# Bug, exploit, or scammer paradise?

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/bug-exploit-or-scammer-paradise/241965>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [May 17, 2020, 8:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/bug-exploit-or-scammer-paradise/241965 "2020-05-17T20:41:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Steve\_Ronuken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/steve_ronuken/32/373894_2.png) [@Steve\_Ronuken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Steve_Ronuken)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2020, 9:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/bug-exploit-or-scammer-paradise/241965/21 "2020-05-17T21:34:49Z")

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> [@zazzmatazz\_Xu](#):
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> English to metric measurement

Or, as they’re called in the UK, Imperial measurements. Not English measurements.  
(In the UK, we don’t use imperial for much these days. Miles, sure. And human heights and weights. Pretty much everything else is in metric, which just makes more sense.)

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**Author:** ![zazzmatazz\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zazzmatazz_xu/32/451037_2.png) [@zazzmatazz\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/zazzmatazz_Xu)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2020, 9:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/bug-exploit-or-scammer-paradise/241965/22 "2020-05-17T21:39:28Z")

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> [@Steve\_Ronuken](#):
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> Imperial measurements

Meh, King’s English or proper English like Americans speak, just kidding, you know what I meant so stop trying to be cheeky.

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**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2020, 9:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/bug-exploit-or-scammer-paradise/241965/23 "2020-05-17T21:44:29Z")

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> [@zazzmatazz\_Xu](#):
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> So looking at contracts today I came across a BPC I wanted, had the ISK, accepted contract, failed, not enough is, price says billion, but price is really trillions.

Yea that looks like 3.4 Billion ISK at first glance. But it isn’t.

Regional differences\* in the use of [decimal separators](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimal_separator) and different uses of the [long and short scales](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_and_short_scales) makes it easy to accidentally mess up trading with these large numbers, and a mistake of three zeroes will be a costly one.

When in doubt, count the zeroes.

\*_Your amount of 3 400 000 000 000 ISK would actually be 3,4 ‘Biljoen’ ISK where I’m from (the Netherlands), or 3400 ‘Miljard’ ISK. Still a 1000 times more than you would expect. 😛_

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**Author:** ![zazzmatazz\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zazzmatazz_xu/32/451037_2.png) [@zazzmatazz\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/zazzmatazz_Xu)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2020, 9:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/bug-exploit-or-scammer-paradise/241965/24 "2020-05-17T21:49:40Z")

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> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#):
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> easy to accidentally mess up trading with these large numbers

Especially when I typically deal in 00 or 000 as I’m not lucky enough to have that problem in real life counting my billions much less millions, not even hundreds of thousands, or tens of thousands…now I’m sad.

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**Author:** ![Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/archer_en_tilavine/32/461718_2.png) [@Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Archer_en_Tilavine)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2020, 9:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/bug-exploit-or-scammer-paradise/241965/25 "2020-05-17T21:52:07Z")

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~~You should file a feature request where Aura pops up and advises you when the value requested exceeds the estimated value of the goods provided by a large margin~~

(That was a joke.)

At times like these I wish Clippy were around to give me good advice…  
 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/f/0/f07c8340d9a6d609ae53b01c0d4b1c7a9320a300.png)

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**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2020, 9:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/bug-exploit-or-scammer-paradise/241965/26 "2020-05-17T21:53:08Z")

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> [@Archer\_en\_Tilavine](#):
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> You should file a feature request where Aura pops up and advises you when the value requested exceeds the estimated value of the goods provided by a large margin

This is true for market offers though, just not for contracts.

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**Author:** ![Wanda\_Fayne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wanda_fayne/32/377654_2.png) [@Wanda\_Fayne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wanda_Fayne)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2020, 9:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/bug-exploit-or-scammer-paradise/241965/27 "2020-05-17T21:58:25Z")

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I sold my first ever contract in Jita local by calling it “definitely a scam contract”.  
True story.

Then I sweet-talked another player into free T2 rigs in a Bhaalgorn by promise of some sort of pictures…

I miss the old Jita…  
wait…  
no I don’t!

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**Author:** ![Foggy\_Bernstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/foggy_bernstein/32/407887_2.png) [@Foggy\_Bernstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Foggy_Bernstein)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2020, 10:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/bug-exploit-or-scammer-paradise/241965/28 "2020-05-17T22:05:54Z")

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WTF is with you CCP apologists? The way they print numbers might be accurate, but it’s completely stupid.  
Kind of like me telling people that I’m 0.00113636 miles tall. Accurate…but stupid.

