# Broaden Black Ops Battleships' potential with directional scan immunity **URL:** \ **Category:** Player Features & Ideas\ **Created:** [July 27, 2017, 2:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/broaden-black-ops-battleships-potential-with-directional-scan-immunity/11964 "2017-07-27T02:31:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Dior\_Ambraelle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dior_ambraelle/32/393685_2.png) [@Dior\_Ambraelle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dior_Ambraelle)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2017, 3:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/broaden-black-ops-battleships-potential-with-directional-scan-immunity/11964/23 "2017-07-27T15:08:43Z")
For a humanitarian organization, they had no problem sending me to kill people in the epic arc. ---
**Author:** ![Chance\_Ravinne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chance_ravinne/32/423798_2.png) [@Chance\_Ravinne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chance_Ravinne)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2017, 3:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/broaden-black-ops-battleships-potential-with-directional-scan-immunity/11964/24 "2017-07-27T15:13:53Z")
People like to say d-scan immunity would be OP but can’t explain why. People thought recons would be OP with it and we see after 2 years it isn’t. ---
**Author:** ![Alderson\_Point](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alderson_point/32/171891_2.png) [@Alderson\_Point](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alderson_Point)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2017, 4:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/broaden-black-ops-battleships-potential-with-directional-scan-immunity/11964/25 "2017-07-27T16:21:22Z")
I’d be happy if they added scan immunity to the Nestor, Its a ship crying out for it. ---
**Author:** ![Mimiko\_Severovski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mimiko_severovski/32/22318_2.png) [@Mimiko\_Severovski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mimiko_Severovski)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2017, 4:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/broaden-black-ops-battleships-potential-with-directional-scan-immunity/11964/26 "2017-07-27T16:37:58Z")
> [@Chance\_Ravinne](#): > > Black Ops battleships serve no serious use in wormhole space Maybe because they have worse stats than t1 battleships ? And wormholes have mass limitations? Like this change would be irrelevant, and its apparent that it was written and proposed by someone devoid of any real indepth game knowledge. The only thing this would do, is make pve even safer than it already is. Do we really want pve in eve to be safer? ---
**Author:** ![Dom\_Arkaral](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dom_arkaral/32/462611_2.png) [@Dom\_Arkaral](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dom_Arkaral)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2017, 4:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/broaden-black-ops-battleships-potential-with-directional-scan-immunity/11964/27 "2017-07-27T16:41:38Z")
if you can be probed down, you aren’t safe by any measure. ---
**Author:** ![Alundil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alundil/32/307802_2.png) [@Alundil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alundil)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2017, 5:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/broaden-black-ops-battleships-potential-with-directional-scan-immunity/11964/29 "2017-07-27T17:01:24Z")
Good post. I like the idea. Ship it ---
**Author:** ![Jonn\_Duune](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonn_duune/32/19078_2.png) [@Jonn\_Duune](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonn_Duune)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2017, 5:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/broaden-black-ops-battleships-potential-with-directional-scan-immunity/11964/30 "2017-07-27T17:03:54Z")
> [@Alderson\_Point](#): > > I’d be happy if they added scan immunity to the Nestor, Its a ship crying out for it. Absolutely not. That’s a horrible idea, Nestors are already borderline OP WH isk printers for those who don’t have capitals. ---
**Author:** ![Jonn\_Duune](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonn_duune/32/19078_2.png) [@Jonn\_Duune](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonn_Duune)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2017, 5:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/broaden-black-ops-battleships-potential-with-directional-scan-immunity/11964/31 "2017-07-27T17:05:51Z")
[quote=“Claevyan, post:19, topic:11964, full:true”] I would love to see the Nestor capable of taking a BLOPS Bridge though. It’s most likely CCP just didn’t think it would be needed or didn’t take the time to add it. [/quote] The problem with doing that is either a) you have to make it covops cloak capable, or b) you have to open up covert cynos/bridging to non-covops ships. There’s a simple solution in my mind if you want to go this route. Give the nestor a fuel bay, and the ability to jump a covert cyno, but not able to fit a bridging module. ---
**Author:** ![Claevyan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/claevyan/32/172971_2.png) [@Claevyan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Claevyan)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2017, 5:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/broaden-black-ops-battleships-potential-with-directional-scan-immunity/11964/32 "2017-07-27T17:17:01Z")
Or just straight up make it a faction black ops. 🙂 When i said “take a black ops bridge” i mean jump to a covert cyno. Not actually take a bridge like Cov Ops ships do. It made sense in my head but the verbiage was incorrect. sorry about that. ---
**Author:** ![Olmeca\_Gold](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/olmeca_gold/32/353637_2.png) [@Olmeca\_Gold](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Olmeca_Gold)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2017, 5:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/broaden-black-ops-battleships-potential-with-directional-scan-immunity/11964/33 "2017-07-27T17:20:14Z")
Chance, I like some of the discussions you initiate. But this is a bad idea. Blops is about jumping, which makes it a nullsec ship. Also the mass. The only gameplay your proposal would improve is DED running PvE ships. Here is a better idea to make blops more useful. Nullsec is safer than it should be due to capital umbrellas. Overfarming is slowly killing the Eve economy. There needs to be counters to the capital umbrella. Give BLOPS ships a cyno inhibitor module. Like the mobile cyno inhibitor, it blocks any normal cynoes at 100 range. Instantly activated, hence why a BLOPS would be a better counter than a mobile inhibitor. It uses blops fuel, works in 1 minute cycles, immobilizes the blops for 1 minute, disables remote assistance (can’t receive reps). If you activate it, you better win the grid or you will lose the blops. So its still a fair risk. ---
