# BREAKING NEWS: CCP uncovered new math, scientists shoked! **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [April 30, 2020, 2:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/breaking-news-ccp-uncovered-new-math-scientists-shoked/236669 "2020-04-30T14:54:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Mr\_Raven\_101](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_raven_101/32/383465_2.png) [@Mr\_Raven\_101](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Raven_101)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 2:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/breaking-news-ccp-uncovered-new-math-scientists-shoked/236669/1 "2020-04-30T14:54:36Z")
Are you ready guys? 5 daily npc kills - 5000 sp 10 daily npc kills - 10000 sp 15 daily npc kills - 25000 sp This new math definetlly deserve Fields Medal! ---
**Author:** ![Darlo\_Kubika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darlo_kubika/32/178136_2.png) [@Darlo\_Kubika](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Darlo_Kubika)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 3:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/breaking-news-ccp-uncovered-new-math-scientists-shoked/236669/2 "2020-04-30T15:42:49Z")
And? 10k sp bonus for 5 more than 10 npc… And 20 would bring 35k… 25 would bring 40k, 30 would give you 45k 35 you would pay out 55k What is your problem here…really simple math… ---
**Author:** ![Brun\_Warbear](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brun_warbear/32/380353_2.png) [@Brun\_Warbear](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brun_Warbear)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 5:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/breaking-news-ccp-uncovered-new-math-scientists-shoked/236669/3 "2020-04-30T17:56:30Z")
I thing you presumed a pattern with insufficient data. ---
**Author:** ![Gunas\_Takeva](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gunas_takeva/32/245311_2.png) [@Gunas\_Takeva](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gunas_Takeva)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 7:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/breaking-news-ccp-uncovered-new-math-scientists-shoked/236669/4 "2020-04-30T19:26:50Z")
Were you expecting “calculating missile damage” level math? ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 8:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/breaking-news-ccp-uncovered-new-math-scientists-shoked/236669/5 "2020-04-30T20:57:39Z")
exponential growth I would expect 30 kill would = 80-100k SP ---
**Author:** ![Shipwreck\_Jones](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shipwreck_jones/32/274382_2.png) [@Shipwreck\_Jones](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shipwreck_Jones)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 10:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/breaking-news-ccp-uncovered-new-math-scientists-shoked/236669/6 "2020-04-30T22:28:56Z")
🤔OP: Should we complain about kills not counting? 🧠Brain: No 🤔OP: What about the randomness in the tasks, which can leave you running filament after filament to get enough kills of one particular faction? 🧠Brain: Nah 🤔OP: Oh, what about the fact that reward sizes don’t follow a pleasing pattern? 🧠Brain: Okay, but only if we put it in a redundant thread instead of the official feedback thread. ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2020, 12:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/breaking-news-ccp-uncovered-new-math-scientists-shoked/236669/7 "2020-05-01T00:26:39Z")
The other events didn’t have directly proportional rewards either. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2020, 12:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/breaking-news-ccp-uncovered-new-math-scientists-shoked/236669/8 "2020-05-01T00:32:56Z")
I wouldnt be shocked if they would give out 8008135 SP even for 69 NPCs. 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2020, 12:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/breaking-news-ccp-uncovered-new-math-scientists-shoked/236669/9 "2020-05-01T00:33:47Z")
…or decimal values. ---
**Author:** ![Draqolas\_Windfury](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/draqolas_windfury/32/427631_2.png) [@Draqolas\_Windfury](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Draqolas_Windfury)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2020, 1:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/breaking-news-ccp-uncovered-new-math-scientists-shoked/236669/10 "2020-05-01T01:52:03Z")
What is excatly your problem in it? No1 ever said it has to be proportional. You can get 5 kills in 1 site. But getting 15 kills will take more than just 3 sites. ---
