# Broken Pirating and Ganking with no Counter **URL:** \ **Category:** Assembly Hall\ **Created:** [December 5, 2023, 12:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/broken-pirating-and-ganking-with-no-counter/430974 "2023-12-05T00:39:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Muad\_Dib\_Alveides](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/muad_dib_alveides/32/408521_2.png) [@Muad\_Dib\_Alveides](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Muad_Dib_Alveides)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2024, 8:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/broken-pirating-and-ganking-with-no-counter/430974/62 "2024-01-29T20:23:35Z")
Ok, i will stop this talk, because i seem to not get through with my point and that is on me. I have never said ban gankers or ganking, i said more balance to the mechanic. I have never implied anyone to be murderers, but if you look at most gankers behavior in game it tells a certain story about the person behind. We will never agree, so no point in continue this so called debate. You are one of the few who actually present real arguments, as most are responding the way i expect from most gankers. I wish for you to enjoy your easy kills and gank away. I will adapt and find my ways around you and maybe see you gank you back šŸ˜‰ Fly safe and enjoy the game šŸ˜‰ ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2024, 9:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/broken-pirating-and-ganking-with-no-counter/430974/63 "2024-01-29T21:18:27Z")
> [@Muad\_Dib\_Alveides](#): > > if you look at most gankers behavior in game it tells a certain story about the person behind Thats a stretch. People are playing with the mechanics of the game itself. Doesnt mean its a reflection of the person behind the pc. ---
**Author:** ![Vuhdo\_Rin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vuhdo_rin/32/378868_2.png) [@Vuhdo\_Rin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vuhdo_Rin)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2024, 9:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/broken-pirating-and-ganking-with-no-counter/430974/64 "2024-01-29T21:29:35Z")
> [@Muad\_Dib\_Alveides](#): > > have never said ban gankers or ganking, i said more balance to the mechanic youre right ive never saw any specifics from you ( but i also dont search for it ) but as i read in all the threads out there all the antiganking dudes want to ban ganking or heavy restricted ! maybe you can bring out some points you would try to balance and maybe they are a, okish way we could discuss about ? > [@Muad\_Dib\_Alveides](#): > > I have never implied anyone to be murderers, but if you look at most gankers behavior in game it tells a certain story about the person behind. but youve said that actions in a fictional simulation are a reflection of a RL persons metal health ! and there are an enormus amount of games out there where itĀ“s ok to ā€œkillā€ the pixelĀ“s of another gamer. iĀ“ve just collected a few popular shooters ā€¦ and the mental health of anyone cannot be detected by playing a video game ! thats almost impossible ā€¦ ! if you would say that communication of one person in a video game could tell us ā€¦ then its way more possible then the actual actions of this person ! btw ā€¦ i know you dont say they are psychopathĀ“s but there is not much room for many interpretations if i read your post about mental health and video games ! > [@Muad\_Dib\_Alveides](#): > > I wish for you to enjoy your easy kills and gank away. as said before iĀ“m not a ganker but still i can collect easy kills like everyone else in a game with a lot of PvP šŸ˜‰ > [@Muad\_Dib\_Alveides](#): > > I will adapt and find my ways around you you dont need to avoid me xD iĀ“m mostly not looking for revenge if ppl having other opinions and still iĀ“m not a ganker šŸ˜‰ if you take a closer look on my KB then you could notice ! but, the best thing anybody can do in eve is ā†’ Adapt ! so your doing the only thing we all need to do ! ---
**Author:** ![Hyrja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hyrja/32/412180_2.png) [@Hyrja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hyrja)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2024, 3:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/broken-pirating-and-ganking-with-no-counter/430974/65 "2024-01-30T03:23:53Z")
As I read over all thisā€¦a question. Who flies a freighter no webbing scout. Friend or dualbox, pick one. You see if the scout jumps first and goes this gate is looking scary even for a frigate to land inā€¦the freighter should not jump. The web is to not have utter butt times for align to warp, ofc. Or was webbing freighter trick removed in my years away? ---
**Author:** ![Komi\_Valentine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/komi_valentine/32/502956_2.png) [@Komi\_Valentine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Komi_Valentine)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2024, 3:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/broken-pirating-and-ganking-with-no-counter/430974/66 "2024-02-11T15:54:56Z")
I think the Problem is that a Freighter is basically a capital but has \< Battleship EHP making it very volunerable to ganks. How can an Orca easily get \>1mil EHP but the Freighters struggle to get even 500k ? Itā€™s just out of proportionsā€¦ it doesnā€™t make any sense. 5 DSTs are way better and more efficient transporting that stuff around. Freighters need a buff for sure. In reality the bigger your freighter, the better the efficiencyā€¦ in Eve itā€™s reversed. The bigger your ship the worse your efficiency. Here is a graphic of different ships and their Cargo capacity in mĀ³: ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/8/3/0/83072d42ce281b5a1075bf5292165787aacb5ac9.jpeg) What is all that space on the Fenrir wasted on if not for Bulkheads? šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![Wes\_Wyhunnan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wes_wyhunnan/32/409400_2.png) [@Wes\_Wyhunnan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wes_Wyhunnan)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2024, 3:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/broken-pirating-and-ganking-with-no-counter/430974/67 "2024-02-12T15:47:16Z")
> [@Muad\_Dib\_Alveides](#): > > I have never implied anyone to be murderers, but if you look at most gankers behavior in game it tells a certain story about the person behind Of the people I know in real life who gank in game there is a music teacher, an accountant, and a Subaru mechanic. You know, real degenerate types. šŸ™„ ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2024, 3:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/broken-pirating-and-ganking-with-no-counter/430974/68 "2024-02-12T15:57:41Z")
Sounds like a real nasty gang! They probably hurt cute animals in dark rituals. One can tell by their behaviour in an online game! ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2024, 4:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/broken-pirating-and-ganking-with-no-counter/430974/69 "2024-02-12T16:19:20Z")
A music teacher, an accountant, and a Subaru mechanic walks into a barā€¦ > **...** > > They see a miner drinking without a permit at the counter. > > > **...** > > > > So they gank the miner right away. > > > > > **...** > > > > > > `Ba dum tsh` > > > > > > šŸ˜ˆ šŸæ :dealwithitparrot: šŸ˜‰ ---
**Author:** ![Phelan\_Kheldian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/phelan_kheldian/32/450826_2.png) [@Phelan\_Kheldian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Phelan_Kheldian)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2024, 2:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/broken-pirating-and-ganking-with-no-counter/430974/70 "2024-04-08T02:46:03Z")
Yes, there is nothing anyone can do to avoid getting ganked. Not anything they can doā€¦ [A Nobodyā€™s Guide to Not Getting Ganked](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/a-nobodys-guide-to-not-getting-ganked/404860) ---
**Author:** ![New\_Order\_Enforcer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/new_order_enforcer/32/387867_2.png) [@New\_Order\_Enforcer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/New_Order_Enforcer)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2024, 5:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/broken-pirating-and-ganking-with-no-counter/430974/71 "2024-04-08T17:31:34Z")
are the CSM members taking note? ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2024, 5:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/broken-pirating-and-ganking-with-no-counter/430974/72 "2024-07-07T17:31:35Z")
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