# Burner Mission - Ship advice to solo them including fittings **URL:** \ **Category:** Missions\ **Tags:** guide\ **Created:** [July 11, 2017, 5:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/burner-mission-ship-advice-to-solo-them-including-fittings/9580 "2017-07-11T05:57:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![Birk\_Ernaga](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/birk_ernaga/32/172235_2.png) [@Birk\_Ernaga](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Birk_Ernaga)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2018, 6:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/burner-mission-ship-advice-to-solo-them-including-fittings/9580/268 "2018-08-04T18:12:18Z")
the daredevil one ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2018, 7:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/burner-mission-ship-advice-to-solo-them-including-fittings/9580/269 "2018-08-04T19:09:36Z")
go for the enyo !!! ---
**Author:** ![Ploing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ploing/32/466885_2.png) [@Ploing](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ploing)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2018, 7:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/burner-mission-ship-advice-to-solo-them-including-fittings/9580/270 "2018-08-04T19:37:27Z")
looks like the support skills are not high enough. you should have just no probs to catch him with a daredevil. can you post your fit? maybe u picked the wrong one. ---
**Author:** ![Qberty\_Thoth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/qberty_thoth/32/172149_2.png) [@Qberty\_Thoth](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Qberty_Thoth)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2018, 12:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/burner-mission-ship-advice-to-solo-them-including-fittings/9580/271 "2018-08-06T12:10:51Z")
I know I’m late, but here’s a video featuring my fit albeit with some modifications : It took me about 35 minutes to finish this mission but it can be ran with the certainty that you are not going to wipe. (I tried the vigilant fit but I ran out of boosters each time I tried) Now that mutaplasmids are available I wonder if I can shorten the mission duration with a 18km web on the mantises. Feel free to test or modify my fit on your own. ---
**Author:** ![Ploing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ploing/32/466885_2.png) [@Ploing](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ploing)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2018, 2:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/burner-mission-ship-advice-to-solo-them-including-fittings/9580/272 "2018-08-06T14:06:26Z")
when u change the booster to a pith a medium you got about the same tank but can get rid of the caprecharger to add a 3 rd bc. this should speed up things. ---
**Author:** ![Qberty\_Thoth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/qberty_thoth/32/172149_2.png) [@Qberty\_Thoth](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Qberty_Thoth)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2018, 7:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/burner-mission-ship-advice-to-solo-them-including-fittings/9580/273 "2018-08-07T07:35:28Z")
> [@Ploing](#): > > when u change the booster to a pith a medium you got about the same tank but can get rid of the caprecharger to add a 3 rd bc. this should speed up things. I don’t think the tank is enough, before using the large one, i used a medium one on SiSi and wiped, you need at least 65hp/s of boost with these resists to tank through the onslaught of the dragonflies and the mantises. You can try if you want though… ---
**Author:** ![Ploing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ploing/32/466885_2.png) [@Ploing](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ploing)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2018, 8:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/burner-mission-ship-advice-to-solo-them-including-fittings/9580/274 "2018-08-07T08:45:48Z")
no for a test it´s to long 😃 maybe when i plan to do the guristas myself. but you can test it easy on sisi now since all faction and ded mods are available for 100 bucks. i just took a quick look yesterday and was a bit wrong about the tank. 🤨 but maybe the pith a med with a pith x hardener can hold, because with ~40 dps more you have to tank less damage when the first one dies quicker. ---
**Author:** ![elitatwo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elitatwo/32/373473_2.png) [@elitatwo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/elitatwo)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2018, 9:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/burner-mission-ship-advice-to-solo-them-including-fittings/9580/275 "2018-08-07T09:33:35Z")
We should make a plea to reduce the time consumption of the Guristas burner to an acceptable level - event the abyssal sites are shorter. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2018, 9:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/burner-mission-ship-advice-to-solo-them-including-fittings/9580/276 "2018-08-07T09:36:27Z")
or just modify the reward gain algorithm. it is supposed to take into account the lowest time achieved to make the mission, however it looks like the data used is so old this is no more reliable. ---
