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/brainstorming-blackops-gameplay-how-can-it-evolve-and-improve/154429)._