**Author:** ![Norrin\_Ellis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/norrin_ellis/32/150282_2.png) [@Norrin\_Ellis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Norrin_Ellis)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2020, 5:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/breaking-news-ccp-uncovered-new-math-scientists-shoked/236669/11 "2020-05-01T05:30:33Z")
What they actually discovered was basic economics. At some point, people will not continue a tedious, repetitive activity unless the marginal benefit (SP) outweighs the marginal cost (a preference to do something else). A player might kill 5 for 5k SP, and he might kill 5 more for another 5k SP, but after that it’s going to cost a little more SP to motivate him to do yet another 5 kills. Sure, plenty of players would probably still do it for just 5k more SP, but more players will do that last 5 kills for the higher marginal SP payout. That also benefits CCP because they’re surely tracking how many pilots complete these tasks daily, so by incentivizing more people to do the work, they get to report that the event was more successful. ---
**Author:** ![Darlo\_Kubika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darlo_kubika/32/178136_2.png) [@Darlo\_Kubika](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Darlo_Kubika)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2020, 8:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/breaking-news-ccp-uncovered-new-math-scientists-shoked/236669/12 "2020-05-01T08:02:50Z")
> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > exponential growth I would expect 30 kill would = 80-100k SP It’s a static growth loop 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Trevor\_Dalech](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/trevor_dalech/32/410287_2.png) [@Trevor\_Dalech](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Trevor_Dalech)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2020, 8:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/breaking-news-ccp-uncovered-new-math-scientists-shoked/236669/13 "2020-05-01T08:40:22Z")
Doesn’t need to be exponential, quadratic will fit the data just fine: _SP_ = _10000 - 2000 NPC + 200 NPC^2_ ---
**Author:** ![Sheldon\_d\_Albion](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sheldon_d_albion/32/496108_2.png) [@Sheldon\_d\_Albion](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sheldon_d_Albion)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2020, 11:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/breaking-news-ccp-uncovered-new-math-scientists-shoked/236669/14 "2020-05-01T11:29:47Z")
It is always complicated to find a pattern with so few data. Why should it be an arithmetic progression ? ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Raven\_101](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_raven_101/32/383465_2.png) [@Mr\_Raven\_101](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Raven_101)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2020, 11:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/breaking-news-ccp-uncovered-new-math-scientists-shoked/236669/15 "2020-05-01T11:42:41Z")
> [@Shipwreck\_Jones](#): > > 🤔OP: Should we complain about kills not counting? > > 🧠Brain: No Obvious thing. I miss triglavs 7 or more abyss in a row on first day of event. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Raven\_101](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_raven_101/32/383465_2.png) [@Mr\_Raven\_101](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Raven_101)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2020, 11:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/breaking-news-ccp-uncovered-new-math-scientists-shoked/236669/16 "2020-05-01T11:45:40Z")
Not when you have 0/5 0/10 0/15 Within same day. Other events has only single task per day. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Raven\_101](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_raven_101/32/383465_2.png) [@Mr\_Raven\_101](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Raven_101)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2020, 11:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/breaking-news-ccp-uncovered-new-math-scientists-shoked/236669/17 "2020-05-01T11:47:53Z")
Or you can get 3 task for same NPC’s 0/5 0/10 0/15 Drones for example, and finish it with single abyss. You think it’s fair? ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2020, 11:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/breaking-news-ccp-uncovered-new-math-scientists-shoked/236669/18 "2020-05-01T11:48:05Z")
And? Having three events rather than one makes your sp gain per day more consistent. You will very rarely get 3x 5k rewards and very rarely get 3x 25k rewards. But you will almost always get something in-between. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Raven\_101](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_raven_101/32/383465_2.png) [@Mr\_Raven\_101](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Raven_101)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2020, 11:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/breaking-news-ccp-uncovered-new-math-scientists-shoked/236669/19 "2020-05-01T11:49:17Z")
> [@Daichi\_Yamato](#): > > You will very rarely get 3x 5k rewards I get this today on 3 characters. ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2020, 11:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/breaking-news-ccp-uncovered-new-math-scientists-shoked/236669/20 "2020-05-01T11:50:32Z")
Sucks to be you. I haven’t got that once. [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/breaking-news-ccp-uncovered-new-math-scientists-shoked/236669.md?page=2)