**Author:** ![Qberty\_Thoth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/qberty_thoth/32/172149_2.png) [@Qberty\_Thoth](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Qberty_Thoth)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2018, 9:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/burner-mission-ship-advice-to-solo-them-including-fittings/9580/277 "2018-08-07T09:48:03Z")
Yeah they should definitely increase the reward by at least 3x because apart from chilling out between 2 burners, this mission is garbage but at least everytime I do it there’s a faction ammo (some time a module, I even got a Gila BPC once) drop at least. ---
**Author:** ![Qberty\_Thoth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/qberty_thoth/32/172149_2.png) [@Qberty\_Thoth](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Qberty_Thoth)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2018, 10:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/burner-mission-ship-advice-to-solo-them-including-fittings/9580/278 "2018-08-07T10:15:32Z")
> [@elitatwo](#): > > We should make a plea to reduce the time consumption of the Guristas burner to an acceptable level - event the abyssal sites are shorter. I’m pretty sure if I can get my hand on a 18 km stasis webifier I can kill each mantis in one load of RLML thus reducing the time needed to complete the mission. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2018, 10:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/burner-mission-ship-advice-to-solo-them-including-fittings/9580/279 "2018-08-07T10:24:06Z")
try with a pith x LSB and a rf large cap battery. You should be cap stable and have more ehp/s with a exp screen rig than your current fit with a cap rig. ---
**Author:** ![Ploing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ploing/32/466885_2.png) [@Ploing](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ploing)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2018, 4:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/burner-mission-ship-advice-to-solo-them-including-fittings/9580/280 "2018-08-07T16:33:54Z")
@Anderson_Geten is right [Cerberus, Burner Guristas] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Pith X-Type Large Shield Booster Gist X-Type Explosive Deflection Field Republic Fleet Large Cap Battery Republic Fleet Target Painter Stasis Webifier II Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Precision Light Missile Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Precision Light Missile Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Precision Light Missile Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Precision Light Missile Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Precision Light Missile Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Precision Light Missile Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II Medium Anti-Explosive Screen Reinforcer II Acolyte II x3 stronger tank and more dps. should be worth the trade with one tp. if you comfortable with the tank you could also switch a rig for a rigor or flare. maybe think about a fed nav web with oh. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2018, 7:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/burner-mission-ship-advice-to-solo-them-including-fittings/9580/281 "2018-08-07T19:50:44Z")
actually I think even removing the explosive field should grant more ehp/s vs dragonflies. But yes if you want to keep the explosive field, then using apply rig would be better even more, using a pith c-type invul instead of the x-type explosive allows to have two apply rigs. I could not find the stats of the dragonflies/mantis, is there the full stats ? I guess I could extract them from the data files but it takes time. with > **this fit** > > ``` > [Cerberus, *Burner Guristas] > Damage Control II > Ballistic Control System II > Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System > Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System > > Pith X-Type Large Shield Booster > Pithum C-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field > Republic Fleet Large Cap Battery > Republic Fleet Target Painter > Stasis Webifier II > > Rapid Light Missile Launcher II > Rapid Light Missile Launcher II > Rapid Light Missile Launcher II > Rapid Light Missile Launcher II > Rapid Light Missile Launcher II > Rapid Light Missile Launcher II > > Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst II > Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst II > > Acolyte II x3 > > Mjolnir Precision Light Missile x120 > > ``` I have 49/90/85/75 resists, 115 hp/s, +51% apply with rigs(25% with the first rigor and 21 with the second), +41% apply with painter while with your fit you have +41% with the first and +35.7 with the second(you thus gain a +11% apply) ---
**Author:** ![Chainsaw\_Plankton](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chainsaw_plankton/32/256180_2.png) [@Chainsaw\_Plankton](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chainsaw_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2018, 8:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/burner-mission-ship-advice-to-solo-them-including-fittings/9580/282 "2018-08-07T20:07:48Z")
yea the 18 fighters just take too long to chew through, and the length opens up a lot of room for error. Best I did was ~11 mins with the rail vigilant, not really sure what you could do better other than go shiny on the damage mods, but also I haven’t looked at it in a long time. If CCP dropped the last 2 sets of fighters I think it would probably be worth running. Might need a bounty bump to be fully competitive, but even so with just the max reward and LP payout it could be okay. Also if you think you are having a bad run you can align out finish the current wave and then and warp off before the next wave spawns and points/scrams you. ---