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**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2020, 10:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/bug-exploit-or-scammer-paradise/241965/29 "2020-05-17T22:11:06Z")

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Nice tears. Nobody even lost anything. I love it.

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**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2020, 10:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/bug-exploit-or-scammer-paradise/241965/30 "2020-05-17T22:24:18Z")

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i recommend this game , its very good and helps with this scam

 ![Captura de Tela 2020-05-17 às 19.23.25](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/f/5/f5ef988d63b0613ef46a797454efeb7d9abe8262.jpeg)  
not kidding its a great puzzler , and teachs math

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**Author:** ![zazzmatazz\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zazzmatazz_xu/32/451037_2.png) [@zazzmatazz\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/zazzmatazz_Xu)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2020, 10:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/bug-exploit-or-scammer-paradise/241965/31 "2020-05-17T22:28:52Z")

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> [@tutucox\_Khamsi](#):
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> great puzzler

I like these built into games, NMS does something similar but more logic puzzles when trying to unlock those outposts we find.

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2020, 10:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/bug-exploit-or-scammer-paradise/241965/32 "2020-05-17T22:43:06Z")

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> [@tutucox\_Khamsi](#):
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> i recommend this game , its very good and helps with this scam
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> ![Captura de Tela 2020-05-17 às 19.23.25](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/f/5/f5ef988d63b0613ef46a797454efeb7d9abe8262.jpeg)  
> not kidding its a great puzzler , and teachs math

Err, I hope that was directed at the OP.

I do math for a living…

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**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2020, 10:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/bug-exploit-or-scammer-paradise/241965/33 "2020-05-17T22:45:17Z")

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> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#):
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> _text_ says “3,400.00 Billion” instead of “3.40 Trillion”

i reply to you because you were very coherent iin your math post , i even got you a heart ❤  
not for you, but this game ROCK try it you will love it

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**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2020, 10:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/bug-exploit-or-scammer-paradise/241965/34 "2020-05-17T22:56:13Z")

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> [@zazzmatazz\_Xu](#):
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> It may be accurate but like all things it is not always clear at first glance, but that’s what we call “fine print” or manipulation to deceive others, CCP may not mean it to be deceitful but bottom line it is a way to trick others.

It’s not really fine print though.

Your picture’s cleary show a significant price difference to the other contracts. They are even ordered **by price!**

If you fall for something that isn’t clear at first glance, you’re obviously not taking enough glances. Always double check the information when it comes to contracts. Always.

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**Author:** ![zazzmatazz\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zazzmatazz_xu/32/451037_2.png) [@zazzmatazz\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/zazzmatazz_Xu)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2020, 11:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/bug-exploit-or-scammer-paradise/241965/35 "2020-05-17T23:07:12Z")

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> [@Daichi\_Yamato](#):
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> Always double check the information when it comes to contracts. Always

You know that’s right. 🤫

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**Author:** ![Darlo\_Kubika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darlo_kubika/32/178136_2.png) [@Darlo\_Kubika](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Darlo_Kubika)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2020, 6:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/bug-exploit-or-scammer-paradise/241965/36 "2020-05-18T06:38:58Z")

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> [@tutucox\_Khamsi](#):
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> not kidding its a great puzzler , and teachs math

The real question here is who needs a game like this or finds math fun?

Math is hell out of itself…and avoiding it at any cost is the only real way to deal with it…

I couldn’t and cannot see any reason or logic or fun in a math problem form my first day at school 'til today,i simply do not understand them and i find proud in the words :I am anti-mathematic… 🙂

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**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2020, 6:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/bug-exploit-or-scammer-paradise/241965/37 "2020-05-18T06:58:21Z")

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> [@Darlo\_Kubika](#):
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> The real question here is who needs a game like this or finds math fun?
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> Math is hell out of itself…and avoiding it at any cost is the only real way to deal with it…

Math isn’t only fun, it’s also incredibly useful. Similar to logic.

Which may explain why you don’t like math.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2020, 7:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/bug-exploit-or-scammer-paradise/241965/38 "2020-05-18T07:03:27Z")

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He just doesnt like fun

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**Author:** ![Theodarum](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/theodarum/32/479608_2.png) [@Theodarum](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Theodarum)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2020, 7:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/bug-exploit-or-scammer-paradise/241965/39 "2020-05-18T07:05:07Z")

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Checking the price is for poor people.

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**Author:** ![Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/archer_en_tilavine/32/461718_2.png) [@Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Archer_en_Tilavine)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2020, 7:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/bug-exploit-or-scammer-paradise/241965/40 "2020-05-18T07:05:23Z")

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Bring back margin trading! 😛

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