# Bring Back Blackout **URL:** \ **Category:** Player Features & Ideas\ **Created:** [September 22, 2019, 3:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/bring-back-blackout/191671 "2019-09-22T03:47:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2019, 8:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/bring-back-blackout/191671/22 "2019-09-27T08:39:11Z")
> [@Sgt\_Ocker](#): > > One scout with tackle and or cyno enters system with all chat channels closed so he doesn’t appear in local - He finds target, gets in range and calls in his friends using external comms, like TS, Mumble, Discord and boom - Target has no warning of approaching danger and dies. Yeah, gotta say: coordinating more than two hundred people in a fleet without using _text_ isn’t a problem. ---
**Author:** ![Offline\_Alt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/offline_alt/32/152496_2.png) [@Offline\_Alt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Offline_Alt)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2019, 3:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/bring-back-blackout/191671/23 "2019-10-11T03:59:45Z")
Blackout was a lot of fun. Just remembering all the gangs that were cruising around Catch, bumping into one another. ---
**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2019, 10:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/bring-back-blackout/191671/24 "2019-10-11T22:07:18Z")
> [@Induce\_Deadline](#): > > I was there on day 1 of the blackout in my triple neut stratios ready to go hunting… The problem is every other null resident had the same idea leading to an over abundance of hunters and very few pve targets. What do you need PvE targets for, when there are so many PvPers around to shoot at? Point 3 doesn’t appear to be making sense, could you elaborate? ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2019, 10:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/bring-back-blackout/191671/25 "2019-10-11T22:24:16Z")
> [@Arrendis](#): > > Is there a way to make EVE more fun for both groups? No, because nullbear parasites are not satisfied with anything less than perfect ISK/hour farming with zero risk. The solution is to disregard the fun of people who want to play like bots, remove local entirely, significantly cut the resources available in nullsec, and impose a harsh upkeep tax on capitals (and especially supercaps). Make it impossible to maintain the current capital fleets and take away the ability to peacefully coexist with your neighbors and farm your home systems. Nullbears will whine and cry about how their farming is gone but they can \*\*\*\* off and go back to WoW. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2019, 10:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/bring-back-blackout/191671/26 "2019-10-11T22:26:48Z")
> [@Merin\_Ryskin](#): > > No, because nullbear parasites are not satisfied with anything less than perfect ISK/hour farming with zero risk. Well, if you’re going to insist on being horribly _wrong_ right out the gate… go for it. ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2019, 10:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/bring-back-blackout/191671/27 "2019-10-11T22:33:35Z")
> [@Arrendis](#): > > Well, if you’re going to insist on being horribly _wrong_ right out the gate… go for it. Don’t agree with me? Go look at the AFK cloaking thread or any of the countless whine threads about the blackout. You’ll find tons of nullbear parasites whining and crying about how there’s risk in nullsec and their farming income is in danger. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2019, 10:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/bring-back-blackout/191671/28 "2019-10-11T22:50:30Z")
I don’t have to look in those threads to know how people in nullsec behave. I’m not the one in a 5-man corp for the last 10 years. The people you’re talking about are a very small minority of nullsec. I could just as easily call you a risk-averse parasite, whining about people being able to see you coming, and being able to actually get a few friends together to stomp all over your pathetic attempts to be relevant while you cry over not being able to get easy kills in perfect safety. Instead, I choose to believe there has to be a way to allow people who put in the effort to achieve a level of player-provided security in their own space, just as there has to be a way for other players who put in the effort to be able to circumvent many of those security measures. ---
**Author:** ![Offline\_Alt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/offline_alt/32/152496_2.png) [@Offline\_Alt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Offline_Alt)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2019, 5:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/bring-back-blackout/191671/29 "2019-10-17T05:41:13Z")
Bring blackout back! @Arrendis just admitted he would put in the work to make Goon space just as secure as always! Gosh, I can’t wait for the bait industrials that will abound in Delve 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Sgt\_Ocker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sgt_ocker/32/270881_2.png) [@Sgt\_Ocker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sgt_Ocker)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2019, 6:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/bring-back-blackout/191671/30 "2019-10-17T06:10:09Z")
Not sure industrial’s would make very good bait, except possibly for the most risk averse hunters who only hunt ships that can’t fight back. On the other hand Supers used as bait might raise a few eyebrows. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2019, 1:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/bring-back-blackout/191671/31 "2019-10-17T13:02:42Z")
> [@Offline\_Alt](#): > > Gosh, I can’t wait for the bait industrials that will abound in Delve At this point, every ship ratting or mining in Delve is bait. ---
**Author:** ![Zappity](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zappity/32/502632_2.png) [@Zappity](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zappity)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2019, 1:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/bring-back-blackout/191671/32 "2019-10-18T13:01:10Z")
Maybe activating dscan is what should reveal you in local. Blackout was fun but I’ll admit it was overpowered for hunters. It really is difficult. ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2019, 4:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/bring-back-blackout/191671/33 "2019-10-18T16:07:23Z")
CCP just blows me away how to piss off everyone. Add Blackout, unhappy people quit, happy people stay Remove blackout, make more customers unhappy, people who quit don’t return Once the damage was done it was stupid to reverse course and do more damage. You are not supposed to back up over pedestrians once you hit them 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Otto3d](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/otto3d/32/508591_2.png) [@Otto3d](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Otto3d)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2019, 10:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/bring-back-blackout/191671/34 "2019-10-18T22:06:30Z")
I would disagree with this suggestion, if they dont want local chat then the WH space they should go to. ---
**Author:** ![Ravid\_Bheskagor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ravid_bheskagor/32/472687_2.png) [@Ravid\_Bheskagor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ravid_Bheskagor)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2019, 6:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/bring-back-blackout/191671/35 "2019-10-19T06:36:40Z")
Wormhole space requires too much scanning. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2020, 6:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/bring-back-blackout/191671/36 "2020-01-17T06:36:51Z")
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