# Burner Mission - Ship advice to solo them including fittings

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**Created:** [July 11, 2017, 5:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/burner-mission-ship-advice-to-solo-them-including-fittings/9580 "2017-07-11T05:57:48Z")\
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**Post date:** [April 6, 2018, 4:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/burner-mission-ship-advice-to-solo-them-including-fittings/9580/125 "2018-04-06T16:50:10Z")

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I tried the cerb on the blood base and here’s a link to my fit, I think it should still be current. That said I didn’t like it much, and prefer the gila, and I still need to play around with the new c3-x damage mod. I imagine a similar onyx fit would also work, there’s an onyx fit in the link but it’s an XL-ASB fit.

> [@Burner Mission - Ship advice to solo them including fittings](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/burner-mission-ship-advice-to-solo-them-including-fittings/9580/87):
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> I tried a Cerberus fit from From this post: [Blood Base Burner escorts take all 20 from RHML, right?](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/blood-base-burner-escorts-take-all-20-from-rhml-right/52864/18) and it also seems pretty safe. first clip took down one sent, needed a reload for the second and heated the invlun + EM hardeners to keep up with damage, and then used the rest of the clip + reload to fury for the ashimmu. Could probably shave off a little time with better reload awareness 5:28 kill time first and last combat logs: 04:51:43 Combat Burner Sentinel misses you complete…

I can’t see why the cerb wouldn’t work for the talos base, has the right resists and should have plenty of damage, and probably easy to get cap stable with a battery. Just a bit slow, heated it goes as fast as the vagabond does normally. No idea if it would be better to fit RLML or HAMs. If you can kill in one clip with RLML that’s fine as you can just reload while flying to the next one. If not might want hams for a bit more sustained damage.

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**Post date:** [April 7, 2018, 3:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/burner-mission-ship-advice-to-solo-them-including-fittings/9580/126 "2018-04-07T15:11:22Z")

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Hello,  
I got into burner a few months ago and I’m glad to say I can finally clear almost all of them thanks to your marvelous guide !

But I have a problem with this one :

> [@Jori\_McKie](#):
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> Burner Dramiel Angel Agent – Daredevil (Unified Daredevil)

I just lost 3 daredevil to it and I have mastery IV with daredevils : I just can’t break the dramiel shield tank while my own tank is not sustainable.

My first try I ran out of booster : rip all my shiny modules, second try I overheated too much my hardeners and one got destroyed still almost all modules were saved so I tried a last time and died again because of boosters.  
I warp in , keep at range @1500m , activate everything and OH hardeners/rep when the nasty armour sound ring but it just doesn’t work : his tank is way to strong. My best try was simply press approach and got him to 50% shield …

I don’t know what I’m doing wrong, does anyone maybe have an alternate fit with blasters or autocannon for this one ? I know there’s a succubus fit but I have zero skill in laser atm

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**Post date:** [April 7, 2018, 4:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/burner-mission-ship-advice-to-solo-them-including-fittings/9580/127 "2018-04-07T16:17:30Z")

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are the frigskills @ V ? did u use a 60 % web? overheated guns? if u are using the unified version it helps to swap the em hardener for a second explosive.

because of the speed and small sig, other ships than daredevil and succubus dont work well.

maybe take some tests on singularity to feel more comfortable.

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**Post date:** [April 7, 2018, 5:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/burner-mission-ship-advice-to-solo-them-including-fittings/9580/128 "2018-04-07T17:12:04Z")

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> [@Ploing](#):
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> it helps to swap the em hardener for a second explosive.

IIRC the dramiel deals explosive/em damage so it’s better to have em+explosive

You NEED the frig skill V to get the most of the webifier.  
ALSO I don’t know what fit you use, but the dramiel was buffed in previous patch. you will need rep booster+ double OH hardeners to tank him ; also remember to spread your hardeners so they heat less.

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**Post date:** [April 7, 2018, 6:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/burner-mission-ship-advice-to-solo-them-including-fittings/9580/129 "2018-04-07T18:30:07Z")

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i swapped it because of the 50% base em resistance. but i used it long time ago because i preffer the succubus.

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**Post date:** [April 7, 2018, 6:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/burner-mission-ship-advice-to-solo-them-including-fittings/9580/130 "2018-04-07T18:30:44Z")

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> [@Anderson\_Geten](#):
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> IIRC the dramiel deals explosive/em damage so it’s better to have em+explosive

I always used double explosive, I tried with exp/em once and didn’t really notice a difference.