**Author:** ![Sylvia\_Kildare](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sylvia_kildare/32/416948_2.png) [@Sylvia\_Kildare](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sylvia_Kildare)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2018, 2:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/burner-mission-ship-advice-to-solo-them-including-fittings/9580/283 "2018-08-08T02:10:31Z")
> [@Qberty\_Thoth](#): > > Now that mutaplasmids are available I wonder if I can shorten the mission duration with a 18km web on the mantises. > [@Ploing](#): > > maybe think about a fed nav web with oh. Fed Navy web with overheat gets you up from 14km to 18km, might be just what Qberty\_Thoth needs for that situation. I’ve been using two of them on my Sacrilege for Abyssal tier 3s and overheating as needed for those extra 4 kms and change. Mutaplasmids could be an option as well, but… there’s one other thing: the new web range implants from a couple events ago. There’s 3%, 5%, and 7% variants. Inquest ‘Eros’ Stasis Webifier MR-80x (replace x with 3 or 5 or 7)… the 7%s tend to be mega-expensive in both Amarr and Jita but the 5%s aren’t too bad and if paired with faction and/or abyssal webs, can give you a bit extra range oomph. ---
**Author:** ![Qberty\_Thoth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/qberty_thoth/32/172149_2.png) [@Qberty\_Thoth](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Qberty_Thoth)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2018, 8:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/burner-mission-ship-advice-to-solo-them-including-fittings/9580/284 "2018-08-08T08:04:34Z")
I ran some more tests on SiSi based on your advices, and apparently you just need the pith x-type large shield booster, a x-type hardener of EM or Explosive resist depending on the wave and the republic fleet large cap booster combo to indeed tank this mission through, I also ran some more tests with the RLMLs and missiles and the best damage to deal is EM additionally the faction light missile is a downgrade from the precision missile as it puts up less damage. And finally with 2 T2 rigors on the rig slots I can finally oneshot the mantises with the aid of 2 target painters and 4 caldari ballistic control systems on the lower slots. All of this results in a decrease of 10 minutes to the time needed to do this mission. So I’m down to 25 minutes. But at least compared to the vigilant fit it’s more forgivable and I can relax between 2 burners while doing this mission. I don’t think we can do better unless we can somehow destroy 2 dragonflies with one load of RLML. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2018, 8:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/burner-mission-ship-advice-to-solo-them-including-fittings/9580/285 "2018-08-08T08:59:44Z")
if I had the stats I could. did you try with 2 rigors + 2 painters+ fury missiles ? can you give me the damage numbers per salve on the shield of the rat with the fury/faction/precision with 1/2 painters active on the rigor rig ? I will try it at the same time. ---
**Author:** ![Ploing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ploing/32/466885_2.png) [@Ploing](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ploing)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2018, 9:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/burner-mission-ship-advice-to-solo-them-including-fittings/9580/286 "2018-08-08T09:46:36Z")
10 minutes time spared are not bad. 😃 maybe 2 things you can try on sisi after andersons advice. 1. calefaction rig. 2. cal navy or gurista launcher. gives you more clips and is maybe worth with faction missiles. but that would be an expensive upgrade. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2018, 9:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/burner-mission-ship-advice-to-solo-them-including-fittings/9580/287 "2018-08-08T09:50:22Z")
ok I am trying to aply a bit dammage per salve with precision mjolnir. p=rf target painter, w = 60% web naked : 301 1p : 365 2p : 434 1w : 503 1w1p : 582 2w : 582 max shown salvo damage : 895 from this I guess with web+ paint I reach their evasion, thus em res = 35% I did less dmg with other missiles with 2\*paint ow my “naked” apply is 51.72%. according to [https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Missile\_damage](https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Missile_damage) the DRF is 0.561 so the real apply to evasion ratio is 0.31 my precisions have 306m/s and 12m , so precision= 306/12 and evasion = 82.6 the rats orbit at 1200 m/s so their sig is 14.5m [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/burner-mission-ship-advice-to-solo-them-including-fittings/9580.md?page=13) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/burner-mission-ship-advice-to-solo-them-including-fittings/9580.md?page=15)