**Author:** ![Cristl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cristl/32/13387_2.png) [@Cristl](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cristl)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2017, 5:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/broaden-black-ops-battleships-potential-with-directional-scan-immunity/11964/34 "2017-07-27T17:35:30Z")
Now that **would** be OP. I love the original idea. Gives more options, while not magnifying the power of their current uses. ---
**Author:** ![Kappa\_4Head](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kappa_4head/32/8779_2.png) [@Kappa\_4Head](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kappa_4Head)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2017, 5:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/broaden-black-ops-battleships-potential-with-directional-scan-immunity/11964/35 "2017-07-27T17:59:41Z")
are u actually retarded ---
**Author:** ![Claevyan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/claevyan/32/172971_2.png) [@Claevyan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Claevyan)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2017, 6:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/broaden-black-ops-battleships-potential-with-directional-scan-immunity/11964/36 "2017-07-27T18:07:29Z")
Olmeca does have a point about the DED site runners though, allowing for a battleship to run them dscan immune. Granted, you’d be able to combat probe them down still and see the pilots in local, and wrecks on dscan… Overall i prefer the original idea. ---
**Author:** ![Cristl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cristl/32/13387_2.png) [@Cristl](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cristl)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2017, 6:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/broaden-black-ops-battleships-potential-with-directional-scan-immunity/11964/37 "2017-07-27T18:12:45Z")
> [@Kappa\_4Head](#): > > are u actually retarded No. Why do you ask? As for ratter safety: that needs a whole lot of change, and it ain’t battleship ratting that’s knackering the economy. ---
**Author:** ![Kappa\_4Head](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kappa_4head/32/8779_2.png) [@Kappa\_4Head](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kappa_4Head)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2017, 6:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/broaden-black-ops-battleships-potential-with-directional-scan-immunity/11964/38 "2017-07-27T18:20:57Z")
I’m actually referring to mr. wingspan here. ---
**Author:** ![Kappa\_4Head](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kappa_4head/32/8779_2.png) [@Kappa\_4Head](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kappa_4Head)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2017, 6:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/broaden-black-ops-battleships-potential-with-directional-scan-immunity/11964/39 "2017-07-27T18:50:16Z")
Believe it or not a change like this would actually help krabs more than pvpers. Uncatchable DED blops will be even more uncatchable. And what’s the call for this need? They’re not so popular in wormholes? What do you expect, it’s a BS with a ■■■■■■■ jump drive. It’s also a T2 hull which means that if you value your ISK you shouldn’t be flying (truly) solo. The jump drive mechanic is a part of their niche roll so your argument is basically like saying ‘logi needs a change because they can’t be flown truly solo’. Relying solely on their jump drive is actually what makes them so good. The rest of your arguments are pretty much nullifed by an expanded probe launcher and a set of combat probes (which isn’t something uncommon at all in j-space) so I don’t see your point. ---
**Author:** ![Chance\_Ravinne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chance_ravinne/32/423798_2.png) [@Chance\_Ravinne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chance_Ravinne)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2017, 9:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/broaden-black-ops-battleships-potential-with-directional-scan-immunity/11964/40 "2017-07-27T21:36:18Z")
TIL T2 means a ship can’t be run solo. Why did noone tell me this sooner? ---
**Author:** ![Petrified](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/petrified/32/243936_2.png) [@Petrified](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Petrified)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2017, 9:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/broaden-black-ops-battleships-potential-with-directional-scan-immunity/11964/41 "2017-07-27T21:53:54Z")
I wasn’t sure what to expect when I saw the title, but the proposal is one I can get behind. I think the DScan immunity would be a great improvement to these ships and expand their use and usefulness in all areas of space. And for those who don’t know: I am a bit of a bear. A sleepy grouchy bear, but a bear none-the-less. ---
**Author:** ![Kazmani\_Vindictus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kazmani_vindictus/32/120678_2.png) [@Kazmani\_Vindictus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kazmani_Vindictus)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2017, 2:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/broaden-black-ops-battleships-potential-with-directional-scan-immunity/11964/42 "2017-07-28T02:41:09Z")
I like it. BLOPs are extremely specialized, and this is good, but it’d be nice to see a way to use them that shakes things up. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_Paradisi\_Anteovnuecci](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_paradisi_anteovnuecci/32/388691_2.png) [@Uriel\_Paradisi\_Anteovnuecci](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_Paradisi_Anteovnuecci)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2017, 2:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/broaden-black-ops-battleships-potential-with-directional-scan-immunity/11964/43 "2017-07-28T02:52:11Z")
I’ve never understood the reasoning behind denying them the CovOps cloak - this would work just as nicely, though. At the very least, I’d like to see something new on the Marshal - it’ll be hard to justify undocking it otherwise, with its rarity [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/broaden-black-ops-battleships-potential-with-directional-scan-immunity/11964.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/broaden-black-ops-battleships-potential-with-directional-scan-immunity/11964.md?page=3)