Now I either use the succubus for permatank, or a 3 magstab shield buffer DD that just straight up wins the DPS race, but I wouldn’t recommend that unless your skills are near max.

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**Post date:** [April 7, 2018, 7:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/burner-mission-ship-advice-to-solo-them-including-fittings/9580/131 "2018-04-07T19:51:52Z")

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I also have an almost capstable fit, using a nos and cap battery. It’s capstable if I manage armor rep, but it’s anyhow good enough to activate all module, KaR 1500 and come back 40s later.

I think the shield buffer fit would do better though, cause 3 magstabs \> 2 !!

actually the damage are explo\>em\> kin [http://games.chruker.dk/eve\_online/item.php?type\_id=34141](http://games.chruker.dk/eve_online/item.php?type_id=34141)

I overload the explosive hardener, thus the highest damage becomes em ; I put em hardener then explo rig II instead of nanobot T1, making me take same kinetic and explo damage. Total 36.5 dps taken, healed by a corpum a-type armor rep.

> **a fit with a nano plating**
>
> ```
> [Daredevil, anaemic angel]
> Imperial Navy Adaptive Nano Plating
> Corpii A-Type Small Armor Repairer
> Corpus X-Type Armor Explosive Hardener
> Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
> 
> Stasis Webifier II
> Republic Fleet Small Cap Battery
> Stasis Webifier II
> 
> Light Neutron Blaster II
> Dark Blood Small Energy Nosferatu
> Light Neutron Blaster II
> 
> Small Anti-Explosive Pump II
> Small Auxiliary Nano Pump II
> Small Anti-EM Pump II
> 
> Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S x2740
> 
> ```

this fit requires to OL the hardener, the guns, and maybe the rep.  
Hot, it depletes in more than 2 min.

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**Post date:** [April 7, 2018, 8:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/burner-mission-ship-advice-to-solo-them-including-fittings/9580/132 "2018-04-07T20:47:14Z")

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I lost 2 more daredevil and 1 hawk and managed to do it in less than one minute with this fit that cost 200~250m + damage booster II (Warp to pocket, then as fast as possible click all of those : (approach,Lock,Activate everything, overload everything))

[Daredevil, Burn All The Modules And Lose Structure]  
Core A-Type Armor Explosive Hardener  
Corpii A-Type Small Armor Repairer  
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II  
Reactive Armor Hardener

Small Capacitor Booster II  
Stasis Webifier II  
Stasis Webifier II

Light Neutron Blaster II  
Light Neutron Blaster II

Small Auxiliary Nano Pump I  
Small Auxiliary Nano Pump II  
Small Nanobot Accelerator I

Void S x2000  
Navy Cap Booster 400 x11

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**Post date:** [April 7, 2018, 9:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/burner-mission-ship-advice-to-solo-them-including-fittings/9580/133 "2018-04-07T21:15:00Z")

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the reactive takes time to act. Also it gives less armor vs multi-damage like the dramiel. and consume cap. use a nano plating instead.

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**Post date:** [April 7, 2018, 10:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/burner-mission-ship-advice-to-solo-them-including-fittings/9580/135 "2018-04-07T22:58:19Z")

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an viable option is also a nos and battery fit. less stress and the cap holds 1:43 @ all V  
[Daredevil, Angel nos]  
Corpii A-Type Small Armor Repairer  
Core B-Type Armor Explosive Hardener  
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer  
Core B-Type Armor Explosive Hardener

Stasis Webifier II  
Republic Fleet Small Cap Battery  
Stasis Webifier II

Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S  
Dark Blood Small Energy Nosferatu  
Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S

Small Auxiliary Nano Pump II  
Small Auxiliary Nano Pump I  
Small Nanobot Accelerator I

but there are a ton off losses out there

> **[Burner Dramiel | Ship](https://zkillboard.com/ship/34141/)**
>
> Burner Dramiel: 55 ships destroyed and 0 ships lost.

i personally like the guy who lost 5 daredevils in a row at the same burner 😄

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**Post date:** [April 7, 2018, 11:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/burner-mission-ship-advice-to-solo-them-including-fittings/9580/136 "2018-04-07T23:46:02Z")

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> [@Ploing](#):
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> i personally like the guy who lost 5 daredevils in a row at the same burner

I lost 2 in a row when I was having some connection problems, had enough sense to BM’d the wrecks and quit the mission though.

> [@Anderson\_Geten](#):
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> the reactive takes time to act. Also it gives less armor vs multi-damage like the dramiel. and consume cap. use a nano plating instead

yep an adaptive/explosive/EM hardener are all a better choice imo, they all use less cap and tank about the same.

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**Post date:** [April 8, 2018, 12:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/burner-mission-ship-advice-to-solo-them-including-fittings/9580/137 "2018-04-08T00:17:08Z")

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> [@Chainsaw\_Plankton](#):
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> …had enough sense to BM’d the wrecks and quit the mission though.

thats what the most forget about.

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**Post date:** [April 8, 2018, 12:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/burner-mission-ship-advice-to-solo-them-including-fittings/9580/138 "2018-04-08T00:25:52Z")

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> [@Ploing](#):
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> an viable option is also a nos and battery fit.

that’s the fit I linked just a bit before (with nano plate)

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**Post date:** [April 8, 2018, 3:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/burner-mission-ship-advice-to-solo-them-including-fittings/9580/139 "2018-04-08T03:25:43Z")

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sorry haven´t seen that.

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> [@Anderson\_Geten](#):
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> base serpentis is the longest of the missions (bar base guristas maybe)
> 
> A good chunk of time is used to make the 180+180+120 = 480 km
> 
> now compare the raw speed of hacs.
> 
> vaga 295
> 
> munin 250
> 
> deimos 230
> 
> cerberus 220
> 
> zealot 210
> 
> eagle 202
> 
> sacrilege 200
> 
> ishtar 175

A fit that often gets forgotten for the Base Serpentis is a 100mn Vexor Navy Issue. It’s cap stable with the AB and shield booster running and goes over 1600 m/s, so covers the distance fairly quickly. It primarily relies on speed and sig tanking, but the shield booster can handle quite a number of hits. The only downside to it is that you can’t slow down to salvage the wrecks and have to get them at the end of the mission.

I started flying this fit back when I didn’t have the skills for a HAC yet, but have come to like it so much that it hasn’t really been a priority to upgrade to a HAC. I think this is the only burner mission in which I’ve never lost a ship.

[Vexor Navy Issue, Cap Stable Burner Talos]

Damage Control II  
Drone Damage Amplifier II  
Drone Damage Amplifier II  
Capacitor Flux Coil II  
Capacitor Flux Coil II  
Capacitor Flux Coil II

Gist X-Type 100MN Afterburner  
Gist C-Type Large Shield Booster  
Pith X-Type Kinetic Deflection Field  
Pith X-Type Thermal Dissipation Field

150mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S  
150mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S  
[Empty High slot]  
[Empty High slot]

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II  
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II  
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I

Berserker II x5  
Berserker II x3

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well 500 km with 2700m/s = 185min, 1700m/s = 295 s=\>+110s just for moving.

I think ishtar with 50mn has better defenses,

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Hey all -

Sorry if this was discussed already -

What’s the viability of the Orthrus from Anize’s guide on the Blood Base burner with the March 2018 balance changes (-100 PG). Even off-lining the tractor beam, I can’t put 2 of the 5 launchers on-line.

For those of you using this ship + fit, what route did you choose to go?

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**Post date:** [April 9, 2018, 12:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/burner-mission-ship-advice-to-solo-them-including-fittings/9580/143 "2018-04-09T00:02:49Z")

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made 2 vids today because some questions are always the same.

first is a capstable succubus vs the angel dram.

second the shieldtanked enyo vs the gurista worm. capstable with mwd off.

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**Post date:** [April 9, 2018, 3:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/burner-mission-ship-advice-to-solo-them-including-fittings/9580/144 "2018-04-09T15:16:22Z")

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awesome !

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**Post date:** [April 12, 2018, 4:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/burner-mission-ship-advice-to-solo-them-including-fittings/9580/145 "2018-04-12T16:12:40Z")

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Looks like the burner jaguar got made faster, now you cant semi skill it anymore as its logi does not catch up and always ends up around 25-31 km away from you. Need good range targeting + mjolin + frig 5 etc etc to kill ☹

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